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(Some TV Guy)   Man with military grade explosives stopped from boarding a United Flight out of Midland, TX. Is it time to panic yet?   (ww2.cox.com) divider line 130
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2012-01-01 01:15:57 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
Image of the confiscated explosive in its original wrapping
Military grade indeed!
 
2012-01-01 01:20:01 AM  
Now that the airplanes are secure the terrorists are going to start hitting other crowded, unsecured places. Specifically, titty bars, whore houses, and Starbucks.
 
2012-01-01 01:21:41 AM  

erewhon: Anyways, no, not time to panic, I can tell you from grim experience that they could readily spot 10 year old C4 residue 10 years ago. PETN detection I think they added recently.


I am pretty sure they have it now... Without going into too many details, I was once asked if I had "spilled cologne or perfume on my carry-on recently?" The person running the equipment and I both knew that was not the case, but I can only imagine how many people with military backpacks they had going through that small regional airport outside of a base with large demolition ranges.
 
2012-01-01 01:24:02 AM  

DrBenway: lenfromak: It's just over 300 miles between Midland and DFW. Why wouldn't the dumb bugger simply drive, for all the time he'd have to wait in the airport? Unless someone was trying to make a point, or test the system. Just saying.

DFW being a major hub, it's not unlikely that he was going on from there to somewhere else. Not a lot of direct flights around the country out of Midland, you know?


But, TFA stated that he was only going to DFW, with no mention of a further flight.
 
2012-01-01 01:29:01 AM  

bmwericus: Question is, even if he was in military, how the heck did he get a brick or more of C4 off base? And why, of course.


It is actually not too hard. One of my platoon commanders once forgot that he had a primed safety shot in his pocket until after the range had been shut down.

(the safety shot is a small charge that the person in command has on hand to destroy any of the other charges that may have only partially detonated. Usually it is a pound of TNT or C4)

A standard block of C4 is 1"x2"x7" and weighs about 1.25lbs, so if you are being sloppy, you can forget it in a pocket or backpack pretty easily.
 
2012-01-01 01:32:42 AM  

wildcardjack: Now that the airplanes are secure the terrorists are going to start hitting other crowded, unsecured places. Specifically, titty bars, whore houses, and Starbucks.


Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
 
2012-01-01 01:33:02 AM  

The WindowLicker: bmwericus: Question is, even if he was in military, how the heck did he get a brick or more of C4 off base? And why, of course.

It is actually not too hard. One of my platoon commanders once forgot that he had a primed safety shot in his pocket until after the range had been shut down.

(the safety shot is a small charge that the person in command has on hand to destroy any of the other charges that may have only partially detonated. Usually it is a pound of TNT or C4)

A standard block of C4 is 1"x2"x7" and weighs about 1.25lbs, so if you are being sloppy, you can forget it in a pocket or backpack pretty easily.


That small? I carry tons of crap in my cargo pants most of the time, I'd easily miss that.
 
2012-01-01 01:36:36 AM  
Can't believe the TSA finally caught one!
 
2012-01-01 01:41:41 AM  
Something here smells of BS to me. Here we have a guy trying to get explosives on an airplane yet he's nothing but a shadow in TFA. No name, no age, no ethnicity, not what he was wearing.... absolutely zero descriptive information. You would also think that it would be splashed all over the major news agencies. I'm only seeing this one report from some backwater hick town. It just don't smell right.

/and I know about not smelling right
 
2012-01-01 01:44:06 AM  
Lessee..."a man,"...."no other information available,"....."being held somewhere,"......

That's the lamest farking excuse for a scare piece I ever read.

Probably some guy from the oil fields who forgot where he stuck some plastic, or a false flag.
 
2012-01-01 01:44:32 AM  

Asa Phelps: erewhon: Asa Phelps: What the article says - twice - is "explosives in military-grade wrapping".

Yeah, exactly WTF is meant by that? It was a CO2 bomb in OD green shrink wrap?

Anyways, no, not time to panic, I can tell you from grim experience that they could readily spot 10 year old C4 residue 10 years ago. PETN detection I think they added recently.

Working as i do for a defense contractor, the phrase "military grade" means increasingly less to me.

Some of the stuff the military has is the best possible item. A lot of it is consumerish. Some of it is stone-age. A little of it is a tragic result of group think.


/ Probably OD Green or brown plastic shrink, heat sealed with yellow block print about the size of a package of Philadelphia cream cheese.......maybe.
 
