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Robert Anderson, who played Darth Vader in the lightsaber duels in "Empire" and "Jedi" dies at 89. Will be digitally replaced by Hayden Christiansen at the funeral
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Sybarite
2012-01-02 01:11:54 PM
Ha! +1
ginandbacon
2012-01-02 01:15:30 PM
Well, was he 91 or 89? Or is that the joke?
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 01:21:34 PM
Sybarite
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Ha! +1
And a big old -1 to Lucas, for making the joke feasible in the first place.
LegacyDL
2012-01-02 01:21:49 PM
You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
mc_madness
2012-01-02 01:23:01 PM
This submission carries the putrid stench of nerds...
Fano
2012-01-02 01:23:03 PM
I guess Sith tricks are no match for Agent Smith
/RIP Mr. Anderson
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 01:23:04 PM
LegacyDL
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You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
Why Yes I Am A Wizard
2012-01-02 01:23:40 PM
Lucas is an asshole for having security remove the dying old man who just wanted to lick crumbs from his boots.
/RIP
Inigo
2012-01-02 01:25:19 PM
PizzaJedi81
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LegacyDL: You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
What do you mean, "again"?
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 01:26:33 PM
Inigo
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PizzaJedi81: LegacyDL: You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
What do you mean, "again"?
Well, not is Star Wars, obviously, but Life As A House (Which I enjoy.) and Shattered Glass (Which I have not seen.). I'm sure there's more.
Fano
2012-01-02 01:27:20 PM
PizzaJedi81
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Sybarite: Ha! +1
And a big old -1 to Lucas, for making the joke feasible in the first place.
Time to redo those scenes with Ray Park. That whole battle in Bespin was just so dull. I mean, breaking a window and throwing boxes? That's grandpa stuff.
GilRuiz1
2012-01-02 01:27:28 PM
BarbadoSlim
2012-01-02 01:27:32 PM
...the funeral to be digitally enhanced with more Jawas, Greedo shooting first.
Krieghund
2012-01-02 01:29:43 PM
Empire had the better ending. I mean, Luke gets his hand cut off, finds out Vader's his father, Han gets frozen and taken away by Boba Fett. It ends on such a down note. I mean, that's what life is, a series of down endings.
All Jedi had was a bunch of Muppets.
(It's too bad Kevin Smith just made the one movie, isn't it? Just like it would have been nice if Lucas made some Star Wars prequels, or the Wachowskis had made some sequels to the Matrix)
HawgWild
2012-01-02 01:29:50 PM
Great. Now he is more powerful than we can possibly imagine ...
rhondajeremy
2012-01-02 01:30:41 PM
I salute this dude in more ways than one! If he did Empire & Jedi, he was 57 & 59 respectively when he did those fight scenes...I only hope I am in that good condition at that age.
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 01:31:25 PM
Krieghund
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(It's too bad Kevin Smith just made the one movie, isn't it? Just like it would have been nice if Lucas made some Star Wars prequels, or the Wachowskis had made some sequels to the Matrix)
I actually greatly enjoy Chasing Amy, Dogma and Jersey Girl.
Duck_of_Doom
2012-01-02 01:31:37 PM
Doing those Empire fights at 59, nice. He deserves much respect for his art. This guy made swordfighting in movies look cool.
He went on to become one of the industry's most sought after stunt performers, fight choreographers and sword masters, working on movies including the James Bond adventures "From Russia With Love" and "Die Another Day"; fantasy "The Princess Bride"; Banderas action romps "The Mask of Zorro" and "The Legend of Zorro"; and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
HawgWild
2012-01-02 01:32:05 PM
BTW, Anderson is mentioned in this book. It's a good read:
Contrabulous Flabtraption
2012-01-02 01:32:43 PM
Impressive. Most impressive.
TravisBickle62
2012-01-02 01:33:26 PM
He did "The Princess Bride"?
I bow down to him ....
One Bad Apple
2012-01-02 01:33:46 PM
rhondajeremy
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I salute this dude in more ways than one! If he did Empire & Jedi, he was 57 & 59 respectively when he did those fight scenes...I only hope I am in that good condition at that age.
