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(The New York Times) Obvious Those organic, small farm, free-range tomatoes you just paid $7.99 a pound for? Yeah, about those   (nytimes.com) divider line 209
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2011-12-31 12:42:28 PM
It was never not a fallacy to believe that "organic" and "small local farm" necessarily go hand-in-hand.

I am, in fact, pretty sure that the farmers who started the trend envisioned growing the business to the industrial scale.
 
2011-12-31 12:43:14 PM
Gee subby, I'll never view this fascinating trolling article because I won't sign in to NYT or allow cookies.
I wouldn't pay that much for tomatoes anyhow.
 
2011-12-31 01:58:21 PM
I just love the whole Organic/free-range/small-farm movement. "Yeah, man... it's the gummint! They got the pollution all over us now - it's in our air, in our water, in our land... It's killing us all, and Americans are sick and fat because everything is so polluted! But whoa, dude, buy these delicious veggies that were grown in the same soil, water and air as the others! We used a different fertilizer, so it's TOTALLY not contaminated with the same things as the general food supply."

America has the world's safest food supply. For us, it's about quality, not safety. If you want the highest quality, eat in-season foods from producers close to you. The less time it has to travel the higher quality it will be. But the "Organic" and "Free-Range" labels are marketing tools, Nothing more.
 
2011-12-31 02:17:40 PM
"Organic" = fertilized with shiat.
 
2011-12-31 02:18:17 PM
Idk why but I suddenly am reminded of all the signs I see when driving from socal to norcal on the 5.

"stop the government created drought"

"stop dumping in our water supply, you eat what we grow"

"Nancy pelosi is corrupt"

Etc
 
2011-12-31 02:19:45 PM
I go out of my way to buy non-"organic."
 
2011-12-31 02:20:28 PM
Blah blah blah blah BUY LOCAL blah blah blah blah

Organic matters less than where it was grown. know your farmer, it's easy! they love to talk about their crops, or if you don't care they will just sell you your produce and you can go about your business.

This means you have to buy in season stuff, but get used to it. This or we keep killing the planet trucking food halfway across the world.
 
2011-12-31 02:21:11 PM
There are a lot of things that are organic or all-natural that I wouldn't ever consider eating, much less pay extra for. I'm not sure if it's still true, but for a long time the only organic farms that could survive were directly downwind from traditional farms. Probably a coincidence.
 
2011-12-31 02:21:39 PM
I don't know why people like organic food. It's worse for the environment, costs more and tastes worse. Further, if organic farming were employed worldwide, billions of people would starve.
 
2011-12-31 02:21:48 PM
i can take a shiat in a box and mark it organic, then all you have is an organic piece of shiat
 
2011-12-31 02:21:55 PM
buyer beware. In SoCal, the "organic" chicken is factory raised but fed "organic" feed. Now you have to look for the "free range" label on your organic meat.
 
2011-12-31 02:22:22 PM
login required? no thanks
 
2011-12-31 02:22:33 PM
I heard that in order to be officially labelled as organic, they must be raised on a steady diet of bean sprouts, evian bottled water and sleep in nests made of lesbian armpit hair. Well, that's what I heard...
 
2011-12-31 02:22:43 PM
ukexpat: "Organic" = fertilized with shiat.

==============

Just like 5,000+ years of farming

/better than ddt, alar, etc
 
2011-12-31 02:23:45 PM
Thanks to a major in chemistry, "organic" means something totally different to me.
 
2011-12-31 02:23:55 PM
Those must be some kick-ass tomatoes.
 
2011-12-31 02:24:16 PM
Free-range tomatoes are better because they're allowed to run around the garden, picking up advice from other vegetables on how to be flavorful.
 
2011-12-31 02:24:25 PM
Well, duh.

I occasionally pay $5/lb to get heirloom tomatoes... from a stand at the farmer's market... with the varieties named... so I can taste test them and decide what to grow.

I was rather bemused to see $9/lb "heirloom tomatoes" (don't need to know WHICH heirloom, they're heirloom, that's totes important for eating) at the store last year.
 
2011-12-31 02:24:49 PM
Organic is fine. Non-GMO is ideal.
 
2011-12-31 02:24:50 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

Organic produce implies inorganic produce
 
2011-12-31 02:24:56 PM
So Mexico is farking up organic growing too.

Gee thats a surprise.
 
2011-12-31 02:24:58 PM
Grow it yourself or buy from neighbors or friends. That's how sh*t should work.
 
2011-12-31 02:25:13 PM
I'm more than willing to pay $7.99 a pound if they are "orgasmic" tomatoes.
 
2011-12-31 02:25:13 PM
gimmegimme: I don't know why people like organic food. It's worse for the environment, costs more and tastes worse. Further, if organic farming were employed worldwide, billions of people would starve.

the_chief: I go out of my way to buy non-"organic."

Even more amusing than the marketers ripping off hippies with their "organic" products are those with absolutely no idea what they are talking about offering up excellent knee-jerk reactions like these.
 
2011-12-31 02:25:15 PM
haywatchthis: i can take a shiat in a box and mark it organic, then all you have is an organic piece of shiat

Doubtful. If you tested your shiat I am guessing there would be pesticides in it.
 
2011-12-31 02:25:21 PM
I prefer synthetic produce. I want my tomatoes coming out of a 3d printer!
 
