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(LA Times)   Today's big issue: should the homeless be allowed to watch internet porn at the library?   (opinion.latimes.com) divider line 107
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2011-12-30 09:22:01 PM
Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.


Nice library there in Eugene
farm8.staticflickr.com

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke
 
2011-12-30 09:22:55 PM
An alarming number of homeless folks are vets. Maybe they should add a porn viewing room in the VA hospital.
 
2011-12-30 09:25:08 PM
Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.


That's a totally rational solution to the problem, and should immediately be adopted by everyone with such a concern.
 
2011-12-30 09:26:50 PM
rwfan: [checks profile] Oh, you live in Alaska. I bet you are really, really curious.

Hey dude, I was just wondering what motivates you to do something so socially unacceptable, not hitting on you. I'm going with "uncontrolled addiction" in your case. Thanks for the response :-)
 
2011-12-30 09:27:33 PM
In the future, libraries will employ jizz-moppers.
 
2011-12-30 09:28:18 PM
Lunchlady: I agree with you: Don't give em the luxury of free porn on a high speed comp, after all this way of life is what they wanted. If porn is what they want they need to get a farkin job, home, and comp with intraweb access.

Intraweb?

Asking a lot for a homeless guy to set up a LAN.


Hey, McDs goes through thousands of kids in that rotten establishment every month, they have a horrible turnover, Im sure anyone with a pulse can walk in and get a job at any given time. Wouldn't it be lovely having a wino ask you if you would like to have fries with that, or perhaps two fingers of what freddie has under his coat over on the grill over there,,,,
 
2011-12-30 09:28:58 PM
Most decent hotels have rooms with computers with internet access. You don't even need a room key. Or go to any college. Either of those are easier to find than a library in my area.
 
2011-12-30 09:29:22 PM
Note to self: If you need to use a library computer, wear latex gloves.
 
2011-12-30 09:30:03 PM
jobskee: In the future, libraries will employ jizz-moppers.


Already covered it
 
2011-12-30 09:30:41 PM
craxyd: jobskee: In the future, libraries will employ jizz-moppers.


Already covered it


Too lazy to read earlier posts.
 
2011-12-30 09:32:22 PM
jobskee: In the future, libraries will employ jizz-moppers.

Excellent, now we have a job plan for the janitors who become unemployed after Newt makes poor children clean the schools.
 
2011-12-30 09:33:51 PM
gadian: rwfan: [checks profile] Oh, you live in Alaska. I bet you are really, really curious.

Hey dude, I was just wondering what motivates you to do something so socially unacceptable, not hitting on you. I'm going with "uncontrolled addiction" in your case. Thanks for the response :-)


Well Ruth, it's just that, in my experience, women from Alaska who have nothing better to do than ask guys on the internet about "uncontrolled addiction" are really, really lonely.
 
2011-12-30 09:38:23 PM
rwfan: gadian: rwfan: [checks profile] Oh, you live in Alaska. I bet you are really, really curious.

Hey dude, I was just wondering what motivates you to do something so socially unacceptable, not hitting on you. I'm going with "uncontrolled addiction" in your case. Thanks for the response :-)

Well Ruth, it's just that, in my experience, women from Alaska who have nothing better to do than ask guys on the internet about "uncontrolled addiction" are really, really lonely.


ouch,,,,,,as the little cabin walls slowly close in around you
 
2011-12-30 09:42:29 PM
tomcatadam: Your town sounds like YuppieVille cheap.

FTFY
 
2011-12-30 09:44:10 PM
Bathia_Mapes: Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Do the ladies ever look at porn in the library?
 
2011-12-30 09:51:29 PM
FirstNationalBastard: Well, they already have the windex and squeegee to clean car windows, so why not?

If they come on my windshield, they damn well better have a squeegee.
 
2011-12-30 09:52:56 PM
NO.

Next question?
 
2011-12-30 10:04:01 PM
So if you are NOT homeless, is it OK to watch porn at the library?

/See, my gf yells at me for watching porn.
 
2011-12-30 10:09:11 PM
djkutch: Bathia_Mapes: Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Do the ladies ever look at porn in the library?


