Number four is cheap iced tea?

How about leading the US for sensible immigration laws - requiring painful enforcement - even if the Federal Government hates them?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm preempting the anti-US/AZEIR folks that want amnesty by virtue of guest worker programs).

I'm going to Phoenix tomorrow through Thursday, so this is relevant to my interests.

/any Phoenix farkers who want to grab a beer after work, EIP

aw c'mon subby... you have to admit that it is pretty amazing how close the meteor came to hitting the visitor's center.

jso2897: sethstorm: How about leading the US for sensible immigration laws - requiring painful enforcement - even if the Federal Government hates them?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm preempting the anti-US/AZEIR folks that want amnesty by virtue of guest worker programs).

"Painful?" Why does enforcement have to be "painful?"
What are we going to do, give them noogies or purple nurples when we round them up? Make them ride in detention buses with uncomfortable seats?
I don't see the point, and it sounds kind of vindictive, as well.

Because Jesus hates socialism and brown skinned people.

Arizona: Arguably Better than New Mexico

Of those listed, I'd say the most far reaching change (for net good, in my opinion) would be the Miranda v. Arizona ruling.

Can't argue with the Chimichanga, but the first one I ever had was back when I lived in Oregon.

/the best in Portland is at Cha Cha Cha (Pearl District)
//the best (thus far) I've found in AZ is at Senor Taco in Fountain Hills
///chimi-slashie

jso2897: sethstorm: How about leading the US for sensible immigration laws - requiring painful enforcement - even if the Federal Government hates them?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm preempting the anti-US/AZEIR folks that want amnesty by virtue of guest worker programs).

"Painful?" Why does enforcement have to be "painful?"
What are we going to do, give them noogies or purple nurples when we round them up? Make them ride in detention buses with uncomfortable seats?
I don't see the point, and it sounds kind of vindictive, as well.

It causes some initial pain to businesses to adjust to having to hire citizens and use machines instead of less-than-legal labor. Businesses think they have some incorrect right to be above the law and bypass citizens, while asking citizens to be "competitive".

sethstorm: How about leading the US for sensible immigration laws - requiring painful enforcement - even if the Federal Government hates them?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm preempting the anti-US/AZEIR folks that want amnesty by virtue of guest worker programs).

I'm special because 3 of my grandparents were born in the US and my kids are special because they are can date themselves back to 1687. Damned indigenous peoples who think they can ignore artificial borders. Don't they understand manifest destiny? God herself has mandated that I'm special and they are not.

HaywoodJablonski: Arizona: Arguably Better than New Mexico

Well, I like a good chimichanga but a proper Navajo Taco is much much better, so I disagree. I have hiked in and out of the Grand Canyon, love Tucson, but New Mexico is better ... at least from a tourist point of view.

Geez, Arizona and no mention of Sheriff Joe Arpaio?

The inspiration to racist jackbooted corrupt thugs everywhere, and the worthless senile old coots that keep re-electing him.

The birthplace of modern conservatism

Racism, xenophopia, paranoia and willful ignorance are "modern"?

gopher321: I can honestly say I've never had a "chimichanga" in my life. My Dad did see the Grand Canyon once...

You poor soul. Chimis are fantastic.

jaytkay: The birthplace of modern conservatism

Racism, xenophopia, paranoia and willful ignorance are "modern"?

"modern conservatism". Conservatism was not always so banal.

Is modern conservatism like military intelligence or jumbo shrimp?

gopher321: My Dad did see the Grand Canyon once...

But please, enough about your mother.

ViciousXero: Number four is cheap iced tea?

That or shiatty jeans.

EvilEgg: sethstorm: How about leading the US for sensible immigration laws - requiring painful enforcement - even if the Federal Government hates them?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm preempting the anti-US/AZEIR folks that want amnesty by virtue of guest worker programs).

Did that legislation change the world?

/Hint: There is life outside of the US borders.

And it should stay outside the borders or cross it legally.

Benjimin_Dover: And it should stay outside the borders or cross it legally.

SO MUCH THIS.

I'm pretty sure they found a hole in the ground and called it Arizona.

#101. Nation's first zombie governor

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: wademh: Well, I like a good chimichanga but a proper Navajo Taco is much much better, so I disagree. I have hiked in and out of the Grand Canyon, love Tucson, but New Mexico is better ... at least from a tourist point of view.

You sound brown.

Not much brown on this Irish flesh.

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: wademh: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: wademh: Well, I like a good chimichanga but a proper Navajo Taco is much much better, so I disagree. I have hiked in and out of the Grand Canyon, love Tucson, but New Mexico is better ... at least from a tourist point of view.

You sound brown.

Not much brown on this Irish flesh.

Now, you sound pale blue. :)

Mostly due to Los Alamos?

EyeballKid: [blogs-images.forbes.com image 400x273]
#101. Nation's first zombie governor

She had enough brains to sign SB1070 into law, thus causing other states like Alabama to enact similar ones.

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: sethstorm: Mostly due to Los Alamos?

Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with that pale blue methamphetamine that's been going around Albuquerque. :)

Was thinking of Cherenkov radiation.

An even more deadly blue glow.

wademh: jaytkay: The birthplace of modern conservatism

Racism, xenophopia, paranoia and willful ignorance are "modern"?

"modern conservatism". Conservatism was not always so banal.

What the pundits call "conservative" today is actually regression. Conservatives used to maintain the status quo. Before the age of crazy, Obama would have been called a conservative (and run as a Republican) because, like it or not, he has pretty much maintained the status quo in the precedents set by his predecessor.

/If Arizona had any sense, it would leave "modern conservatism" in a basket on a doorstep, rather than claiming it
//My visit to Arizona made me appreciate being a resident of Pennsylvania
///Dry heat: so hot that droplets of sweat evaporate as soon as they reach the surface of your skin

edmo: jaytkay: The birthplace of modern conservatism

I don't get this: today's conservatives are far removed from Goldwater; they're "NEO," not modern. "Today's conservatives" are hardly practicing traditional conservatism - men of intellect have been replaced by idiots and beyond.

THIS times a thousand. Goldwater got a bad, bad rap.

Don't diss the chimichanga.

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: sethstorm: Mostly due to Los Alamos?

Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with that pale blue methamphetamine that's been going around Albuquerque. :)

That stuff is all over the south west now. :P