johnson has been protecting civil liberties with his running mate since the 1980s...

/racially cool too

Good for Johnson. Keeping him out of most of the debates, but allowing in Michele "Waterboards is rather uncomfortable" Bachmann was ridiculous.

/Ok, I admit I smiled when she dinged Gingrich in that one debate, but I would have still preferred Gary to be there.

RON PAUL is pretty high up there.

Ron Paul wants to expand your civil liberties, as long as you're a straight white male who earns over $250,000.

Otherwise, not so much.

eddyatwork: RON PAUL is pretty high up there.

He scored higher than Obama.

Romney scored zero.

Was this calculated before or after the signing of the NDAA?

And so RON PAUL and Hitlerbongo... score almost exactly the same, just with slightly different focuses.

The deep rift in the republican party is over religious fundamentalism, with a second rift over spending.

The Libertarian Party was formed by people walking out of the party after Nixon was nominated. He was the first republican to start really targeting the fundies with messages along the lines that American can only return to greatness with religious faith,etc. He was also the first republican to embrace big spending for social agendas (EPA, Wage and Price Controls, War on Drugs, etc).

So the nomination of Nixon was a turning point for the Republicans, away from personal liberties and towards more repressive social policies. Prior to that, they were the activist party for civil liberties. (Yes, I had to look these up: Civil Rights Act of 1866, 1871, 1875, 1957, 1960, until 1964 when Kennedy stole their thunder and fought his own party to get passage of previously defeated Republican proposals)

Nixon has a lot to answer for.

No other candidate from any party has more private and public executive experience doing exactly what he promised to do than him.

/I just wish he wasn't so awful at handling the media :(

Weaver95: when I think of 'protecting my liberty' I have to say that the GOP doesn't exactly leap to mind.

And Obama signing the NDAA is no big deal?

jbuist: Huh. The ACLU gave Ron Paul a rather favorable rating.

That's weird. Seems like I can't get through a Fark thread on him without somebody saying the dude wants to roll us back to the days of slavery. You'd think if there was any merit to that the ACLU would take it into consideration.

The ACLU isn't concerned with economic issues.

The fact that Ron Paul didn't get the lowest score makes this entire thing void.

The man ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT. How does that POSSIBLY not earn you the worst "liberty score" of all farking time?!!?!

Nobodyn0se: The fact that Ron Paul didn't get the lowest score makes this entire thing void.

The man ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT. How does that POSSIBLY not earn you the worst "liberty score" of all farking time?!!?!

I don't think they consider the result of his actions. "States' Rights" sounds all freedomy, but I would not want to be a "faggy-looking wetback" in Alabama if Rep. Paul had his way.

Hydra: jbuist: That's weird. Seems like I can't get through a Fark thread on him without somebody saying the dude wants to roll us back to the days of slavery. You'd think if there was any merit to that the ACLU would take it into consideration.

That's because 75% of Farkers here are rabid progressives who are ironically mirror images of the partisan Republicans they rail against so much - close-minded and irrationally afraid of their intellectual opposition. They have an ego about themselves that would make Lenin look humble. It's hard to have a conversation with them while they throw around "DERP!" insults at anyone who disagrees with them.

That said, there is a sizeable minority of Fark progressives who don't share the hubris of their pissant counterparts and are quite interesting to talk to - you just have to wade through the others to find them.

Word.

/This

//Right on.

///Well said.

I keep forgetting that some guy called Gary Johnson is running.

jbuist: Huh. The ACLU gave Ron Paul a rather favorable rating.

That's weird. Seems like I can't get through a Fark thread on him without somebody saying the dude wants to roll us back to the days of slavery. You'd think if there was any merit to that the ACLU would take it into consideration.

Huh, it's almost like the ACLU might have missed some things, like wanting to repeal the Civil Rights Act, and all the writing for racist publications. Maybe they are run by people who are fallible.

Oh, how cute, the Jerry Sandusky Foundation wants to weigh in on American politics, I'll make sure I take them seriously.

the ACLU is also the organization that defends the murder of infants without recourse to the courts as "reproductive freedom". something to keep in mind.

//went to their website when Kelo v. New London came down. Not a word was said about it. weird.

jbuist: Huh. The ACLU gave Ron Paul a rather favorable rating.

That's weird. Seems like I can't get through a Fark thread on him without somebody saying the dude wants to roll us back to the days of slavery. You'd think if there was any merit to that the ACLU would take it into consideration.

Fark political threads doesn't have merit to much of anything in the outside world. There are guys here saying Ron is an "authoritarian." It's not hard to see who's basing who's opinion on actual reality.

This will only hurt Johnson. Considering what Republicans think about the ACLU.

Because defending Civil Liberties is wrong or something.

Deftoons: There are guys here saying Ron is an "authoritarian." It's not hard to see who's basing who's opinion on actual reality.

Nobodyn0se:

The man ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE INCORPORATION CLAUSE OF THE 14th AMENDMENT. How does that POSSIBLY not earn you the worst "liberty score" of all farking time?!!?!

Yes, it is easy to see, isn't it?

CitizensUnited: the ACLU is also the organization that defends the murder of infants without recourse to the courts as "reproductive freedom". something to keep in mind.

Off to the killfile with you.

Gotta love the ACLU. To them, a candidate scores higher on the Civil Liberties scale if he thinks it's ok for women to murder their children.

DrPainMD: Gotta love the ACLU. To them, a candidate scores higher on the Civil Liberties scale if he thinks it's ok for women to murder their children.

You too.

themindiswatching: Sadly, whoever the GOP either party puts up will get at least 40% of the vote, guaranteed.

FTFY; your bias was beginning to show...

14GOP88

cubic_spleen: 14GOP88

Oh look...a neo nazi!

Giltric: cubic_spleen: 14GOP88

Oh look...a neo nazi!

Hey; I just call 'em like I see 'em.

cubic_spleen: Giltric: cubic_spleen: 14GOP88

Oh look...a neo nazi!

Hey; I just call 'em like I see 'em.

Its odd how evil knows its own like that...if you know what I mean.

Yeah, when I think constitutional defender I think of all the things on the list that they are grading them on.

Way to go ACLU, keep telling democrats not to vote for republicans.

I alone am best: Yeah, when I think constitutional defender I think of all the things on the list that they are grading them on.

Way to go ACLU, keep telling democrats not to vote for republicans.

Gary Johnson and Ron Paul aren't Republicans?

Giltric: cubic_spleen: Giltric: cubic_spleen: 14GOP88

Oh look...a neo nazi!

Hey; I just call 'em like I see 'em.

Its odd how evil knows its own like that...if you know what I mean.

NO U!!!