1) My sister can't eat gluten

2) Depression is 10x better than what she felt when she didn't know she had the disease.

3) "Penn State University" Hey guys, know what else causes depression?

4) The majority of places have gluten-free menu's easily available

5) Cousin-in-law actually got a restaurant to call a staff meeting about the gluten free menu's when they had no farking clue the menu existed before she tried to get one.

Oh no, we need to be able to feed our children with poisonous petrochemical food byproducts otherwise the earnings per share for McDonalds Corp will drop next quarter.

According to the story, people get depressed because of Celiac disease and having to follow a restricted diet. This has nothing to do with gluten-free foods themselves. Or children. 0/10 submitter.

A lady where I used to work came in on a regular basis harping about how she could only eat gluten free food because gluten made her ill. I'm not sure if she was just stupid, or she had gotten something mixed up, but she always ordered three bagels with no cream cheese.

I asked her once about why no cream cheese, and she told me to my face it was because she couldn't eat gluten, and glared at me like I was dumb.

If she had said lactose intolerant I would have understood, that actually made sense. But no, no cream cheese because of gluten.

/know people who really can't eat gluten
//feel so sorry for them

MadAzza: zippolight2002:

"Cousin-in-law"?

I'm a bit drunk. My cousin's wife.

Yeah, as has been pointed out, it's celiac disease and the resulting forced change in diet that causes the depression, not gluten free foods themselves.

/sister has it, she went undiagnosed for a long time, gluten free foods let her actually live a real life again
//I get a little peeved when people think gluten free is just some new food trend, some people need that shiat

Tabletop: Yeah, as has been pointed out, it's celiac disease and the resulting forced change in diet that causes the depression, not gluten free foods themselves.

/sister has it, she went undiagnosed for a long time, gluten free foods let her actually live a real life again
//I get a little peeved when people think gluten free is just some new food trend, some people need that shiat

Are you like... my clone or something?

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: A lady where I used to work came in on a regular basis harping about how she could only eat gluten free food because gluten made her ill. I'm not sure if she was just stupid, or she had gotten something mixed up, but she always ordered three bagels with no cream cheese.

I asked her once about why no cream cheese, and she told me to my face it was because she couldn't eat gluten, and glared at me like I was dumb.

If she had said lactose intolerant I would have understood, that actually made sense. But no, no cream cheese because of gluten.

/know people who really can't eat gluten
//feel so sorry for them

This kind of story makes me angry. I know people who really have to live on restricted diets due to serious medical issues, and they are forced to educate themselves. This woman, who can't even keep "gluten-intolerant" and "lactose-intolerant" straight, makes a mockery of people who are sincerely trying to minimize the impact diabetes, celiac's disease, or other medical disorders have on their lives.

zippolight2002: Tabletop: Yeah, as has been pointed out, it's celiac disease and the resulting forced change in diet that causes the depression, not gluten free foods themselves.

/sister has it, she went undiagnosed for a long time, gluten free foods let her actually live a real life again
//I get a little peeved when people think gluten free is just some new food trend, some people need that shiat

Are you like... my clone or something?

Probably not a clone. We could be brothers though, did your dad donate sperm?

This article is farking stupid. OF COURSE it's depressing not to be able to whatever you want, and having pay way more attention to your diet, pay more for your food, have less restaurant choice etc etc. But I just love how they don't mention how 'depressing' it is to have to deal with all the other issues related to Celiac disease if you DON'T modify your diet.

The motherfarking gluten-freeness of the diet is not the problem here, it's the underlying problem which necessitates it.

"Where their study falls short, researchers say, is understanding what comes first: disordered eating or depression."

And this common sense fail is why people get pissed off at academic types. With diabetes that might have more relevance, a depressed person eats more, gets heavier, is more likely to develop diabetes, and then is depressed when they can't have tasty cake any more. But feeling depressed has never been linked in any way to CAUSING Celiac disease, and it is immediately obvious why anyone faced with a strict dietary restriction would feel depressed by it.

Then there is this gem: "The results of their study could also have implications for other dietary illnesses and conditions like food allergies, diabetes and Crohn's disease."

GOSH you mean to say people don't like it when they can't eat whatever the hell they want to??? And this whole time I thought I lived in a country of ginormous fatasses, not because people love eating so goddamned much but because they just REALLY love buying enormous pants that can double as tents for small children and animals.