Not to mention wearing that helmet and the full Vader gimp suit. It wouldn't matter who was in it you can't even see your opponent.
FightDirector
2012-01-02 01:35:21 PM
Duck_of_Doom
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Doing those Empire fights at 59, nice. He deserves much respect for his art. This guy made swordfighting in movies look cool.
He went on to become one of the industry's most sought after stunt performers, fight choreographers and sword masters, working on movies including the James Bond adventures "From Russia With Love" and "Die Another Day"; fantasy "The Princess Bride"; Banderas action romps "The Mask of Zorro" and "The Legend of Zorro"; and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
Came to point this out. Bob Anderson was FAR more than just a Star Wars stunt guy. Wonderful guy to work with and talk to. So many amazing stories.
I have to wonder what he and Paddy Crean (Errol Flynn's stunt guy) are talking about right now...
/Probably biatching that there's too much CGI in fights anymore.
//If nobody else does it, I'll see about putting up a list of his best scenes after I get home from work this afternoon.
//then a 6-pack of Guinness in his memory.
urethra_franklin
2012-01-02 01:35:40 PM
I rarely log in, but I thought subby might like to know I just shot orzo out my nose from laughing.
laulaja
2012-01-02 01:36:18 PM
Appears
GilRuiz1
drew
that "VaderNo" item, for which
my
tnx. Rt-clickied for my private SF folder.
RIP
Mr Anderson
for his own work. Don't make 'em like they used to, do they?
Fano
2012-01-02 01:40:18 PM
HawgWild
:
BTW, Anderson is mentioned in this book. It's a good read:
[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 187x269]
+1 agreed
As an old fencer I heartily recommend it
Egalitarian
2012-01-02 01:43:04 PM
So who did the
dance scenes
for Vader?
hee hee
littlejunes
2012-01-02 01:43:52 PM
Bob Anderson's daughter is a good friend of my parents. He was a lovely man and was good enough to sign a picture of himself dressed in the Vader costume for me.
All my love goes out to his lovely family. The man was a little known legend, but a legend none the less.
GungFu
2012-01-02 01:47:51 PM
FightDirector
:
Duck_of_Doom: Doing those Empire fights at 59, nice. He deserves much respect for his art. This guy made swordfighting in movies look cool.
He went on to become one of the industry's most sought after stunt performers, fight choreographers and sword masters, working on movies including the James Bond adventures "From Russia With Love" and "Die Another Day"; fantasy "The Princess Bride"; Banderas action romps "The Mask of Zorro" and "The Legend of Zorro"; and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
Came to point this out. Bob Anderson was FAR more than just a Star Wars stunt guy. Wonderful guy to work with and talk to. So many amazing stories.
I have to wonder what he and Paddy Crean (Errol Flynn's stunt guy) are talking about right now...
/Probably biatching that there's too much CGI in fights anymore.
//If nobody else does it, I'll see about putting up a list of his best scenes after I get home from work this afternoon.
//then a 6-pack of Guinness in his memory.
Yeah, the name seemed familiar and I'm pretty sure he was the guy who appeared in those Behind The Scenes bits on The Fellowship of the Rings as well because he was tutoring some of the guys sword-work. I remember him working with that Legolas fella. Maybe it was for Pirates. Shiat, maybe both.
Anyway, it mentioned him working with Errol Flynn back in the day. So, wow, amazing resume.
Corydon
2012-01-02 01:53:15 PM
He went on to become one of the industry's most sought after stunt performers, fight choreographers and sword masters, working on movies including the James Bond adventures "From Russia With Love" and "Die Another Day"; fantasy "The Princess Bride"; Banderas action romps "The Mask of Zorro" and "The Legend of Zorro"; and the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-02 02:02:59 PM
Hayden Christiansen being inserted at the end of "Jedi" didn't bother me as much as that shiat-ass New Age music replacing the Ewok celebration song.
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 02:04:10 PM
Jake Havechek
:
Hayden Christiansen being inserted at the end of "Jedi" didn't bother me as much as that shiat-ass New Age music replacing the Ewok celebration song.
Yub yub!
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 02:10:07 PM
unyon
2012-01-02 02:16:02 PM
Inigo: You are using Bonetti's defense against me, uh?