All the time. They even encourage it at the library. And I can post the covers on fark without getting banninated.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-12-30 10:15:20 PM
This whole premise is misleading because 1: the homeless have to walk on pins and needles making sure not to fall asleep and for fark sake don't get cought smoking out front. And,, B: Most of the people watching the porn are the poor farks renting rooms near the said library who go there because they can't afford internet, so that's where they go to get their porn. Nothing to do with the homeless, but everything to do with being poor. This just in!!! If people have no place to whack off they just may do it in your kids fries. That goes for shiating too.
 
2011-12-30 10:59:41 PM
Why I love FARK: this is one if the only places you're going to find people nonchalantly defending thIs kind of shiat.
 
2011-12-30 11:07:36 PM
Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Nice library there in Eugene
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 180x240]

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke


Getting all nice & cozy with Eugene Skinner, I see. :-D

They don't have laptops you can check out at the Eugene Public Library, but you're free to bring your own laptop with you and use the library wi-fi. You can also use the the wi-fi from the Novella Cafe in the library's lobby, but they ask you to buy something if you're using one of their tables.

BTW-when were you in Eugene?
 
2011-12-30 11:09:38 PM
djkutch: Bathia_Mapes: Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Do the ladies ever look at porn in the library?


I really don't know. I don't use the library computers all that much unless I need to print something (our printer died).
 
2011-12-30 11:26:23 PM
DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Negatives:
- exposing kids to things they don't/can't understand (can't explain German scat porn to a 10-year-old)


Why do you assume they can't understand it? A 10-year-old has already spent a notable percentage of their life sitting around in a shiat-filled diaper.
 
2011-12-30 11:27:36 PM
First, what's the point of porn if you're just looking at it?

Second, these people are too lazy to get a job, then they're too lazy to use their imaginations?
 
2011-12-30 11:35:15 PM
Mugato: Most decent hotels have rooms with computers with internet access. You don't even need a room key. Or go to any college.

I've been to many, many universities in the last few years to recruit for my department. I can only think of maybe one that didn't require MAC authentication based on an existing user account for the wireless. Come to think of it, it was a community college campus being used for a central regional recruitment effort.
 
2011-12-30 11:50:16 PM
djkutch: Bathia_Mapes: Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Do the ladies ever look at porn in the library?


Ladies don't look at porn.

Women might, but ladies don't like spooge on their little white gloves.
 
2011-12-30 11:58:38 PM
Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Nice library there in Eugene
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 180x240]

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke

Getting all nice & cozy with Eugene Skinner, I see. :-D

They don't have laptops you can check out at the Eugene Public Library, but you're free to bring your own laptop with you and use the library wi-fi. You can also use the the wi-fi from the Novella Cafe in the library's lobby, but they ask you to buy something if you're using one of their tables.

BTW-when were you in Eugene?


He seemed like the kind of guy I could drink a beer with. I was there in the Summer of 2007 and used the computers to check e-mail. Phone had no internet and I had no laptop then. They have a very nice library and transit system too. I would live there if I had to choose another town to be in.
 
2011-12-31 12:01:29 AM
Gyrfalcon: djkutch: Bathia_Mapes: Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Do the ladies ever look at porn in the library?

Ladies don't look at porn.

Women might, but ladies don't like spooge on their little white gloves.


You're on Fark. I don't think they know the difference between ladies and women. ;)

Then again, I'm on Fark too. I just know that I generally prefer women to ladies.
 
2011-12-31 12:14:13 AM
Why would we let anyone watch porn in the library?
 
2011-12-31 12:23:07 AM
Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Nice library there in Eugene
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 180x240]

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke

Getting all nice & cozy with Eugene Skinner, I see. :-D

They don't have laptops you can check out at the Eugene Public Library, but you're free to bring your own laptop with you and use the library wi-fi. You can also use the the wi-fi from the Novella Cafe in the library's lobby, but they ask you to buy something if you're using one of their tables.

BTW-when were you in Eugene?

He seemed like the kind of guy I could drink a beer with. I was there in the Summer of 2007 and used the computers to check e-mail. Phone had no internet and I had no laptop then. They have a very nice library and transit system too. I would live there if I had to choose another town to be in.


They do indeed. However, the employment scene could use some improving. That was the main branch of the library you visited, but they have two smaller locations as well.
 
2011-12-31 12:34:49 AM
TravisBickle62: They should not be allowed in the library at all, they are dirty and smell bad

Yep.
 