My father has Celiac's and dumb people make me angry too. It's a serious problem for real sufferers. He went undiagnosed for so long, he now has neuropathy in his feet and will be on medication for this all his life. He also has to undergo regular colonoscopies and has a horrendously increased risk for intestinal/colon cancer.

His wife has learned how to make delicious gluten free food. It's not that hard with some baking skills and a little research.

For some people this is a very real medical problem and those who treat gluten-free like a new health fad are doing a good job of desensitizing the general public to the seriousness of the disease.

After having ameobiotic dysentery from our tap water (in a ritzy neighborhood no less) I have found that I sometimes have trouble with gluten. Problem is, it's really hit and miss. Some days gluten does a number on me with bloating, gas, pain, lethargy, diarrhea ect.... Other days I feel perfectly fine. It seems cyclical, I'll go weeks with no problems, and then have problems for weeks even if I go "gluten free" during that time (although it helps lessen the symptoms usually). I've just dubbed them "attacks" for lack of a better term.

Can't afford to go to the doctor for a zillion tests so I'm following age old "If hurts, stop doing it!"

Trying some HCL tablets right now, as I occasionally have trouble digesting things fully, even completely gluten free items like veggies or steak. Seems to stop the bloating at least. I also have the gluten ease tablets for days when I know I'm going to be gluten loaded.

When I had the dysentery, one spot on my abdomen hurt above everything else. I can still feel it now, over 10 years later, when I have my "attacks".

Part of me still wonders if maybe I never got rid of the dysentery fully. You see, when they first diagnosed it, they needed 2 stool samples to catch it (this was full blown, lost weight look dead sick dysentery). They gave me a course of antibiotics and took a stool sample afterward. That came back clean and they said I was cured.

"But..." my 16 yr old mind said "...didn't it take you 2 tries to catch it the first time when I was *really* sick? How is 1 test going to tell you *anything* right now?"

Managed to convince my current doc to have me run a full set of samples to the lab last year. Came back with nothing. But I still wonder...

/csb
//but seriously, if anyone has advice I'm always happy to consider other avenues/theories and whatnot
///really tired of having this.

Yeah, my daughter was just diagnosed with Celiac disease. She was asymptomatic, but we caught it early. She doesn't really understand why we've had to change her diet yet, but doesn't complain too much. It's not a huge change for us as we tend to cook most of our meals from scratch anyway.

GF bread-like substances tend to be graded not by how good they are, but by how much they don't suck ass. It's like searching for the world's tallest dwarf.

Hester Prynne: My father has Celiac's and dumb people make me angry too. It's a serious problem for real sufferers. He went undiagnosed for so long, he now has neuropathy in his feet and will be on medication for this all his life. He also has to undergo regular colonoscopies and has a horrendously increased risk for intestinal/colon cancer.

His wife has learned how to make delicious gluten free food. It's not that hard with some baking skills and a little research.

For some people this is a very real medical problem and those who treat gluten-free like a new health fad are doing a good job of desensitizing the general public to the seriousness of the disease.

Being celiac makes it a bit inconvenient to eat things I haven't prepared. If gluten is paired with dairy I feel it for days.
I would so love to have a grilled sourdough and cheese.
People that fake allergies or make fun of others with them should DIAF.

BronyMedic: Goodfella: Oh no, we need to be able to feed our children with poisonous petrochemical food byproducts otherwise the earnings per share for McDonalds Corp will drop next quarter.

Can you translate that for everyone that doesn't speak "derp"?



Feed these chemicals to your family for a few months.

Then ask the same questions.

Enjoy, my friend.

My son is on a gluten free diet because of a mild allergy. I don't know about him, but the diet depresses me sometimes. He can't have birthday cake? He can't have pizza? Some people can't even have french fries, because the same fryer is usually used for breaded food. Gluten free beer is also pretty hard to find.

These would be my four basic food groups.

One word: pussies.

Goodfella: BronyMedic: Goodfella: Oh no, we need to be able to feed our children with poisonous petrochemical food byproducts otherwise the earnings per share for McDonalds Corp will drop next quarter.

Can you translate that for everyone that doesn't speak "derp"?



Feed these chemicals to your family for a few months.

Then ask the same questions.

Enjoy, my friend.

