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2012-01-01 08:44:44 PM
so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.
 
2012-01-01 09:03:18 PM
This thing fluxtuates so hard between common sense predictions and outright lunacy. How can anyone get one but not the other?
 
2012-01-01 09:06:46 PM
at least one well-known religious leader or leading religious politician will be brought down by a sex scandal

Whoa! That's really going out on a limb!
 
2012-01-01 09:36:19 PM
That's one way Obama could get the evangelical vote.
 
2012-01-01 09:39:55 PM
Wow, that sucked.

Summary: I represent X. X will be proven correct this year.
 
2012-01-01 09:44:41 PM
Pretty telling that the first three words in the predictions are "The Republican Party".

/yeah, your tax exempt status, its time to for it to end, assholes.
 
2012-01-01 10:40:01 PM
Obamas name appeared only once in the article. And then only in the comments. And I didn't find Apocalypse in there anywhere either. Obama was only mentioned once.
 
2012-01-01 10:41:31 PM
9. Sabbath becomes trendy!

images.hhv.de

Sabbath never goes out of style.
 
2012-01-01 10:42:01 PM
from my understanding of christianity, isn't the apocalypse a good thing for "real" christians? why are they always trying to stop it?
 
2012-01-01 10:42:50 PM
fireclown: Obamas name appeared only once in the article. And then only in the comments. And I didn't find Apocalypse in there anywhere either. Obama was only mentioned once.

you said once twice
 
2012-01-01 10:44:06 PM
ktybear: fireclown: Obamas name appeared only once in the article. And then only in the comments. And I didn't find Apocalypse in there anywhere either. Obama was only mentioned once.

you said once twice


He really likes once.
 
2012-01-01 10:45:16 PM
Nunpoo: from my understanding of christianity, isn't the apocalypse a good thing for "real" christians? why are they always trying to stop it?

To avoid the horrific Falwell-Robertson love explosion
images.wikia.com
 
2012-01-01 10:46:00 PM
Mad_Radhu:
Sabbath never goes out of style.


No, they sure don't

\m/
 
2012-01-01 10:46:21 PM
ktybear: fireclown: Obamas name appeared only once in the article. And then only in the comments. And I didn't find Apocalypse in there anywhere either. Obama was only mentioned once.

you said once twice


you said twice once
 
2012-01-01 10:48:22 PM
dash.ponychan.net
 
2012-01-01 10:51:05 PM
nytmare: ktybear: fireclown: Obamas name appeared only once in the article. And then only in the comments. And I didn't find Apocalypse in there anywhere either. Obama was only mentioned once.

you said once twice

you said twice once


who shot twice?
 
2012-01-01 10:51:08 PM
The world really could end if Obama gets reelected, because Republicans will do anything to prevent him from retaking office, even if it means assassination or endorsing an open revolution.
 
2012-01-01 10:53:17 PM
Weaver95: so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.


I'm ok with this
 
2012-01-01 10:53:26 PM
It's amazing how many people will turn to politics and religion to justify racism.

Well, not really amazing anymore. I guess I should say "it's sad."
 
2012-01-01 10:54:33 PM
drunk_bouncnbaloruber: The world really could end if Obama gets reelected, because Republicans will do anything to prevent him from retaking office, even if it means assassination or endorsing an open revolution.

Too late, they already are..
 
2012-01-01 10:54:47 PM
Is anyone else really annoyed when people use the term "Islamist?" I'm going to have to start using Christianist and Judist if it doesn't stop soon. Honestly, it's almost as annoying as using "warfighter" instead of serviceman or soldier/sailor/marine/airman.
 
2012-01-01 10:55:47 PM
meat0918: Weaver95: so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.


I'm ok with this


I'm not. I don't want to be booted out of Oregon by the Elves...
 
2012-01-01 10:56:11 PM
Here's one: Everyone will be older than they were last year.
 
2012-01-01 10:56:42 PM
drunk_bouncnbaloruber: The world really could end if Obama gets reelected, because Republicans will do anything to prevent him from retaking office, even if it means assassination or endorsing an open revolution.

I really am surprised there has not been an attempt already, at least not one that the media has been informed about. But, yeah, if (when) President Obama wins the election, the crazies will have a hate-rage and all hell will break loose and be implicitly encouraged
 
2012-01-01 10:58:11 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-01-01 10:58:18 PM
Only you Farkists complain about such things.
I like the term "Muslimist" better or maybe "homosexualist".
Not that they're both the same, Allah forfend.
 
2012-01-01 10:58:53 PM
 
2012-01-01 11:00:45 PM
Three words for you:
TIME WAVE ZERO
check it out
 
2012-01-01 11:01:17 PM
"Meanwhile, visitors to Marriott hotels will finally crack open some of those nightstand copies of The Book of Mormon."

Oh, right! I've seen these while looking for a bottle opener.
 
2012-01-01 11:03:07 PM
Was expecting a lot of 700 Club style whackiness, but got a lot of well stated and reasonable predictions with some mild self-serving stuff. Hardly worth the read. Come on crazy religious people, we need to hear from you!
 
2012-01-01 11:04:02 PM
drongozone: Three words for you:
TIME WAVE ZERO
check it out


I'd rather deal with old hippies on shamanistic herbs than religious whackos high on blind faith.
 
2012-01-01 11:04:17 PM
Forbidden Doughnut: meat0918: Weaver95: so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.


I'm ok with this

I'm not. I don't want to be booted out of Oregon by the Elves...


Hmm, forgot about that part.
 
2012-01-01 11:04:35 PM
From e-mail:

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

The Obituary follows: Born 1776, Died 2012

It doesn't hurt to read this several times. Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29

Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country. Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message. If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

This is truly scary! Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic . There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012. If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.
 
