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2012-01-03 12:40:50 AM
I'm going to read 0 fat on a label, then get mad that I'm not getting the vodka with chunks of fat on it to chew on in between drinks.
 
2012-01-03 12:43:05 AM
www.godhaven.org.uk

That's all I need to know
 
2012-01-03 12:44:13 AM
But what if I combine it with orange juice? Orange juice is a breakfast food therefore adding vodka to it means I've just had breakfast or something.
 
2012-01-03 12:44:27 AM
Actually, for people with allergies and food intolerances (such as myself) this would make drinking a whole lot easier. Can we go ahead with this one please?
 
2012-01-03 12:45:50 AM
I'd also like to see Big Beer manufacturers fess up to all the preservatives and colorings they put in their beer.
 
2012-01-03 12:47:52 AM
I am fully aware that my glass of moscato d'asti contains zero nutritional value.

I would still like to see what is in it, though.
 
2012-01-03 12:48:14 AM
I struggle to see the problem with this. I love beer and I drink copious amounts of it. I'd like to know how much less food I should consume to maintain a world-class supermodel figure.
 
2012-01-03 12:51:44 AM

imprimere: RagnarD: [guinnessposter.jpg]

That's all I need to know

Oooh, sorry. We were looking for "That's all you had to say!".

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Well played. Very well played.
 
2012-01-03 12:53:51 AM
It probably has been said some way or another.

No on Monday, No on Tuesday, No on Wednesday, NO twice on Thursday, No Three Times on Friday, No Four Times on Saturday, & give me some water on Sunday.
 
2012-01-03 12:56:25 AM
Been tried before (new window). RIP Bert Grant . . .

/derpy source is derpy
 
2012-01-03 12:59:48 AM
Hmm, one a day for women, two for men, but how many for toddlers? The step-kid can handle three of those little airport bottles of Goldschlager before passing out cold. He'll usually out for at least 3 hours, which is more than enough time for the old lady and I to bang one out then get up to the 7/11 and back for some smokes.
 
2012-01-03 01:07:12 AM
Just so long as bottled water still informs me that it contains zero calories. I wouldn't want to get confused about water, after all.
 
2012-01-03 01:12:39 AM
I'd like a label. What kind of ignorant jackass would be against information?
 
2012-01-03 01:12:59 AM
Meh. 10 inch tall glass, long islands for $4 at the Mill Cue Club on Mill st. in downtown Tempe.
More than 4 and you won't remember the train/bus home.
Oh, stop by the 5 guy's across the street for a burger. Or the Hooters down the road for shrimpies.
Or Bison Witches for a sammich-excellent food (AND they have Kilt Lifter on tap!!)
 
2012-01-03 01:15:08 AM
Bud Light Platinum!

Now with more... platinum?
 
2012-01-03 01:17:01 AM

bigdanc: I'd say you're twixt 180 and 200 cals there. A shot of tequila is about 90 cals


I guess you're right. Still, it doesn't seem like you can get a "hard liquor belly" the way one does with beer.

I probably got that impression because my morning commute involves stepping over men passed out on the sidewalk, surrounded by bottles of Royal Gate vodka. Those people just aren't fat.
 
2012-01-03 01:25:26 AM
hornsby's is 180 calories a bottle
 
2012-01-03 01:26:29 AM

Smackledorfer: I'd like a label. What kind of ignorant jackass would be against information?


We've seen a concentrated anti-intellectualist movement over the past 20 years. I'd answer your question with "most Americans."
 
2012-01-03 01:27:06 AM
I wouldn't mind calorie facts on alcohol. For the longest time I had no idea a shot of 80 proof vodka was ~100 calories... there went my vodka, water and multivitamin diet :(
 
2012-01-03 01:29:47 AM

joe714: Ironically, the current ATF policy is you cannot put a nutritional label, including calorie information, on alcoholic products because they don't want to imply to consumers that alcohol has any nutritional content. The only exception is when you're specifically saying it's less calories than some other drink (usually your own non-lite beer.)

Held, caloric and carbohydrate representations made without qualification in the labeling and advertising of malt beverages are considered to be misleading and contrary to the provisions of 27 CFR 7.29(e) and 7.54(e), since they create the impression that the product has value as a dietary aid.

And there has been at least one case where they required a brewer to remove the nutritional label from their product.


Bizarre. Meanwhile coke must line its bottles with zeros
 
2012-01-03 01:41:07 AM

Arbitrator: Smackledorfer: I'd like a label. What kind of ignorant jackass would be against information?