I have a friend that had been breaking out in a horrible rash and ended up at a doctor didn't know what it was, but put her on BP/cholestral meds that made her worse. (surprise)
I told her - It's your diet, it's pretty simple.
She had been eating spam and white bread sandwiches for comfort food, when she quit many of her health problems went away.
Common sense people, do you has it?

Tabletop: zippolight2002: Tabletop: Yeah, as has been pointed out, it's celiac disease and the resulting forced change in diet that causes the depression, not gluten free foods themselves.

/sister has it, she went undiagnosed for a long time, gluten free foods let her actually live a real life again
//I get a little peeved when people think gluten free is just some new food trend, some people need that shiat

Are you like... my clone or something?

Probably not a clone. We could be brothers though, did your dad donate sperm?

Why don't you ask your mom?

/lol, sorry couldn't resist
//Happy New Year!

Low Budget Dave: My son is on a gluten free diet because of a mild allergy. I don't know about him, but the diet depresses me sometimes. He can't have birthday cake? He can't have pizza? Some people can't even have french fries, because the same fryer is usually used for breaded food. Gluten free beer is also pretty hard to find.

These would be my four basic food groups.

There are recipes for cake that don't involve flours with gluten- even some with no flour at all. There are pizzas with GF crusts, and my sister informs me that some are pretty good. (My nephew has Celiac.) Why it works well with pizza dough but not regular bread is beyond me. The fries and beer are definitely a valid concern, though.

/tried a GF cake my sister made
//surprisingly yummy

In a study published in the December issue of Chronic Illness, researchers from Penn State University, Syracuse University and Drexel University analyzed the online answers of 177 American women who suffer from celiac disease

Wow. 177 "Online" answers. From American women no less. My scientific validity meter says "my reply is no".

heavymetal: ShadowDrgn: According to the story, people get depressed because of Celiac disease and having to follow a restricted diet. This has nothing to do with gluten-free foods themselves. Or children. 0/10 submitter.

THIS

The article is specifically talking about adult women and not kids, making the "precious snowflake" analogy totally irelevent to the article failmitter. Why not blame it on Obama too while you are at it? Would make just as much sense

Headlines don't have to make sense, and in many cases are greenlit for trollworthiness alone.

I was diagnosed with Celiac's in 2009.

People are liars. Things that are gluten free are gross.

I've never felt like 'a burden' when I go eat out, what kind of nonsense is that? Although my friends do taunt me. During otherwise normal conversations, if I'm right about something, they will say things like "You don't know what you're talking about, you can't even eat bread, how can we take you seriously".

A lot of conversations end with me losing, because I am unable to eat basic foods =(

I am also a bad Celiac, and my GI doctor scolds me. Because, honestly? fark that, I'm not abstaining from things like beer or pizza for the rest of my life.

In addition, FDA does not yet regulate the whole 'gluten free' thing. People put that shiat on everything. Sometimes, not listing wheat on the ingredient list means they throw 'gluten free' on it, when it still, in fact, is not gluten free. If you check out a lot of celiac support groups, there's always discussion about produects with 'hidden gluten'.

Most Celiac sufferers also have a sensitivity to Casein (Milk Protein). I have that as well (sucks~). Things like M&Ms and similar chocolate products, list themselves as 'gluten free', but that doesn't help people with, you know, the actual disease that made 'gluten free' start this whole diet fad.

profplump: "Tabletop: I get a little peeved when people think gluten free is just some new food trend, some people need that shiat"

I can totally understand that. And I sympathize -- having someone belittle your actual condition/disability/etc. is a genuine problem for Celiac's and many other things.

But you have to understand that for every actual Celiac-affected person there are a number of "self-diagnosed" posers farking it up for everyone else, so it's easy even for generally sympathetic people to become cynical. Let alone in an environment like Fark...

There is Celiac, there is wheat allergy, and then there are the other 98% who claim that their health improved so much when they quit gluten that rainbows practically shoot out their asses. Really, it's not removing gluten that does it. What they're really quitting is all of the junk food out there that has trace amounts of gluten in it. Along with that junk food goes a lot of processed sugars, starches, and saturated fats. Wheat, rye, barley... they're all good for the average person without Celiac or a true wheat allergy, just as long as they don't pave their insides with too much of any kind of food, it shouldn't negatively impact their health.