2011-12-31 12:40:27 AM
Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Nice library there in Eugene
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 180x240]

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke

Getting all nice & cozy with Eugene Skinner, I see. :-D

They don't have laptops you can check out at the Eugene Public Library, but you're free to bring your own laptop with you and use the library wi-fi. You can also use the the wi-fi from the Novella Cafe in the library's lobby, but they ask you to buy something if you're using one of their tables.

BTW-when were you in Eugene?

He seemed like the kind of guy I could drink a beer with. I was there in the Summer of 2007 and used the computers to check e-mail. Phone had no internet and I had no laptop then. They have a very nice library and transit system too. I would live there if I had to choose another town to be in.

They do indeed. However, the employment scene could use some improving. That was the main branch of the library you visited, but they have two smaller locations as well.


As I recall there was quite a bit of discussion about the lagging economy due to problems with the timber industry...or something like that. I know they make some damn fine travel trailers up there :P

But in all seriousness I found it delightful, if not a bit odd, they had no sales tax. It was so cool to pay exactly what an item is marked at. Around here they tax everything.
 
2011-12-31 01:16:10 AM
No.
 
2011-12-31 01:21:16 AM
Remember in Olden Times when library porn was hidden?

farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2011-12-31 02:03:52 AM
theweirdstuff.com
What porn may look like.
 
2011-12-31 02:15:10 AM
Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: Degenz: Bathia_Mapes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: When I worked at the library, the biggest worry was kids seeing the homeless guys looking at porn

/well, except for the homeless guys choking the chicken while looking at porn

That's not too much of a problem at the Eugene Public library, mainly because they have separate sections on different floors for the computers. There a computers in the children's section, some in the teen/young adult section & both of those are on the first floor, None of them can access porn. Those computers that can are on the second floor and can only be used by adults. Even then there is a possibilty of a child seeing porn if they're on the second floor with an adult.

Having said that, I don't mind if someone is looking at porn on a library computer, but if you have to masturbate, use one of the restrooms.

Nice library there in Eugene
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 180x240]

Here in Kansas City laptops you can check out and take to the restroom.

/no joke

Getting all nice & cozy with Eugene Skinner, I see. :-D

They don't have laptops you can check out at the Eugene Public Library, but you're free to bring your own laptop with you and use the library wi-fi. You can also use the the wi-fi from the Novella Cafe in the library's lobby, but they ask you to buy something if you're using one of their tables.

BTW-when were you in Eugene?

He seemed like the kind of guy I could drink a beer with. I was there in the Summer of 2007 and used the computers to check e-mail. Phone had no internet and I had no laptop then. They have a very nice library and transit system too. I would live there if I had to choose another town to be in.

They do indeed. However, the employment scene could use some improving. That was the main branch of the library you visited, but they have two smaller locations as well.

As I recall there was quite a bit of discussion about the lagging economy due to problems with the timber in ...


The timber industry is pretty much kaput in Oregon, as is the RV industry. I had friends who had worked at Monaco Coach for over 10-years & they both lost their jobs. At this time there are no more RV manufacturers in the state. One of our friends that was working at Monaco Coach got hired on at Hynix Semiconductor, but they shut down too. The South Korean owners felt they could manufacturer their products cheaper in their home country.

Yeah, about the sales tax. It's true Oregon doesn't have a sales tax, but we do have a higher than average property tax.
 
2011-12-31 02:42:46 AM
Summer Glau's Love Slave: [theweirdstuff.com image 432x311]
What porn may look like.



WtF
 
2011-12-31 02:48:47 AM
Goo unto others as you would have them goo unto you.
 
2011-12-31 02:52:58 AM
Solution: cheap large-screen monitors above every PC. Everyone within 50' will know what you're looking at.Aldon: Why would we let anyone watch porn in the library?

What's porn?
 
2011-12-31 04:31:23 AM
Man On Pink Corner: Solution: cheap large-screen monitors above every PC. Everyone within 50' will know what you're looking at.Aldon: Why would we let anyone watch porn in the library?

What's porn?


That solution won't work.

See, the type of people who watch porn and even jerk off to porn in a public library are normally half-crazy anyway. I'm not going to say all homeless people are crazy; but some of them are - and the ones watching porn at the library probably are.

They don't *care* if the whole world knows they are watching gangbang tranny porn. They just want to watch some gangbang tranny porn. They don't care if the whole library knows.
 