2012-01-01 01:44:42 AM  

lenfromak: DrBenway: lenfromak: It's just over 300 miles between Midland and DFW. Why wouldn't the dumb bugger simply drive, for all the time he'd have to wait in the airport? Unless someone was trying to make a point, or test the system. Just saying.

DFW being a major hub, it's not unlikely that he was going on from there to somewhere else. Not a lot of direct flights around the country out of Midland, you know?

But, TFA stated that he was only going to DFW, with no mention of a further flight.


The article leaves out many details. Do you think that excludes all further possibilities beyond what's in the article, too?
 
2012-01-01 01:46:48 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: [media.screened.com image 640x360]


niiice

+1 for you
 
2012-01-01 01:47:58 AM  

UsikFark: JohnAnnArbor: Was there a blasting cap or initiator or something to actually set them off? If not, it's still not good, but it's now OMG WHAT'S HAPPENING bad.

Explosives become unstable over time, which is a Bad Thing. That also means they "stink" to the detectors, so they might get caught on the ground. Even without a blasting cap he could probably set it off using a Finux laptop with a serial port.


Woe-to-you
 
2012-01-01 01:50:12 AM  

pyrotek85: That small? I carry tons of crap in my cargo pants most of the time, I'd easily miss that.


Yep. M112 block is the most common form of C4 I ran into. Your average satchel charge comes with 16 of them crammed in with some other random boosters and stuff. But yes, if you actually bust out the individual sticks, they are not that big.
 
2012-01-01 02:04:19 AM  

Aleph: UsikFark: JohnAnnArbor: Was there a blasting cap or initiator or something to actually set them off? If not, it's still not good, but it's now OMG WHAT'S HAPPENING bad.

Explosives become unstable over time, which is a Bad Thing. That also means they "stink" to the detectors, so they might get caught on the ground. Even without a blasting cap he could probably set it off using a Finux laptop with a serial port.

Woe-to-you


Woe-to-hice
 
2012-01-01 02:05:31 AM  

The WindowLicker: Without going into too many details, I was once asked if I had "spilled cologne or perfume on my carry-on recently?"


Eh...you, sir, are an outstanding guesser. My charlie bag followed me home from Germany, once replete with various goodies, it was my favorite medium sized carryon as a civilian - tough canvas, good zippers, relatively indestructable, and permanently impregnated with every nitrate known to man. Alas, in the mid 90s it suddenly became anathema to airlines and I had to retire it.
 
2012-01-01 02:08:31 AM  

lenfromak: It's just over 300 miles between Midland and DFW. Why wouldn't the dumb bugger simply drive, for all the time he'd have to wait in the airport? Unless someone was trying to make a point, or test the system. Just saying.


Assuming it's a terrorist type :

If he drives to DFW airport, then he can pull up and be outside the security screening. To get in, he has to get past all the detectors and stuff.

If he files in, he's already past all the detectors and stuff. He'll get off the plane and be inside the perimeter.

It looks like he thought it would be easier to get past security in Midland than at DFW, and by doing that, he would then be able to get inside the security gates at DFW.

Obviously, it didn't work.

Assuming it's not a terrorist type :
Some idiot had some kind of explosives in a bag and forgot about them or whatever, until he got a sudden reminder. In that case, it's not really relevant which airport he was at, or going to fly to, he's just an idiot who did something stupid.
 
2012-01-01 02:22:05 AM  
Trey Scott Atwater of Hope Mills, North Carolina, please pick up the white courtesy phone - a party is waiting to meet you...
 
2012-01-01 02:22:09 AM  
So, it's bad that he's using military grade explosives to blow up the plane. As opposed to what? The civilian explosives that would only slightly less blow up the plane?
 
2012-01-01 02:32:58 AM  
s/charlie/goodie

what I get for posting at 1am.
 
2012-01-01 03:02:24 AM  
Military grade wrapper.....so he uses ammo cans as luggage?
 
2012-01-01 03:05:00 AM  
I shall now perform my retroactive usual derp dance and retroactively cause the thread to be populated by the usual derp. By usual I mean the damned if you do, damned if you don't level of military grade stupidity.
 
2012-01-01 03:05:52 AM  

gaslight: So, it's bad that he's using military grade explosives to blow up the plane. As opposed to what? The civilian explosives that would only slightly less blow up the plane?


I remember my grandpa telling me stories about how when he lived on a farm, he would sometimes have to go into town and buy quarter sticks of tnt to take back out to blow up stumps on his property.