We've seen a concentrated anti-intellectualist movement over the past 20 years. I'd answer your question with "most Americans."


Knowing the number of calories in a Bud-Light and bieng able to multiply that figure by the number of Bud-Lights consumed, for a total caloric intake of one Bud-Light-binge, is a fairly low bar to set for what might pass as intellectualism.
 
2012-01-03 01:47:02 AM

TomD9938: Knowing the number of calories in a Bud-Light and bieng able to multiply that figure by the number of Bud-Lights consumed, for a total caloric intake of one Bud-Light-binge, is a fairly low bar to set for what might pass as intellectualism.is an unrealistically high bar for most Americans


ftfy
 
2012-01-03 01:48:14 AM
FTFA: Would booze nutrition labels make you drink smarter?

Hey stupid, nobody is going to read a f*cking nutrition label if they want to get drunk.
 
2012-01-03 01:58:57 AM

MrEricSir: bigdanc: I'd say you're twixt 180 and 200 cals there. A shot of tequila is about 90 cals

I guess you're right. Still, it doesn't seem like you can get a "hard liquor belly" the way one does with beer.

I probably got that impression because my morning commute involves stepping over men passed out on the sidewalk, surrounded by bottles of Royal Gate vodka. Those people just aren't fat.


That's because different forms of calories are processed in different ways. Barely any of the calories in hard liquor, (about 5% according to the googles) can be broken down into usable fuel for your body. It's broken down by your liver and pissed out as waste. With beer, on the other hand, you're picking up the residual carbs and sugars that distilled liquor doesn't have.

Also, that's probably why the FDA currently bans such labels. They don't want people getting the impression that calories from alcohol will do jack shiat for them. Because generally, they won't. A real martini (as in gin, vermouth, olive, no syrups, juices or whatever other crap), though containing around 250 calories, will have the approximate impact on your gut of an olive. Because that's the only thing in there your body can really break down as fuel.

Basically, alcohol gets turned into one substance by the liver, which is released into the bloodstream, and has priority in metabolizing. So if you drink a bunch, you won't burn other fuels like fat, protein or carbs very well. You'll still burn them, your body does still need to move, but not at all that high a rate. You're suppressing fat burning, which can be an issue in packing on the pounds, but you're not adding anything significant with a glass of your favorite tipple.
 
2012-01-03 02:04:42 AM

dahmers love zombie: Mrs. Love Zombie and I used to frequent a bar back in college. The day bartender would not let us pay for drinks. He was so lonely there most of the time that he was happy for the company. He invented a drink that we dubbed the Hollering Orgasm (his name was Holler). It consisted of vodka, Kahlua, Baileys, Amaretto, Frangelico, and cream. We would have, oh, about five of those each, then go back to the dorms and schtup our little brains out for hours. Which was a good thing, since I figure each of those babies was around 800 calories.

/drunk story bro


How did your wife feel about you schtupping with the bartender?
 
2012-01-03 02:05:35 AM
Ingredients: malted yak spit
 
2012-01-03 02:16:33 AM
"Waldrop said, the alcohol label should include safe consumption levels: one drink a day for women, two a day for men"

Get the fark away from statistics idjut

Ive met many women that can drink more than me (some whom were smaller than me) Ive met many men that cant smell a drink without being and idiot.

Sexist rules are stupid

// 183cm, 100Kg, and I can drink..... a lot
/ 6'1" 220lm for the metric challenged
// well aware that if I pick up a drink, Im probably not worried about my diet
/ "no sugar added" still cracks me up on US toothpastes
 
2012-01-03 02:19:29 AM

Slartibartfaster: 220lm


"lb" sorry, pretty sure the Okanagan Chardonnay I just drank had too many calories
 
2012-01-03 02:26:38 AM

bongo98902: Been tried before (new window). RIP Bert Grant . . .

/derpy source is derpy


Came here to say this. Bert Grant FTW
 
2012-01-03 02:30:57 AM

TomD9938: The world needs more svelte alcoholics.


When I was a useless alkie I was quite svelte due to the fact that I didn't eat much: my trips to the supermarket consisted of a trip through the liqour department with a short detour through the chips aisle and wherever the hell they kept the ramen noodles. Seven sober years later, I gained 65 pounds. (I gained some of that weight quitting smoking, but still)
 
2012-01-03 02:41:26 AM

ultraholland: Pocket Ninja: I'm trying to imagine my response if someone with whom I was sharing drinks declined one because of caloric content.

This can be avoided by drinking exclusively MGD 64.


