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(The Jakarta Globe)   Right now, six people running for the job of the leader of the most powerful nation on earth are trying desperately to convince voters that they don't believe in science and won't govern based on it   (thejakartaglobe.com) divider line 511
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2012-01-02 01:09:41 PM  
I don't need no stinkin' facts to tell me what my gut thinks we should do. My gut says we need to get our government out of Medicare.
 
2012-01-02 01:10:16 PM  
out of our Medicare*
 
2012-01-02 01:18:45 PM  
If this nation elects one of these anti-science types, I may just kill myself. Or move to Nigeria or something.
 
2012-01-02 01:27:43 PM  
Science is the tool of the devil
 
2012-01-02 01:28:28 PM  
No subby. They don't believe in your science
 
2012-01-02 01:29:15 PM  
What has science ever done for us?
 
2012-01-02 01:29:22 PM  
Someone who denies science the way these people do should not be allowed to use any of the things science has given us including TV, radio, cell phones, medicine, internal combustion, electricity and electronic voting machines.

That should successfully keep these luddites out of our politics.

If you're that willfully ignorant, get out of the way. I mean, the rest of us are trying to run a civilization here.
 
2012-01-02 01:29:26 PM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-01-02 01:30:07 PM  
Let's ask Tim Minchin what he thinks of all this.
 
2012-01-02 01:30:39 PM  
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2012-01-02 01:30:45 PM  

jaylectricity: If this nation elects one of these anti-science types, I may just kill myself. Or move to Nigeria or something.


Cool. If you ever need to deposit any money in a US account just shoot me an e mail
 
2012-01-02 01:32:10 PM  
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
 
2012-01-02 01:32:32 PM  
It says a hell of a lot about the electorate. Much more than it says about the candidates.
 
2012-01-02 01:33:23 PM  
It's frightening that in the year 2012, there are people who don't believe in evolution, or at the very least, anything science-based. My mind literally cannot comprehend how someone like that can exist. I know why, but I don't know how.
 
2012-01-02 01:33:35 PM  
I believe in evolution and science.

I don't believe in the exagerated claims of human induced climate change.

Climate science has been politicised, and hence corrupted by politics.
 
2012-01-02 01:33:47 PM  
"As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except Negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except Negroes and foreigners and Catholics." When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty - to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy." -- Abraham Lincoln.

The sad part is that if you substitute "Know-Nothings" with "Tea Partiers" and "Negroes" with "Homosexuals", it's just as accurate today as it was in 1855. (Although the Teabaggers would openly hate on negroes too, if they could get away with it)
 
2012-01-02 01:34:09 PM  
To all you extremist Christians...there is a way for both science and religion to co-exist...I suggest having an open mind.

//not religious
 
2012-01-02 01:34:31 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It says a hell of a lot about the electorate. Much more than it says about the candidates.


No. No It doesn't. Are there stupid people in this country? Sure are. Are there stupid people in every country? Sure are. Do stupid people like to attention whore? You-betcha! Is there a better way to AW than running for president? Nope.

/You can make generalizations if anyone of them actually get elected.
 
2012-01-02 01:34:46 PM  
Jesus didn't believe in evolution.

And gravity is just a theory.
 
2012-01-02 01:35:09 PM  
www.google.co.uk

USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-01-02 01:35:37 PM  

Rob3Fan: I don't believe in the exagerated claims of human induced climate change.


That's nice.

Run along now.
 
2012-01-02 01:36:00 PM  
I'm so sick of these regressive a-holes. I weep for what they want to do to this country.
 
2012-01-02 01:36:09 PM  
Not science, but the agressive forced interpretation of science that disallows God to exist.
 
2012-01-02 01:36:31 PM  
You're all a bunch of smug, sneering liberals.

/right-wing troll in training
//amidoingitrite?
///point, laugh
 
2012-01-02 01:36:35 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It says a hell of a lot about the electorate. Much more than it says about the candidates.


Thank the church / corporate tag team combo that the republicans are pandering to. Corporations like less educated people because they're easier to coerce and are more willing to go along with harmful legislation if it'll help profits. Religions like less educated people because they're more likely to fill up pews and can be browbeaten into handing over their money in exchange for protection from supernatural jibberish. Republicans pander to both because it's easier to run for office when the people who are likely to vote for you can't tell the difference between truth and ridiculous fiction and think truth is a matter of consensus.
 
2012-01-02 01:36:36 PM  

Man On Fire: What has science ever done for us?


The aquaducts?
 
2012-01-02 01:36:40 PM  
We appear to have Farked the link. Alternative one HERE
 
2012-01-02 01:36:54 PM  
http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Gadget/AA%20jetpack/AA-jetpack_1.jpg

this guy likes science
 
2012-01-02 01:37:01 PM  
Believing in science is much the same as believing in God. Either one takes some degree of "faith" to make the puzzle fit. Personally, I believe there can be a co-existance of both, but I find the universe and all that has taken place to be too miraculous to have "just happened".
 
2012-01-02 01:37:21 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It says a hell of a lot about the electorate. Much more than it says about the candidates.


Ding! Ding!
 
2012-01-02 01:38:02 PM  

whidbey: Rob3Fan: I don't believe in the exagerated claims of human induced climate change.

That's nice.

Run along now.


If you can't spell correctly, I certainly wouldn't expect you to believe in facts.
 