I have no idea how true that is, or how common it was, or if you can even still do that, or how much paperwork now you need to be able to purchase it. and I'm to scared to google it on my home computer
 
2012-01-01 03:35:54 AM  

Beaver1224: Sleeping Monkey: By republican deduction, I can only conclude that all Texans are terrorists and we should immediately stop them from trying to infiltrate our government.

Yeah, but if that rule is put in place, they'll just go back to being from Connecticut.


You leave us out of this! George W. Bush is from Texas and that's all there is to it!

/move along
//nothing to see here
 
2012-01-01 03:41:02 AM  
Is it time to panic yet?

Only if you're Republican or a mother or otherwise spend your entire life in fear?
 
2012-01-01 03:43:29 AM  

oldtaku: Is it time to panic yet?
Only if you're Republican or a mother or otherwise spend your entire life in fear?


Sorry, forgot 'or a filthy hippie thinking it might be a wifi access point or meat.'
 
2012-01-01 03:49:03 AM  
The man in question:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-01 03:56:28 AM  
Meh.
He was just going to blast some deer.
 
2012-01-01 04:05:07 AM  
Okay...so the last time something like this happened with the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber, we had "removing shoes" and "pat downs" by the TSA at airports.

Now that this one was a military so they'd have to do something like...check every military person that goes through? In case they are carrying military grade bombs?

The TSA taking on the United States Armed forces... Irresistible force meets unmovable object.

This should get good.

/grabs popcorn
 
2012-01-01 04:08:55 AM  
Wow! Talk about bad luck.
 
2012-01-01 04:25:27 AM  
Remember WWII, original cast of planes , is recreated in Midland/Odessa every fall. Probably Oil Field trash forgot he had it. It is the Permian Basin after all.
 
2012-01-01 04:38:39 AM  

Pharque-it: Meh.
He was just going to blast some deer.


It's a lot easier to hunt with big treble hooks baited with apples and peanut butter using steel leader hung from a tree limb.

/sort of like coyote fishing, only with different bait
 
2012-01-01 04:43:24 AM  

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Midland International Airport?

Huh?


I know, I never got that either. There's not a single thing about that area that makes it "international" unless you count the # of authentic Mexican places to eat at. The area is a shiat-hole and I wouldn't wish my worse enemy to live there. Thank god I was there for only a few months (I fell in love/got married last april to a guy from there). Austin is a hell of a lot more "international" than that shiathole known as Midland!
 
2012-01-01 04:49:45 AM  

Captain James T. Smirk: Beaver1224: Sleeping Monkey: By republican deduction, I can only conclude that all Texans are terrorists and we should immediately stop them from trying to infiltrate our government.

Yeah, but if that rule is put in place, they'll just go back to being from Connecticut.

You leave us out of this! George W. Bush is from Texas and that's all there is to it!

/move along
//nothing to see here


I used to get a nice, long chuckle each time I passed by his (I think it's George jr) boyhood home in downtown Midland. NOTHING/No one coming out of the Midland/Odessa area should have great power, lol! Those guys are farking nuts out there. Don't blame all of the screwy behaviors of the Bush clan on ALL Texans, lol.

/Not born in Texas, but got here as soon as I could!
 
2012-01-01 04:55:00 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Um, software doesn't work that way. You buy it and it is yours


huh ?
 
2012-01-01 05:01:22 AM  

Slartibartfaster: TheGreatGazoo: Um, software doesn't work that way. You buy it and it is yours

huh ?


Yeah, not according to most EULAs. If I put my copy of photoshop on more than 2 computers (even if they're all mine) Adobe could sue my ass.

/EULAs are evil.
 
2012-01-01 06:13:40 AM  

UsikFark: Aleph: UsikFark: JohnAnnArbor: Was there a blasting cap or initiator or something to actually set them off? If not, it's still not good, but it's now OMG WHAT'S HAPPENING bad.

Explosives become unstable over time, which is a Bad Thing. That also means they "stink" to the detectors, so they might get caught on the ground. Even without a blasting cap he could probably set it off using a Finux laptop with a serial port.

Woe-to-you

Woe-to-hice


hmmm [googles] Cryptonomic? Haven't read it, is it good?
 
2012-01-01 06:31:59 AM  

Beaver1224: Sleeping Monkey: By republican deduction, I can only conclude that all Texans are terrorists and we should immediately stop them from trying to infiltrate our government.