The only thing that can be avoided with MGD 64 is getting drunk.
 
2012-01-03 03:34:58 AM

make me some tea: I would actually like to know how many calories and grams of fat are in a shot of Bailey's. Not that I drink much of it, but still.


THIS.
 
2012-01-03 04:26:13 AM

cptjeff: ed in different ways. Barely any of the calories in hard liquor, (about 5% according to the googles) can be broken down into usable fuel for your body. It's broken down by your liver and pissed out as waste. With beer, on the other hand, you're picking up the residual carbs and sugars that distilled liquor doesn't have.

Also, that's probably why the FDA currently bans such labels. They don't want people getting the impression that calories from alcohol will do jack shiat for them. Because generally, they won't. A real martini (as in gin, vermouth, olive, no syrups, juices or whatever other crap), though containing around 250 calories, will have the approximate impact on your gut of an olive. Because that's the only thing in there your body can really break down as fuel.

Basically, alcohol gets turned into one substance by the liver, which is released into the bloodstream, and has priority in metabolizing. So if you drink a bunch, you won't burn other fuels like fat, protein or carbs very well. You'll still burn them, your body does still need to mov


That's perfectly logical. If "Calories" as we traditionally know them is a poor indicator of food properties then a new measure that is useful should replace it. "It has 600 kcal, but your body is only to feel about 50 of them" then put "50 bazoongas" on the label.

FDA regulates liquor/beer/wine for rat parts, disease, etc right? Don't see the fundamental distinction between food and food. Just do it.
 
2012-01-03 05:44:52 AM
images.watoday.com.auTypical label in Australia
 
2012-01-03 06:14:31 AM
Fat: 9 Calories/gram
Protein: 4 Calories/gram
Carbohydrates: 4 Calories/gram
Alcohol: 7 Calories/gram

There you go.
 
2012-01-03 07:34:36 AM
I would be happy with a list of ingredients... I mean, how can I be sure my drink has been hand crafted by tibetan monks, as opposed to crafted by a guy with a tote of grain alcohol and a pail of caramel color.
 
2012-01-03 08:01:39 AM

Snarfangel: I would rather have more information than less. If beer is making me fat, I might switch to vodka.

Seriously, though, I'm okay with nutrition labels on everything that can be consumed (though it would be a waste for bottled water). It won't be enough to put people off their favorite beverage, but it might help moderate some people's consumption.

And who knows, I may get beer...with electrolytes!


They're already on every bottle of water I've every seen. Tbh I have no idea how alcohol is exempt
 
2012-01-03 08:09:14 AM

Doctor Jan Itor: Fat: 9 Calories/gram
Protein: 4 Calories/gram
Carbohydrates: 4 Calories/gram
Alcohol: 7 Calories/gram

There you go.


You could figure out how many calories are in the drink as a result of alcohol, but you don't know what the composition of the rest of the drink is.
 
2012-01-03 08:15:28 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: You could figure out how many calories are in the drink as a result of alcohol, but you don't know what the composition of the rest of the drink is.


Exactly. How much sugar do they put in peach vodka or any flavored alcohol? Also I like the servings per bottle thing the Australian label had. Why would it be so terrible to have labels for alcohol again?
 
2012-01-03 08:19:11 AM
I'm going to have to go against the tide on this one -- at least in some cases.

A woman came up to me at work yesterday with one of those margarita things that looks like a Capri-Sun only twice as big; you just throw it in a freezer until ready to get blotto. She wanted to know what kind of alcohol was in it and how much.

The "drink" had no nutrition information label, or list of ingredients. I had to read it twice to glean out the information that it didn't use rum, but a malt beverage-based alcohol; and given that, I would assume a froot-flavored additive instead of fruit juice. No mention of how much alcohol.

Sounds about as appealing as a wine cooler (remember those)?
 
2012-01-03 08:32:21 AM
I'm okay with this. I know a few girls who won't eat a thing on Fridays so they can go out and binge drink that night. I keep trying to tell them that even with their "normal consumption" (which is 5 Vodka/sugar-free redbulls with three shots of jager thrown in between 10pm and 1 am) that is only around 1200 so they could still eat 800 calories ahead of time which is slightly healthier then binge drinking on an empty stomach. They all tell me I'm wrong and I'm not calculating the alcohol calories right (which I just double checked on the Internetz).

I know perfectly well alcohol contains empty calories which is why I've limited myself to one beer or wine a week in order to shed these last pounds that won't go away. I am missing my nightly wine break, but I am rediscovering my love of herbal teas so it isn't that bad.

