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(Info Wars)   Obama's NDAA Signing Statement: I have the power to detain Americans...but I won't   (infowars.com) divider line 288
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2012-01-01 03:19:52 PM  
And the next Republican president will simply throw that out the window. Signing this was a bad idea, Obama.

/will most likely vote third party since CA's going for Obama anyway.
 
2012-01-01 03:39:21 PM  
I'd have preferred a four-letter Latin word.
 
2012-01-01 03:50:45 PM  
And how many people actually believe that? He took what Bush did with the Patriot Act and pushed it way beyond. But hey, now he has the power but he won't use it, yea riight.
 
2012-01-01 04:09:53 PM  
1. Sign NDAA
2. Declare all political opponents "suspected terrorists"
3. Dictate for fun and profit
 
2012-01-01 04:48:26 PM  
GOP: 'we're gonna give the president the power to detain anyone anywhere for any (or no) reason at all and he's GONNA LIKE IT OR ELSE!'

Obama: 'wait. no. stop! absolute power!'

GOP: 'meh. you're just a placeholder until we can put a REAL president into that office.'

Obama: 'ok, fine. be that way.' [signs legislation into law]. 'ok, execute Order 66. the GOP must be purged.'

GOP: 'hey - WAIT! you can't do that!'

Obama: 'I warned you not to give me this power.'

GOP: [being dragged away] 'you can't dooooo thissssssssss!'

Obama: *sigh* 'I need a cheeseburger. Facism makes me hungry.'
 
2012-01-01 04:57:11 PM  

Weaver95: GOP: 'we're gonna give the president the power to detain anyone anywhere for any (or no) reason at all and he's GONNA LIKE IT OR ELSE!'

Obama: 'wait. no. stop! absolute power!'

GOP: 'meh. you're just a placeholder until we can put a REAL president into that office.'

Obama: 'ok, fine. be that way.' [signs legislation into law]. 'ok, execute Order 66. the GOP must be purged.'

GOP: 'hey - WAIT! you can't do that!'

Obama: 'I warned you not to give me this power.'

GOP: [being dragged away] 'you can't dooooo thissssssssss!'

Obama: *sigh* 'I need a cheeseburger. Facism makes me hungry.'


Ron Paul would put a stop to this shiat, Ron Paul.
 
2012-01-01 05:08:47 PM  
You're all missing the point. Alex Jones quotes from Wikipedia that Obama must ignore his signing statement and follow the law as it is written, to the "t." Therefore, Obama is obliged to lock-up Alex Jones and subby, for submitting an Alex Jones article.

/Almost as bad as the Mars guy from the other day.
 
2012-01-01 05:10:16 PM  
Possible tranlations:

I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I don't disagree with it enough to actually veto it.

I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I don't have the balls to veto it.

/wishes it was the former
//knows it's probably the latter
///dammitsomuch
 
2012-01-01 05:10:22 PM  
I am not in the right mind to try and decipher an Alex Jones link.
 
2012-01-01 05:12:03 PM  
"My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution."


This clearly one of the stupidest thing congress has done in a long time, but just passing a law doesn't make it Constitutional. I wish he'd vetoed the farking thing, but at least they're admitting it's a steaming pile.
 
2012-01-01 05:18:49 PM  
Yet. Wait a while. He has proven his bloodthirst.
 
2012-01-01 05:37:48 PM  

themindiswatching: And the next Republican president will simply throw that out the window. Signing this was a bad idea, Obama.


McCarthy era 2 - Electric Boogaloo.
 
2012-01-01 05:38:54 PM  

EnviroDude: Yet. Wait a while. He has proven his bloodthirst.


That's it? What a rip off
 
2012-01-01 05:42:58 PM  
I'm giving it until the end of the day until this gets abused.
 
2012-01-01 05:49:22 PM  

TommyymmoT: themindiswatching: And the next Republican president will simply throw that out the window. Signing this was a bad idea, Obama.

McCarthy era 2 - Electric Boogaloo.


To some Republicans, he was a hero persecuted by the Communists in the federal government.
 
2012-01-01 06:02:41 PM  

GaryPDX: Ron Paul would put a stop to this shiat, Ron Paul.


jeffwinbush.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-01-01 06:07:06 PM  
So? I still don't want this on the books.
 
2012-01-01 06:11:14 PM  
Veto and force a veto override.
 
2012-01-01 06:14:47 PM  
Congress Oath of Office: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

President's Oath of Office:""I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."
"


Obama and every member of Congress who voted for this constitution-wrecking bill has flagrantly violated their Oath of Office.

