Any news yet on the over/under before someone t-bones a car while exercising their new right?

I'm guessing it'll happen before the end of the day.

In Boston bicyclists already run red lights and police have a policy of not ticketing bicyclists for traffic violations.

If you want to get picky, bicyclists obey red lights 5% of the time, according to a local newspaper reporter who counted. But the ticket rate really is 0%.

1) Motorcycles have to stop first, they can't just blow through the stop sign. 2) Anyone who has ridden a motorcycle understands why this makes sense.

Many places have legislation to this effect. Motorcycles often don't trip stoplight sensors and so will be stuck at lights indefinitely.

Under legislation such as this, bikers can't blow through lights. They must stop first and wait and look for oncoming traffic; it's not as if they've impunity to disregard traffic signals.

Speaking as an every day motorcyclist, I support this action. Often are the times I'm coming back from work at night and have to make ridiculous J-turns or such because I can't trip a stoplight sensor. I also have to plan my left turns based on whether or not there's another car waiting or behind me that might trip the left-turn signal.

Sadly there are people that think this is strange.

Anyone who's ever bounced up and down like an idiot in a deserted interection on their motorcycle trying to trip the farking light sensor knows this is a welcome farking change to the law. Nothing to see here.

ZAZ: In Boston bicyclists already run red lights and police have a policy of not ticketing bicyclists for traffic violations.

If you want to get picky, bicyclists obey red lights 5% of the time, according to a local newspaper reporter who counted. But the ticket rate really is 0%.

Sounds like maybe that guy picked the wrong light. Theres no way it's that low overall.
Did his numbers include technically illegal stuff that everybody does in cars too, like turning right on red without coming to a complete stop? Or just driving straight through the light?

serial_crusher

The article is long gone from the newspaper site and I can't give exact figures and location. The reporter went where the complaints were, near Kenmore Square.

drew46n2: Anyone who's ever bounced up and down like an idiot in a deserted interection on their motorcycle trying to trip the farking light sensor knows this is a welcome farking change to the law. Nothing to see here.

Sounds like they need better detectors if that's really the case. The ones in Austin are sensitive enough to detect what little metal there is in my carbon fiber frame bike. If even a motorcycle cant trigger the ones in your town, they should replace them.

serial_crusher: drew46n2: Anyone who's ever bounced up and down like an idiot in a deserted interection on their motorcycle trying to trip the farking light sensor knows this is a welcome farking change to the law. Nothing to see here.

Sounds like they need better detectors if that's really the case. The ones in Austin are sensitive enough to detect what little metal there is in my carbon fiber frame bike. If even a motorcycle cant trigger the ones in your town, they should replace them.


I don't have a bike ATM, but I had this problem alot in Corpus Christ, TX.

Friskya: Any news yet on the over/under before someone t-bones a car while exercising their new right?

I'm guessing it'll happen before the end of the day.

came here to say this

also am confused
why isnt the other new law making the news??
The one where it is now legal to hit cyclists going the wrong way on a one way street?
Guess they were tired of the messengers downtown!!

CPT Ethanolic: 1) Motorcycles have to stop first, they can't just blow through the stop sign. 2) Anyone who has ridden a motorcycle understands why this makes sense.

Bingo. Misleading HL is misleading.

serial_crusher: drew46n2: Anyone who's ever bounced up and down like an idiot in a deserted interection on their motorcycle trying to trip the farking light sensor knows this is a welcome farking change to the law. Nothing to see here.

Sounds like they need better detectors if that's really the case. The ones in Austin are sensitive enough to detect what little metal there is in my carbon fiber frame bike. If even a motorcycle cant trigger the ones in your town, they should replace them.

I can imagine replacing those sensors isn't cheap. And, as one of those idiots who's had to bounce up and down at a deserted intersection at 2am, or hope another car comes along trying to trip the stupid sensor, I'm all for letting bikers go through the light.

I can imagine replacing those sensors isn't cheap.

In-pavement sensors cost a few thousand dollars, installed. Video sensors are cheaper. Some think video doesn't work well in snow.

TwistedIvory: Many places have legislation to this effect. Motorcycles often don't trip stoplight sensors and so will be stuck at lights indefinitely.

A lot of cyclists will stick a couple of neodymium magnets somewhere on the bottom of the frame for just that reason.

Bacontastesgood: How does bouncing do anything when these are inductive sensors? I bet they could have a different amplifier fitted for $200 including labor and work just fine for bikes

I would imagine the weather would be a factor in keeping these working. That is AFTER the expense of installing the improved sensors all over the place in a state that has the second worse economy in the nation.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Leaving the door open for a motorcycle to ignore red lights means that four wheeled cars should be able to ignore red lights as well.

Great. I want that law. Red means the other direction has right of way. You go through red, any collision is your fault. Most traffic signals are installed to help share right of way during peak traffic hours, not because of safety problems.

drew46n2: Anyone who's ever bounced up and down like an idiot in a deserted interection on their motorcycle trying to trip the farking light sensor knows this is a welcome farking change to the law. Nothing to see here.

Yeah, this. I don't even farking ride motorcycles and know that riders have a problem with some trip censors. Hell, I know of a trip censor that won't even trip for my dinky-ass car.