2011-12-31 02:25:35 PM
www.thebiographychannel.co.uk

and

lab.osixs.org
 
2011-12-31 02:26:23 PM
I don't buy them, nickel, I GROW THEM. Then I can, freeze, dehydrate, juice, and preserve them, stunod. Take your 7.99$ a pound and CONTEMPORIZE, MANNNN
 
2011-12-31 02:26:50 PM
Organic is the Monster Cables of food.
 
2011-12-31 02:27:02 PM
Is my pole-and-line caught trout still legit?
 
2011-12-31 02:27:10 PM
darkvstar: Now you have to look for the "free range" label on your organic meat.

That way you know that it grew by eating bugs and not corn.
 
2011-12-31 02:27:45 PM
naveline: I don't buy them, nickel, I GROW THEM. Then I can, freeze, dehydrate, juice, and preserve them, stunod. Take your 7.99$ a pound and CONTEMPORIZE, MANNNN

And by the way, I did this on the fire escape in downtown Baltimore for 8 years before I had a Tomato Village to play Italian Broad in. . . .
 
2011-12-31 02:27:51 PM
I can sell my my
tomatoes for that much to yuppies?
I'm doing it wrong
 
2011-12-31 02:28:06 PM
Eating what is in season should be just as important to these people, if they had half a brain....
 
2011-12-31 02:28:09 PM
Donnchadha: [imgs.xkcd.com image 640x426]

Organic produce implies inorganic produce


Can someone explain this for the uneducated masses (like myself)?
 
2011-12-31 02:28:17 PM
I only eat free range veal.
 
2011-12-31 02:28:51 PM
If you have the time, inclination, and property I highly recommend growing your own.
 
2011-12-31 02:28:51 PM
Free range tomatoes?

Would these by chance be killer tomatoes?
 
2011-12-31 02:29:22 PM
I usually grow up to 10 plants outdoors. This year's Roma, Celebrity and Dark Prince crops were harvesting by the bucket full. I'm still working on the preserves. People buy tomatoes?
 
2011-12-31 02:30:06 PM
Pointy Tail of Satan: Thanks to a major in chemistry, "organic" means something totally different to me.

My wife gets annoyed because, yes, I DO have to point that out every time we pass the "organic foods" section. In unrelated news, I don't have to go grocery shopping with her anymore.

/Mission accomplished
 
2011-12-31 02:30:25 PM
I saw "organic salt" on the shelf once. Laughed my ass off. I don't think anyone else got the joke.

/And yes, I know about the different connotations of the word "organic"
 
2011-12-31 02:30:43 PM
naveline: I don't buy them, nickel, I GROW THEM. Then I can, freeze, dehydrate, juice, and preserve them, stunod. Take your 7.99$ a pound and CONTEMPORIZE, MANNNN

Seriously, I get a year's worth of tomatoes for $7.99. And I eat them at just about every meal.

Also, basil and pot grow really well mixed in between the tomatoes.
 
2011-12-31 02:30:51 PM
I'll pay good money for food that is harvested by people who don't stick their hands up their arses then handle the food.
 
2011-12-31 02:31:44 PM
Anyone have a working definition of "organic"?
 
2011-12-31 02:33:34 PM
sirgrim: I usually grow up to 10 plants outdoors. This year's Roma, Celebrity and Dark Prince crops were harvesting by the bucket full. I'm still working on the preserves. People buy tomatoes?

Some people got blight from plants that someone else brought in to the shared garden space.

/not happening this year
//it was a nice gesture last year - gave them to us for free - should've just said no dammit
///it's possible they also composted blight plants from last year since no one knew what they were doing
 
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2011-12-31 02:33:56 PM
tl;dr

/grows own tomatoes
 
2011-12-31 02:35:08 PM
Asa Phelps:
I am, in fact, pretty sure that the farmers who started the trend envisioned growing the business to the industrial scale.


Of course they did. It's just the latest dietary fad.
 
2011-12-31 02:35:40 PM
Pointy Tail of Satan: Thanks to a major in chemistry, "organic" means something totally different to me.

This, though I wasn't a chem major.

I've become convinced neither "organic" or "local" is smart or sustainable. I really don't care that my asparagus is grown in Peru; it's still gonna taste delicious, and make my pee stink.
 
2011-12-31 02:36:39 PM
Considering the NY Times is Free Trade Communist Globalist like the other Democrat/GOP NeoCon/NearlyCom media...you will probably see a lot of articles going against Organic Farming

Reality is that most of the food Americans now eat is grown in 3d World Crapholes like Communist China and Latin America. This organic farm in Mexico is 1000 X more safer than what most Americans will eat from Latin America

Most Americans do not realize that the vast majority of food they eat is from overseas. Most US agri production is shipped to foreign countries.

Even with Organic foods coming from other nations....you still are more likely to have an American organic product than a corporate farm product

Free Trade Communist Globalists hate Organic and Local Farms. They know once more people purchase those products...the costs go down and the McFood Corporations will lose.
 
2011-12-31 02:37:07 PM
SoCalSurfer: Idk why but I suddenly am reminded of all the signs I see when driving from socal to norcal on the 5.

"stop the government created drought"

"stop dumping in our water supply, you eat what we grow"

"Nancy pelosi is corrupt"

Etc


All those farms that you see while driving up the 5 or the 99 are not owned by some family farmer wearing denim overalls, they're owned by corporations. These are the kind of farms that refuse to pay their immigrant pickers an extra ten cents per flat, even though it would make the difference between the pickers feeding their families or not. By and large, corporate agriculture would gladly poison your family if it meant a few extra bucks on their bottom line. Oh, but they'll still show advertisements of happy cows grazing on beautiful fields of flowers.
 
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