Do your duty, Americans.
 
2012-01-01 06:15:51 PM  

Party Boy: Veto and force a veto override.



Too late. He signed it.


/You didn't think he wouldn't did you?
 
2012-01-01 06:18:26 PM  

DarnoKonrad: "My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution."


This clearly one of the stupidest thing congress has done in a long time, but just passing a law doesn't make it Constitutional. I wish he'd vetoed the farking thing, but at least they're admitting it's a steaming pile.



There are plenty of unconstitutional steaming piles that have been effective and in force for decades.

The US Government has declared war on the Citizens of the United States.
 
2012-01-01 06:21:33 PM  

jebusfreak: You're all missing the point. Alex Jones quotes from Wikipedia that Obama must ignore his signing statement and follow the law as it is written, to the "t."



The "signing statement" is about as legally binding as "of course I'll still respect you in the morning, sugar tits".
 
2012-01-01 06:21:37 PM  

jebusfreak: Obama is obliged to lock-up Alex Jones


...

I'm actually okay with this.
 
2012-01-01 06:23:42 PM  
Never hand someone a weapon if you don't know where they'll point it.
 
2012-01-01 06:23:43 PM  
They really expect the shiat to hit the fan in 2012. This is part of preparations.

/Watched Jesse Ventura this morning
 
2012-01-01 06:24:44 PM  

Amos Quito: /You didn't think he wouldn't did you?


If anyone told about NDAA three years ago, I would have laughed at them.
 
2012-01-01 06:31:10 PM  

Amos Quito: DarnoKonrad: "My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution."


This clearly one of the stupidest thing congress has done in a long time, but just passing a law doesn't make it Constitutional. I wish he'd vetoed the farking thing, but at least they're admitting it's a steaming pile.


There are plenty of unconstitutional steaming piles that have been effective and in force for decades.

The US Government has declared war on the Citizens of the United States.




You're being hyperbolic.
 
2012-01-01 06:31:41 PM  
 
2012-01-01 06:35:51 PM  
 
2012-01-01 06:38:24 PM  

Amos Quito: jebusfreak: You're all missing the point. Alex Jones quotes from Wikipedia that Obama must ignore his signing statement and follow the law as it is written, to the "t."


The "signing statement" is about as legally binding as "of course I'll still respect you in the morning, sugar tits".


There were already similar provisions in the AUMF, which was promptly shut down by the courts. When there are actual 5th Amendment violations then you can reasonably say we're living under totalitarianism. But that's just because of the law. If they did it without passing the NDAA it's authoritarianism. Which is hardly a distinction worth making. It only matters if the 5th is violated in practice.
 
2012-01-01 06:39:29 PM  
I can already hear the ACLU gassing up thier Lawyermobile.
 
2012-01-01 06:43:05 PM  

simrobert2001: I can already hear the ACLU gassing up thier Lawyermobile.


So what? Court challenges are good, aren't they?
 
2012-01-01 06:43:16 PM  
It's been a pretty quick slide into the fascist state we have become.

What is so galling is that you can argue all presidents need advisers to educate them on the intricacies of a particular subject because no person is an expert in everything. And in that respect, bad advice can be given and taken. In this case, Obama has held himself out to be a Constitutional scholar. He KNOWS what the NDAA is. He knows that martial law can be declared at any time, for any reason. He knows that the military has been given unprecedented power to act against civilians.

If nothing else, his signing of the law made it perfectly clear that he is just a dancing puppet. As have been most, if not all, presidents in modern history.
 
2012-01-01 06:43:40 PM  

muck4doo: They really expect the shiat to hit the fan in 2012. This is part of preparations.

/Watched Jesse Ventura this morning


Just curious, what did he have to say? (unless yer riffing on the whole conspiracy thing, then never mind)

Hilarious that he signed this over the holiday week it's kind of like covering your sex-stained pants with your coat in the hopes your spouse doesn't notice.
"something really stinks."
"It's nothing to worry about dear, so what's going on over there?"

Oh and 4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-01-01 06:44:43 PM  

simrobert2001: I can already hear the ACLU gassing up thier Lawyermobile.


BS. There's Democrats who need electing. Why waste valuable pro bono hours on this?

/Greenlighting Alex Jones links....really?
//-1
 
2012-01-01 06:46:38 PM  

Shostie: jebusfreak: Obama is obliged to lock-up Alex Jones

...