Man In Black: I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.
Inigo: Naturally, you must expect me to attack with Capo Ferro.
Man In Black: Naturally, but I find that Thibault cancels out Capo Ferro, don't you? Jumps down.
Inigo: Unless the enemy has studied his Agrippa, Jumps after him. which I have! Pause. You are wonderful!
Man In Black: Thank you. I've worked hard to become so.
Inigo: I admit it, you are better than I am.
Man In Black: Then why are you smiling? Forces Inigo toward the cliff's edge.
Inigo: Because I know something you don't know.
Man In Black: And what is that?
Inigo: I am not left-handed. Switches hands, they begin to move up the stairs.
Man In Black: You're amazing!
Inigo: I ought to be after twenty years. Begins to force Man in Black toward a balcony. His body moves the rocks.
Man In Black: There is something I ought to tell you.
Inigo: Tell me.
Man In Black: I'm not left-handed either.Switches hands and flourishes sword.
The Man in Black knocks Inigo's sword from his hand. Inigo jumps down to retrieve it. The Man in Black tosses his sword into a patch of grass. He flips over a beam and lands next to his sword, plucking it from the ground.
Inigo: Who are you?
Man In Black: No one of consequence.
Inigo: I must know.
Man In Black: Get used to disappointment.
Inigo: Shrugs. Okay.
They continue to fight until the Man In Black knocks Inigo's sword from his hands.
Inigo: Kneeling. Kill me quickly.
Man In Black:Circling Inigo. I would as soon destroy a stained-glass window as an artist like yourself. However, since I can't have you following me either....
The Man In Black hits Inigo over the head with the hilt of his sword. Inigo hits the ground, out cold.
Man In Black: Please understand I hold you in the highest respect. Runs off.
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman
2012-01-02 02:19:20 PM
Jake Havechek
:
Hayden Christiansen being inserted at the end of "Jedi" didn't bother me as much as that shiat-ass New Age music replacing the Ewok celebration song.
^This
I also found it totally unbelievable that people on all of the planets would be celebrating en masse so quickly as well, especially on Coruscant where I would assume the military might of the empire would still be in place and some one there would be trying to maintain control. Its not like every member of the Imperial fleet was under mind control by the Emperor or something.
Caradoc
2012-01-02 02:28:01 PM
Bob Anderson is featured in the documentary "Reclaiming the Blade." It's on Netflix Instant.
apeiron242
2012-01-02 02:47:07 PM
Darth Vader die
s
at the end of Return of the Jedi. Robert Anderson just die
d
. He is dea
d
.
g-booby
2012-01-02 02:54:34 PM
Fano
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PizzaJedi81: Sybarite: Ha! +1
And a big old -1 to Lucas, for making the joke feasible in the first place.
Time to redo those scenes with Ray Park. That whole battle in Bespin was just so dull. I mean, breaking a window and throwing boxes? That's grandpa stuff.
Vader was to keep Luke alive to present to the Emperor. I believe Vader's strategy in Bespin was to counter Luke's rookie aggressiveness with minimal effort to display Vader's saber skills as superior - meaning Luke was trying very hard to parlay and Vader barely had to move in order neutralize his attacks. Then Vader employed Sith techniques of force throwing objects as attack - also to display his superior force powers. I would concede that this strategy was also purposely constructed as such by Vader, knowing the limitations of his mostly mechanical body, while sparring.
Then Lucas blew this theory all to shiat with General Grievous, who apparently did not have any mobility limitations with a mechanical body and could spar easily with highy saber-skilled Jedi such as Kenobi (or more ironically, Anakin.)
/Nerd rant off
BroVinny
2012-01-02 02:57:11 PM
apeiron242
:
Darth Vader dies at the end of Return of the Jedi. Robert Anderson just died. He is dead.
"Dies" is apparently acceptable usage for real-world people who've died in headlines. Sorry.
otterly_delicious
2012-01-02 03:03:43 PM
Inigo
:
PizzaJedi81: LegacyDL: You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
What do you mean, "again"?
What do you mean, "act"?
19 Kilo
2012-01-02 03:22:40 PM
otterly_delicious
:
Inigo: PizzaJedi81: LegacyDL: You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
What do you mean, "again"?