2012-01-02 01:38:20 PM  
www.likecool.com

this guy believes in science

/sry
 
2012-01-02 01:38:30 PM  
Huntsman believes in science, and due to that simple fact, he will never be a GOP nominee...makes me sad
 
2012-01-02 01:38:49 PM  
Saying you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe the earth rotates around the sun.

These people should be tarred and feathered, not given a soapbox.
 
2012-01-02 01:39:06 PM  

Mr.BobDobalita: Believing in science is much the same as believing in God. Either one takes some degree of "faith" to make the puzzle fit. Personally, I believe there can be a co-existance of both, but I find the universe and all that has taken place to be too miraculous to have "just happened".


To quote Tim Minchin again, "Science changes its views based on what's observed. Faith ignores new evidence so faith can be preserved." Truth isn't a matter of consensus, chief.
 
2012-01-02 01:40:11 PM  

Lordserb: Not science, but the agressive forced interpretation of science that disallows God to exist.


Could a god be so powerful as to aggressively force an interpretation of science that disallows it to exist?
 
2012-01-02 01:40:28 PM  

Mr.BobDobalita: Believing in science is much the same as believing in God. Either one takes some degree of "faith" to make the puzzle fit. Personally, I believe there can be a co-existance of both, but I find the universe and all that has taken place to be too miraculous to have "just happened".


Fark me, that's some major mental derp.

A strong front runner for the derp of the year. Congratulations.
 
2012-01-02 01:41:02 PM  
I'm honestly starting to think you could show one of these people a science fair baking-soda-and-vinegar volcano, and they'd clutch their heads while running away and screaming "SATAN!"
 
2012-01-02 01:41:13 PM  
I used to worry about the level of blatant insanity in the Republican primary, until I realized it was just the Republican primary. The Democrats aren't doing anything newsworthy with their choice because it's obviously going to be the incumbent (Obama), and the chances of him not getting re-elected are incredibly slim. The only reason we're hearing so much about these wackjobs is because they're the only show in town right now.
 
2012-01-02 01:42:44 PM  

Scruffinator: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.


and we're still a few years away from a viable escape vehicle.
 
2012-01-02 01:42:58 PM  

GungFu: A strong front runner for the derp of the year. Congratulations.


File it away for now. This year is going to be beyond epic in terms of derpishness, mark my words.
 
2012-01-02 01:43:23 PM  
You know, I was kinda surprised when I found out that people in Germany actually read the newspaper horoscopes and that some people believe in them, and it amuses me that some people take the tarot reader in her carnival tent seriously, but that's nothing compared to the amount of superstition and belief in stupid fucng fairy tales I've encountered in the US. And it's not like those are, per se, Christian beliefs either, because, simply said, those super nut bag pseudo Christian sects aren't actually relevant outside the US. Rapturism, dominionism, antiscience... All that shiat is what makes America the laughing stock of the world ;)
 
2012-01-02 01:43:29 PM  

Lordserb: Not science, but the agressive forced interpretation of science that disallows God to exist.


If he exists in your mind, good for you.
 
2012-01-02 01:43:34 PM  

Lordserb: Not science, but the agressive forced interpretation of science that disallows God to exist.


It's hardly aggressive or forced.
 
2012-01-02 01:43:39 PM  

mavexe: AverageAmericanGuy: It says a hell of a lot about the electorate. Much more than it says about the candidates.

No. No It doesn't. Are there stupid people in this country? Sure are. Are there stupid people in every country? Sure are. Do stupid people like to attention whore? You-betcha! Is there a better way to AW than running for president? Nope.

/You can make generalizations if anyone of them actually get elected.


No, I think he's right, he just didn't properly specify what group of people is encompassed by "electorate".

In this case, it's the Republican Primaries electorate who are, poorly reflected on by these jokers.

Le Grand Inquisitor: Huntsman believes in science, and due to that simple fact, he will never be a GOP nominee...makes me sad


I really wish people would stop saying "believe in science", anyway. You don't "believe in science" because "belief" implies something that isn't science.

But it is sad about Huntsman. 30-40 years ago he would have been the *minimum acceptable standard* for a GOP candidate and these other jokers would have been "News of the Weird" mentions a year after the election itself was completed.
 
2012-01-02 01:43:52 PM  

Mr.BobDobalita: Believing in science is much the same as believing in God. Either one takes some degree of "faith" to make the puzzle fit. Personally, I believe there can be a co-existance of both, but I find the universe and all that has taken place to be too miraculous to have "just happened".


I find the idea of an eternal supernatural and omnipotent being no more logical than the idea of a universe that springs into existence under some mechanism that we do not understand.

In either case, you have something nearly beyond human comprehension existing without cause.
 
2012-01-02 01:44:21 PM  

Scruffinator: I don't want to live on this planet anymore.


And I'll be in my Angry Dome! (new window)
 
2012-01-02 01:44:56 PM  
They all want control of the nukes though. I guess god handed those down to us through a special tree.

Also, I do not believe in science or have faith in it. I don't need those things because I have proof. Ask for it by name.
 
2012-01-02 01:45:08 PM  
Republicans: the party of LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA
 
2012-01-02 01:45:30 PM  

nytmare: Lordserb: Not science, but the agressive forced interpretation of science that disallows God to exist.

Could a god be so powerful as to aggressively force an interpretation of science that disallows it to exist?


Could God be so powerful as to create an immovable object and an unstoppable force?

Does it matter? To a being that could create the universe and all the necessarily laws, such a question would be irrelevant.
 
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