I'm actually okay with this.


Thats what politicians hope for.

Then one day.... you disappear.
 
2012-01-01 06:48:44 PM  

FredaDeStilleto: It's been a pretty quick slide into the fascist state we have become.

What is so galling is that you can argue all presidents need advisers to educate them on the intricacies of a particular subject because no person is an expert in everything. And in that respect, bad advice can be given and taken. In this case, Obama has held himself out to be a Constitutional scholar. He KNOWS what the NDAA is. He knows that martial law can be declared at any time, for any reason. He knows that the military has been given unprecedented power to act against civilians.

If nothing else, his signing of the law made it perfectly clear that he is just a dancing puppet. As have been most, if not all, presidents in modern history.




We haven't slid anywhere. Which will be attested to when the *vast* majority of the senators and representatives that legislated this thing will be reelected or replaced with even worse alternatives. It ain't Obama, it's your farking neighbors.
 
2012-01-01 06:50:17 PM  
Treasonous bastard.
 
2012-01-01 06:53:04 PM  
It's easier just to kill them.
 
2012-01-01 06:54:32 PM  
0bongo will just about say and do anything to get reelected these says. He signs this aggregious breach on our civil liberties and then says "dont worry my children, I only want the power to detain you, I won't really detain you..." and the ignorant masses will buy that crap hook line and sinker because he's the "the one"! So go ahead and vote for him again...but don't whine to me when you get hauled away
 
2012-01-01 06:56:55 PM  
so hes fine with assassinating americans but not with detaining them?
 
2012-01-01 06:57:59 PM  

FredaDeStilleto: It's been a pretty quick slide into the fascist state we have become.

What is so galling is that you can argue all presidents need advisers to educate them on the intricacies of a particular subject because no person is an expert in everything. And in that respect, bad advice can be given and taken. In this case, Obama has held himself out to be a Constitutional scholar. He KNOWS what the NDAA is. He knows that martial law can be declared at any time, for any reason. He knows that the military has been given unprecedented power to act against civilians.

If nothing else, his signing of the law made it perfectly clear that he is just a dancing puppet. As have been most, if not all, presidents in modern history.


Eisenhower didn't say "beware the Military Industrial Complex" for nuthin'....

It's really interesting to see how voting Americans have little or no influence in foreign policy matters, no matter how much pressure we put on our government.
 
2012-01-01 06:59:10 PM  
You got to feel sorry for Dick Cheney.

He must be looking at this wondering how he could have gotten this done for him and Bush.
 
2012-01-01 07:00:23 PM  
They could already lock you up indefinitely. They've been able to do so for years.

The bullshiat added to the NDAA means, and does, nothing that wasn't already law; adding it was a meaningless, purely political move. Hopefully, since it's gotten more publicity this time around, it'll finally hit the courts.

Also, if the government really wanted to make you disappear, do you really think they'd care if it was legal or not?
 
2012-01-01 07:01:22 PM  

cmunic8r99: Possible tranlations:

I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I don't disagree with it enough to actually veto it.

I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I don't have the balls to veto it.

/wishes it was the former
//knows it's probably the latter
///dammitsomuch


I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I can't find my veto pen, and I don't have time to look for it because my tee time is here.

I don't agree with what's in this bill, but I can't find my spine, and I don't have time to look for it because my tee time is here.
 
2012-01-01 07:01:46 PM  
Its not like we are sentencing people to death here and theres a risk of killing an innocent person.

These will be people guilty of something.

Let the courts deal with it as all those guilty people get rounded up and sent to undisclosed locations.

They can rot in an undisclosed location for as long as it takes for this to go through the courts like the other poster said.
 
2012-01-01 07:03:32 PM  

Ned Stark: so hes fine with assassinating americans but not with detaining them?


Well yea, you have an explicit right to challenge your detention. You don't have a right to be a terrorist in Yemen. It's not hard to understand.
 
2012-01-01 07:04:03 PM  

LordJiro:
Also, if the government really wanted to make you disappear, do you really think they'd care if it was legal or not?



segments would and segments wouldn't. governments are not monocultures and large portions are made up of bureaucrats who would make the decision whether to let you go or summarily execute you based on what the paperwork said.
 
2012-01-01 07:07:15 PM  
Well, this still isn't so cool.
 
2012-01-01 07:08:31 PM  
Most people won't get the danger until the authorities show up on their street with the "Collars of Obedience" Patriot Ties everyone must wear. By then it'll be far too late of course.

/does it come in brown?
 
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