Yeah, but if that rule is put in place, they'll just go back to being from Connecticut.


Thanks, that made me laugh, and I need a laugh right now. Got home from a party a hour or so ago and found my front steps awash with vomit, beer bottles and a guy passed out holding a half full bottle of Jacquin's Crème de menthe. God damned Mummers.
 
2012-01-01 07:03:41 AM  
Jamieboy
Thanks, that made me laugh, and I need a laugh right now. Got home from a party a hour or so ago and found my front steps awash with vomit, beer bottles and a guy passed out holding a half full bottle of Jacquin's Crème de menthe. God damned Mummers.


That's what you get for allowing a bunch of damn Mormons to party at your place while you're gone.

/still drunk & plan to stay that way.
 
2012-01-01 07:15:15 AM  

erewhon: Asa Phelps: A little of it is a tragic result of group think.

Also a slave to the MIC.

We worked on a tragic bail-out once. There was a project - I assume it's still classified since we haven't been told otherwise and I haven't seen it on the net - that was ab initio a really nice idea. The sort of thing you see and say wow, I could see that being really useful for the group that owned the project. Not so much for Willy Warfighter, but it was targeted for a special group that had a specific use for it.

And apparently, it started off well.

Then it started. First, the original project owner made the mistake of trying to add budget funds by expanding the target audience - a foolish error, since it took at least SOME training to use this thing without getting yourself killed. Anyways, once it was let outside the secure fencing under the concept "...and other groups as necessary" it began to...grow.

The non-special brass now owned a piece of it. And they all wanted their names on the pie. So it gained major armament. And then went from a somewhat silent electric motor to gas, to diesel. And tripled in size. And gained a turret. And autonav. And more. It just wouldn't quit growing. Before you knew it, it was a nightmare, the thing had dragged on forever and the initial second tiers were going bankrupt due to the scope changes that their contracts foolishly didn't cover.

We got dragged in as the "guys that bail out f...d up spec op projects" and were assigned the electronics, at which point we discovered that the thing had been architected by high school students on crack or something. The basic guts of the thing were so very badly conceived that they weren't salvageable. I wish I could tell you the details. Suffice it to say, no redundancy at all. Not in hardware, not in software. One missed bit in a command stream EVAR and the whole thing was permanently in the toilet until you rebooted the system, which was an inevitability given that the hardware was RS232, run t ...


And the Bradley is still a piece of shiat.
 
2012-01-01 07:37:43 AM  

Deathfrogg: And the Bradley is still a piece of shiat.


Yeah, think 'scuba dpv' meets "judge dredd". I imagine it was firing torpedoes before it finally died.
 
2012-01-01 07:50:16 AM  

Sleeping Monkey: By republican deduction, I can only conclude that all Texans are terrorists and we should immediately stop them from trying to infiltrate our government.


Let's just move that border fence a little farther north and re-route I-10.
 
2012-01-01 07:51:33 AM  

NFA: Image of the confiscated explosive in its original wrapping

Military grade indeed!

4.bp.blogspot.com

This.

I tried to post a Taco Bell burrito in full camouflage but it was impossible to see.

Actually all the HW Bush kids are products of Midland public schools in part.
 
2012-01-01 08:11:06 AM  
Taking bets that because the race of the individual was not mentioned, They will be found to be something other than white.
 
2012-01-01 08:17:55 AM  
Since we are talking Midland the bean burritos must be from Alsup.
 
2012-01-01 08:20:47 AM  
Depends. Was he brown and have a lot of Z's and/or Q's in his name?
 
2012-01-01 08:40:52 AM  

kyrg: Taking bets that because the race of the individual was not mentioned, They will be found to be something other than white.


...because the librul media always makes a point of singling out the white man, who can't get a break. Did I get that right?
 
2012-01-01 08:54:43 AM  
Trey Scott Atwater.

Born in Midland,TX on 2/9/81. Mother is Bonnie Jean Atwater. Grandparents Howard and Elda.

Hmm, tough call on brown factor.
 
2012-01-01 08:54:57 AM  
Gyrfalcon:
UsikFark: KidneyStone: 12349876: KidneyStone: Let's see, explosives, New Years Eve...nah, the turrsts would never want to kick off a new year with a plane full of people being sprayed all over the sky

i really hope it turns out to be nothing

The trolls will have to break out the herp derp early for the new year if it's a white guy.

Like McVeigh?

lone nut theory.

You know who else only had a lone nut?


Lance Armstrong?
 
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