2011-12-31 08:29:56 AM
BorgiaGinz: TravisBickle62: They should not be allowed in the library at all, they are dirty and smell bad

THIS! I was just in the library today and had to pass 3 smelly bums parked in the New Books section. Why should hardworking citizens have to have everything we value ruined by the dregs of society?


Library... If I want books I go to the store and buy them. Libraries essentially steal my tax money, to let society's non-contributors and the homeless loaf around all day reading books. They also reduce book purchases, which steals jobs from America.

OK, for serious, we all know how badly web filters work. They just.. don't. The ones that aren't so dumb they block breast cancer sites along with porn, are design by religious fundamentalists whose block lists essentially constitute right wing social engineering. There's a reason good librarians hate censorship, and it's because you are guaranteed to throw the baby out with the bathwater... if anyone can even agree which is which.
 
2011-12-31 09:06:01 AM
DNRTFA
DNRTFT

Each will feature the usual collection of libertarians, liberals, and conservatives.

1. Libertarians will ignore the actual issue and find ways to twist the topic to advance their ideology.

2. Liberals will ignore the actual issue and find ways to twist the topic to advance their ideology.

3. Conservatives will ignore the actual issue and find ways to twist the topic to advance their ideology.
 
2011-12-31 09:39:05 AM
Oh please make sure you don't infringe on the rights of dirty hobos who want to rub one out in the middle of the library!
 
2011-12-31 10:23:39 AM
Metaluna Mutant: Remember in Olden Times when library porn was hidden?

Good god. The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers??!?

/the old man used to read those religiously...
 
2011-12-31 12:04:50 PM
I'm legitimately conflicted on this issue. On the one hand, these guys have pretty much ruined the magic of the library system, on the other hand, it reeeaaalllyy sucks to be them, and I would probably end up doing the same crap with similar limited options. I don't just mean surfing porn, but the whole dirty, smelly people camping out at the library in general. Hell, they might not even all be homeless. Either way, libraries have lost their charm.
 
2011-12-31 01:06:45 PM
Wasilla Hillbilly: ... Either way, libraries have lost their charm.

For YOU, maybe. For me, all I need is a handful of crisp ten dollar bills and then I tell those homeless people to fight each other for my money. After they're done stroking, of course.
 
2011-12-31 01:35:23 PM
I thought you were supposed to go to the library for information, not entertainment.
 
2011-12-31 01:43:36 PM
Threads like these remind me of how blessed I am to be a librarian at a private university that restricts access.

So no homeless people -- just students having sex in the stacks.
 
2011-12-31 01:47:08 PM
GreenSun: "Most recently, it was the November arrest of a homeless man in the Laguna Beach library for allegedly fonding himself while viewing porn, with a crowd of seven other men around him."

Lol I bet they were cheering on him to ejaculate as high as possible!

I don't think it would be right to censor even porn at libraries. Porn is still part of humanity, and there is a reason why porn was created by humans in the first place. Whether your intention is the jack off or to actually study all sorts of porn is part of anyone's right to freedom of information. Yes, you can use information to jack off.

Still, I do understand the effects of a person masturbating in front of a public computer in the library. Sticky keyboards, monitors, tables, chairs, and floors are terrible, as well as possible health risks. Forget about morality because that is a subjective matter. What I think should be done is to have a section in every library where you can view porn. In that area, only people who want to find porn will be around and people who don't want porn can stay in the other area.

There should also be guidelines in this porn section, like not ejaculating on furniture and equipment. They can either BUY cups, sanitizers, and tissue from a dispenser in the library if they intend to jack off. The rule should be "Clean up your mess or pay a fine.". The moment someone is caught jacking off without cleaning his DNA or not using cups/sanitizers, he/she should be banned from that library forever.

I think that in this way, both porn and non-porn researchers can use the public library peacefully without causing trouble towards each other while promoting good health and safety.


So you want to turn the public library into a gay bathhouse basically?

Porn isn't a right, it's a privilege. If people want to look at porn, they should find their own means to do so. Since most men don't have impulse control when it comes to things of a sexual nature, I don't trust them to not masturbate while viewing it in the library. Also homeless people probably have low standards for hygiene so unless people want to risk touching their spunk on a regular basis and the librarians want to spend their time cleaning it up, I would say it's probably a bad idea.
 
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