2012-01-01 11:07:15 PM
www.mojoimage.com
 
2012-01-01 11:07:41 PM
Pray in one and and shiat in the other.
 
2012-01-01 11:09:13 PM
dogslobber buttlube: Only you Farkists

Talking about yourself in third person is a sign of insanity
 
2012-01-01 11:10:48 PM
cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: Here's one: Everyone will be older than they were last year.

Not until April, I won't.

A serious prediction: more fundamental churches will begin to lose younger members over the next few years. Young adults are starting to figure out this new-fangled "traditional fundamentalism," AKA the Southern Baptists and similar denominations/ideals sprouted in the last couple of hundred years, doesn't make sense. I'm hoping more traditional Mainline churches (Presbyterian, Methodist, ABA, Anglican) or Catholic churches pick up those disaffected by exclusionary and hurtful fundamentalist rhetoric.
 
2012-01-01 11:13:41 PM
www.t-a-d-a.com
 
2012-01-01 11:14:25 PM
Fista-Phobia:

Remove the selective partisan bias from that diatribe and what's left is "Democrats are urban. Republicans are rural."

I, for one, am shocked at this revelation.
 
2012-01-01 11:14:48 PM
Weaver95: so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.

Your past hero Dubya would be so disappointed in you.
 
2012-01-01 11:19:01 PM
DingleberryMoose: cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: Here's one: Everyone will be older than they were last year.

Not until April, I won't.

A serious prediction: more fundamental churches will begin to lose younger members over the next few years. Young adults are starting to figure out this new-fangled "traditional fundamentalism," AKA the Southern Baptists and similar denominations/ideals sprouted in the last couple of hundred years, doesn't make sense. I'm hoping more traditional Mainline churches (Presbyterian, Methodist, ABA, Anglican) or Catholic churches pick up those disaffected by exclusionary and hurtful fundamentalist rhetoric.


It was sorta funny, at my extended family xmas get together we disagreed on politics but all could agree the baptist are crazy; )
 
2012-01-01 11:20:54 PM
bighairyguy: crazy religious people

There's no need to be redundant.
 
2012-01-01 11:22:49 PM
nytmare: Fista-Phobia:

Remove the selective partisan bias from that diatribe and what's left is "Democrats are urban. Republicans are rural."

I, for one, am shocked at this revelation.


For me, it's the end-of-times vibe. I don't know how or why people buy into that.

feelsbadman.jpg
 
2012-01-01 11:22:54 PM
Mad_Radhu: Sabbath never goes out of style.

Especially their first two albums.
 
2012-01-01 11:29:37 PM
"15 faith-based predictions for 2012

To ring in the New Year, CNN's Belief Blog asked experts in religion, faith leaders, and a secular humanist about how the forces of faith and faithlessness will shape the world in 2012.
"

So that's a faith, then?
 
2012-01-01 11:29:52 PM
I so hate religious people and pretty much everything about them.
 
2012-01-01 11:30:15 PM
meat0918: Forbidden Doughnut: meat0918: Weaver95: so far, the table top role playing game Shadowrun has been a far more accurate predictor of future events than the christian bible.


I'm ok with this

I'm not. I don't want to be booted out of Oregon by the Elves...

Hmm, forgot about that part.


If memory servers, it was the tribals that broke the back of the US government and shattered the country into several smaller countries. they have a few years of relative peace (and lots of internal chaos) during which time the UGE elves grew up, got recruited by a certain pointy ears conspiracy and betrayed the NAN and formed Tir Tangire. similar events in Ireland formed Tir Nan Og, only with some rather more nasty elves running the show there.

so all you have to do is avoid getting kicked out of portland by the NAN and then you can get discriminated against by the elves when they take over 20 years after that.
 
2012-01-01 11:31:57 PM
Fista-Phobia: From e-mail:

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

The Obituary follows: Born 1776, Died 2012

It doesn't hurt to read this several times. Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29

Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country. Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message. If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

This is truly scary! Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic . There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012. If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.


Gotta love those emails. I'm not sure about the rest of the "facts", but right off the bat they screwed up the elections results. Obama carried 28 States plus DC, and McCain carried 22. Plus, with Obama carrying the populous areas on the coasts, there's no way that the population of counties carried by McCain could be higher, especially considering how the electoral vote was a blowout.
 
2012-01-01 11:37:07 PM
Prediction: Tim Tebow will be exposed as a complete fraud. You have to think deep down he's the Elmer Gantry of the NFL.
 
2012-01-01 11:37:35 PM
tinfoil-hat maggie: DingleberryMoose: cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: Here's one: Everyone will be older than they were last year.

Not until April, I won't.

A serious prediction: more fundamental churches will begin to lose younger members over the next few years. Young adults are starting to figure out this new-fangled "traditional fundamentalism," AKA the Southern Baptists and similar denominations/ideals sprouted in the last couple of hundred years, doesn't make sense. I'm hoping more traditional Mainline churches (Presbyterian, Methodist, ABA, Anglican) or Catholic churches pick up those disaffected by exclusionary and hurtful fundamentalist rhetoric.

It was sorta funny, at my extended family xmas get together we disagreed on politics but all could agree the baptist are crazy; )


Haven't heard from you in a bit, glad I decided to pop over to this thread before bedtime. I'm a guy with fairly liberal theological leanings living in Fundieland. There are times I just ask people why they believe like/what they do because I know they won't have an answer and I like to see self-righteous people sputter.

/my favorite question is, "How did Judas die?"
//washer's done, off to bed
 
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