/Though in two weeks my mom and I are having a "we behaved ourselves for the sake of our diet" wine night where all bets are off
 
2012-01-03 08:33:22 AM

Snarfangel: Seriously, though, I'm okay with nutrition labels on everything that can be consumed (though it would be a waste for bottled water).


Not necessarily... Some of that bottled "water" apparently contains more than just H2O... Bored, waiting in line at a movie theater once, I actually read the ingredients on the bottle of water I just paid an exorbitant amount for at the concession stand; one of the ingredients listed was salt! Well, no, actually it listed "sodium chloride", presumably in a clever attempt at tricking the average consumer who wouldn't realize that was actually table salt... But, seriously, what kind of assholes deliberately add salt to their bottled water?! It's not like it was some pure spring water and the salt was from natural mineral traces or something; this was the "filtered tapwater" kind of bottled water, and they had actually deliberately added the damn salt to it!

/Dasani, I believe it was...
 
2012-01-03 08:41:06 AM

A Terrible Human: Why would it be so terrible to have labels for alcohol again?


Yeah, I don't get it either. If you don't want to know, don't look. But anyone who does want to know shouldn't have to resort to a google search.
 
2012-01-03 08:41:10 AM
It's not so much beer that makes you fat. It's the beer and the large pizza, bag of cashews, and pork rinds you scarfed down while drinking.
 
2012-01-03 08:58:16 AM

CameraMonkey: /sorry Russian Imperial Stout I had an inkling you were around 10% ABV when I noticed my mouth was burning a bit due to the alcohol content.
//not that I minded as you were incredibly, INCREDIBLY tasty.


By Stone? If so, that *is* a tasty one.... And a few 22oz bottles of it will kick your butt :)
 
2012-01-03 10:17:21 AM
One could always use more reading material while imbibing alcohol, so sure, why not read about how bad it is to drink.
 
2012-01-03 10:25:25 AM
Hell, yes. Put the damn label on it so I know what I'm drinking. WTF would be wrong with a label? If you don't want to know, don't read it.

This is an oddball case, but I am taking care of a friend who has cancer. She can't eat any solid food, but she likes to have a beer or a drink. Knowing what beer provides the most nutrition or how many calories are in a shot of Blackmaker's root beer would be very helpful.
 
2012-01-03 10:39:39 AM

Gyrfalcon: dahmers love zombie: Mrs. Love Zombie and I used to frequent a bar back in college. The day bartender would not let us pay for drinks. He was so lonely there most of the time that he was happy for the company. He invented a drink that we dubbed the Hollering Orgasm (his name was Holler). It consisted of vodka, Kahlua, Baileys, Amaretto, Frangelico, and cream. We would have, oh, about five of those each, then go back to the dorms and schtup our little brains out for hours. Which was a good thing, since I figure each of those babies was around 800 calories.

/drunk story bro

And is that where the little love zombies came from?


Indeed, and they are born looking for GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINNNNN alcohol.

/btw, did you attempt to contact me through Ultrafark earlier?
 
2012-01-03 01:31:52 PM

dahmers love zombie: Mrs. Love Zombie and I used to frequent a bar back in college. The day bartender would not let us pay for drinks. He was so lonely there most of the time that he was happy for the company. He invented a drink that we dubbed the Hollering Orgasm (his name was Holler). It consisted of vodka, Kahlua, Baileys, Amaretto, Frangelico, and cream. We would have, oh, about five of those each, then go back to the dorms and schtup our little brains out for hours. Which was a good thing, since I figure each of those babies was around 800 calories.

/drunk story bro


That sounds delish.
 
2012-01-03 01:34:15 PM

wallywam1: A Fark Handle: The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: The person who invents calorie-free alcoholic beverages will become a multi-billionaire.

also a witch, as alcohol is basically sugar...

/weed is calorie-free
//until the munchies hit...

Alcohol is not sugar. Not even a little bit.


And alcohol itself has no nutritional value. Beer and, to a lesser extent, wine can make you gain weight, but not because of the alcohol. Alcohol has calories, but it burned off and doesn't go into the glycogen cycle to be stored as fat. So distilled spirits do not of themselves make a person gain weight. However, alcohol does cause foods eaten to be more readily converted to fat. So eating like a pig and then going out to booze it up is not a good idea. Alcoholics tend to eat less than non-drinkers and heavy drinkers impacts absorption of nutrients from the gut. This is why severe alcoholics are usually very thin.
 
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