What do you mean, "act"?
What do you mean "You people"?
PizzaJedi81
2012-01-02 03:23:50 PM
19 Kilo
:
otterly_delicious: Inigo: PizzaJedi81: LegacyDL: You mean Hayden Christiansen's acting career, right subby?
Let's face it, he made enough money off of both the movies and the merchandizing that he probably doesn't have to act much, if ever, again, so long as he spends wisely.
What do you mean, "again"?
What do you mean, "act"?
What do you mean "You people"?
What do
you
mean "You people"?
yllosubmarine
2012-01-02 03:28:59 PM
I met this guy at a con in the UK about six years ago. He was in the LotR section, sitting at a booth near glorified extras/stunt guys more than half his age, and there was no queue to get his autograph or anything. No one knew who he was, obviously. A friend of mine asked him what it felt like to stab Frodo on Weathertop. He chuckled and said "it was a delight."
/Cool story, sis.
Aracnix
2012-01-02 03:31:34 PM
I'm watching these movies with my kids this weekend. Finished New Hope and Empire last night. First, there's nothing that an older movie can do to compete with the brain-blitz eye-candy shiate-bomb that is most kid's sci-fi/fantasy movies today. Secondly, Lucas is a farkwad. If half of the shiate that was inserted into the "new and improved" version had happened with a real director, s/he would have cut and re-shot the scene. New Hope was a bad movie; now it's a farking horrible movie. Empires was a good movie but the additions haven't improved the quality (although I do like the color contrasts added to the super star destroyer). I'm afraid to watch Return of the Jedi. It was already pretty terrible; now I'm afraid I may vomit.
Fark you, Lucas. This really can't be said enough. Worst. Producer. Ever.
yllosubmarine
2012-01-02 03:32:30 PM
Oh, and if you haven't seen it, there's a cool film from a couple years ago called Reclaiming the Blade. Anderson is interviewed along with other people involved in the sword training in LotR -- Viggo Mortensen, Karl Urban, etc.
Aracnix
2012-01-02 03:33:45 PM
But I looooooved The Princess Bride. Anyone associated with that film has a piece of my heart forever. Godspeed, swordsman.
fusillade762
2012-01-02 04:44:57 PM
/oblig
HOBOTECH
2012-01-02 05:14:36 PM
Holy crap, I gotta get STAR WARS on Blu-Ray Now. Wow!
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener
2012-01-02 05:15:38 PM
Jake Havechek:
Hayden Christiansen being inserted at the end of "Jedi" didn't bother me as much as that shiat-ass New Age music replacing the Ewok celebration song.
PREACH IT.
I love me that "Yub Yub" song.
Aracnix:
But I looooooved The Princess Bride. Anyone associated with that film has a piece of my heart forever. Godspeed, swordsman.
*pours one on the sidewalk for him, Peter Falk, and Andre the Giant*
Nurglitch
2012-01-02 05:28:40 PM
g-booby
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Fano: PizzaJedi81: Sybarite: Ha! +1
And a big old -1 to Lucas, for making the joke feasible in the first place.
Time to redo those scenes with Ray Park. That whole battle in Bespin was just so dull. I mean, breaking a window and throwing boxes? That's grandpa stuff.
Vader was to keep Luke alive to present to the Emperor. I believe Vader's strategy in Bespin was to counter Luke's rookie aggressiveness with minimal effort to display Vader's saber skills as superior - meaning Luke was trying very hard to parlay and Vader barely had to move in order neutralize his attacks. Then Vader employed Sith techniques of force throwing objects as attack - also to display his superior force powers. I would concede that this strategy was also purposely constructed as such by Vader, knowing the limitations of his mostly mechanical body, while sparring.
Then Lucas blew this theory all to shiat with General Grievous, who apparently did not have any mobility limitations with a mechanical body and could spar easily with highy saber-skilled Jedi such as Kenobi (or more ironically, Anakin.)
/Nerd rant off
Lucas is definitely one of those artists whose goal is to use CGI to paint his imagination on the screen, so people can realize just how disappointing it is. That's why Terry Gilliam used to avoid it, and that's why the Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus sucked.
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