I understand the poser phenomenon all too well. I have problems with my own disability and the many f**kwits who self-diagnose, as well as the new-age "doctors" shilling miracle treatments and far-out theories that aren't doing anyone who actually has it any favours. Real studies and evidence are getting lost amongst it all. The Fark environment was none-too-kind in a recent thread on a related condition, in which both were mentioned.

SoxSweepAgain:
I've been cooking or waiting at restaurants for years and this sudden "gluten" thing has me convinced that three quarters of those who claim "gluten intolerance" are faking it.

Also, this ^^^^.

It angers me too, because a lot are. I know some who do it just as a healthy diet which is cool, but I hate them, because when they want something delicious (WHICH ALSO MEANS FULL OF GLUTEN), it doesn't cause them pain.

Honestly, I always just thought I had a sensitive stomach. After my diagnosis, I was way better. Less pain regularly, and I have a lot of celiac-related problems (skin and joint issues). I had a lot of immune problems too (I used to get sick regularly), which got waaaayyy better once I got on a (mostly) GF diet.

But yes. Most of those people are liars. And I also hate them. Test them by adding bread crumbs to their meal, and see if they notice.

Todashy: I was diagnosed with celiac in October. It has been an incredibly challenging experience. I am 28 and literally had to relearn how to eat. Gluten is hidden everywhere. I am still learning (it takes a while), and trust me, it is no easy thing to deal with at first.

You might want to avoid xantham gum and other binding agents.
It does get easier.

a few thoughts:

1) can we retire "precious snowflake" for 2012? please? it's the surest sign of a trolling headline.

2) @cuzsis --- you grew up in a ritzy neighborhood, and now you can't afford medical care? what's wrong with this farking country?

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: she always ordered three bagels with no cream cheese.

3) and -- who has three bagels for breakfast? fatty mcfatterson, that's who.

This study makes no sense. People on a gluten free diet are usually very allergic to gluten. So eating it would cause greater depression. Have they considered that maybe not being able to eat the foods everyone else does causes some people to feel alienated and depressed?

rev. dave: This study makes no sense. People on a gluten free diet are usually very allergic to gluten. So eating it would cause greater depression. Have they considered that maybe not being able to eat the foods everyone else does causes some people to feel alienated and depressed?

TFA had a bs angle based on an online survey conducted by Penn State - the bastion of credibility. Trollmitter made it worse with the headline.
Welcome to Fark.

First of all, the condition is called "Celiac Disease" - there is no possessive. It was not named after some guy called Celiac. It is a serious autoimmune disorder. Just because you are a neurotic attention-seeking female that gets of squirt of diarrhea now and then does NOT necessarily mean that you have this condition.

Now, as to the article - small sample size and self-reporting - meh. Correlation does not equal causation - meh. Chronic disease can make you depressed anyway. That being said, there may be a small bit of plausibility that might warrant more research simply because eating certain starchy foods tends to increase your serotonin levels.

This story had nothing to do with children - so why is subby whining about snowflakes?

SoxSweepAgain:
How can you have Celiac and be asymptomatic?

/Not being a jerk, just asking.

The main testing they do for it is antibody based. You can have the antibody (endomysial antibody EmA (new window)) and not have outward symptoms. My daughter has a number of other issues and Celiac disease comes along for the ride in 10% of those with her issues.

you can buy rice or corn pasta whose taste and texture is the same as, if not better, than wheat pasta.

GF bread isn't as great, unless you toast it.

This story brought to you by the Wheat Council.

Dadoody: The Kallikak Family: A Study in the Heredity of Feeble-Mindedness was a 1912 book by the American psychologist and eugenicist Henry H. Goddard. The work was an extended case study of Goddard's for the inheritance of "feeble-mindedness," a general category referring to a variety of mental disabilities including mental retardation, learning disabilities, and mental illness. Goddard concluded that a variety of mental traits were hereditary and society should limit reproduction by people possessing these traits.

from your lips to all ears, bunkie. 7 billion gnawing away at earth daily is a tall order. we are way overdue to be more effective stewards of our planet.

need training and a license to drive a motor vehicle on public thoroughfares, sell real estate or cut hair. allowing reproduction between genetic inferiors breeds humans that suffer and/or puts unfair burden upon caregivers and taxpayers.

allowing reproduction between only the best candidates will benefit all mankind. people need to wake up and make policy. it's obvious that swimming in a sea of irresponsible cognitive dissonance is not working.