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2011-12-30 07:28:49 PM
If we had a cable/ISP market system that actually had meaningful competition and regulation, cable companies would already be dead and replaced by IPTV.

I haven't had cable in years and probably never will again. I wonder how long the cable TV business will be able to stave off the end by continued payoffs to our elected officials.

The fact that the cable companies also are the high speed ISPs really bites hard and is strong evidence of how corrupt our lawmakers are. Will the cable companies really be able to drag this out by putting tight quotas on data transfers?

If COX tries to force me to pay more so I can watch Netflix and Hulu I am going to be SERIOUSLY pissed.
 
2011-12-30 08:31:10 PM
And there's 10 times more content plus additional features like DVR and HD.
 
2011-12-30 08:41:47 PM
Do you feel as if more websites are automatically playing videos when the page loads?
 
2011-12-30 08:42:02 PM
I blame ESPN and Fox.

/don't watch either
//dnrtfa
 
2011-12-30 08:42:16 PM
jaylectricity: And there's 10 times more content plus additional features like DVR and HD.

And still nothing's on.
 
2011-12-30 08:44:04 PM
The sky here is kind of gray, and the sun tends to rise in the southeast in the winter.
 
2011-12-30 08:44:14 PM
Nope. Canceled cable years ago, and I just packed away the bunny ears too. Broadcast TV is as dead as vaudeville and fax machines.
 
2011-12-30 08:45:14 PM
SwiftFox: jaylectricity: And there's 10 times more content plus additional features like DVR and HD.

And still nothing's on.


Got the tv on some shiat, the computer on this shiat, and the radio on the men's room here in seattle.
I am so not green.
 
2011-12-30 08:46:01 PM
Also, yeah, cut cable a few years ago.

Rabbit ears + Netflix streaming + DVDs = good enough for me
 
2011-12-30 08:46:08 PM
Not really, technically no, and technically no.
 
2011-12-30 08:47:27 PM
Comcast only cut my service by 3/4ths while more than doubling price over the last 8 years, so obviously the freemarket is working, and the infrastructure shouldn't just be siezed by local governments out from under them without any compensation of any kind to the shareholders.
 
2011-12-30 08:49:09 PM
My cable company just called me pretending to be my phone company.

Yeah, fark you Optimum, this is why I only have internet on a grandfathered plan you can't touch. They have business practices so dirty that they make Comcast and the mafia look like angels.
 
2011-12-30 08:51:36 PM
No, I'm on a 2 yr price lock in with FiOS.
Yes, it does.
It was today, mostly.
 
2011-12-30 08:53:42 PM
I cut my cable 2 and 1/2 years ago and am so happy I did. The first month you end up being "WTF do I do now?" But then you either use the free alternatives and pocket the cash or realize that humans weren't designed to sit on their butts all day. Fortunately I fell into the second category and dropped lotsa pounds.

Seriously, people. Cut the frigging cable. You may know what you're missing out on but once you get past the first month and appreciate it, you'll never go back.

/except for internet access but I have 3 ISPs I keep flipping between depending on speed/price...so could be a lot worse.
 
2011-12-30 08:53:49 PM
$128 per month? Seriously? No wonder everyone in this country is broke.

/doesn't have cable TV
 
2011-12-30 08:56:26 PM

Roku + Amazon Instant + Netflix Streaming. My bill went from $160 plus for cable and internet (depending on if I rented movies from XFinity) to $60 for basic cable and internet. For entertainment I have more than I can watch. I miss out on sports, but I'd rather have the extra $100. Besides I was being overcharged. My cable bill didn't even include any premium channels.


I want to see enough people cut the cable cord so that major content switches over to streaming and cable has to deal with real competition. In the meantime I'm saving the extra cash for a nice summer vacation next year. $1,200 right in my pocket that would have gone to cable over the year.

 
2011-12-30 08:56:27 PM
Cutting the cable was the best thing I ever did. I've actually done some meaningful things with my life, like finally learning the guitar.
 
2011-12-30 08:57:48 PM
I dropped cable and got an external antenna. NOW I get all the channels I need or want.

/Bonnie Hammer helped.
 
2011-12-30 09:01:06 PM
No cable. Netflix, rabbit ears and dvds have sufficed.
 
2011-12-30 09:04:25 PM
I heard Comcast is going up 6% in January
 
2011-12-30 09:07:13 PM
I have cable. I like it.
 
2011-12-30 09:07:46 PM
I haven't had cable TV in something like 10 years. The last time I had it was when I lived in a group household where everybody else wanted it, and I was indifferent, and I said, "Meh, it's only $20 a month and I'll be making use of it too, so I'll pay."

I get DVDs from Netflix for movies, and have rabbit ears for the only two TV shows I watch, House and Glee.

If the sports networks are to blame for much of the rate hikes, then maybe the cable networks should consider making a "no sports" package available without ESPN and related stuff. I really don't care about football, NASCRAP, or pretty much anything else they broadcast.
 
2011-12-30 09:09:35 PM
My cable bill is in fact higher, but now I get fewer channels
 
2011-12-30 09:13:41 PM
natmar_76: Cutting the cable was the best thing I ever did. I've actually done some meaningful things with my life, like finally learning the guitar.

Hahaha, playing the guitar is meaningful? I mean I love music and all, but learning the power chords necessary to play "Smoke on the Water" isn't meaningful.
 
2011-12-30 09:16:17 PM
rhiannon: Do you feel as if more websites are automatically playing videos when the page loads?

No, but I use firefox with extensions, so meh.

As to topic, I haven't ever had cable on my own. When living with the parents growing up, sure. In the dorms, it was free. In my own apartment? Meh. Internet, DVD player, rabbit ears for local stuff, I was happy.

Now....I don't think I've turned on my TV in like 6 months. I just spend most of my time at the computer. But I'm also an introvert/recluse who never has people over, so no social reasons to turn it on.

Only thing I miss is the old BBC comedy that used to air on Houston PBS saturday nights. Are you being served, red dwarf, red green (I know, Canadian), etc.

When I go home and visit the parents I'll usually couch surf and end up watching NCIS, Law and order SVU, criminal minds, CSI, River monsters, Anthony-Bourdain-does-anything (he is my hero now), planet earth, or Mythbusters, whatever's on and I haven't seen 400 times. That's roughly 3-4 channels of the 200 they get that I want to watch at any point during a day. And they already cut out all the 'premium' stuff they could that they never watched either.

/recently discovered Penn and Teller tell a lie
//awesome show
///Love watching those two on TV
 
2011-12-30 09:21:20 PM
As a CAE working for Comcast I am getting a kick....

/Obligatory price hike next year folks.
//Customers have been warned in their bill for the past two months
///$1 million bucks I will get a customer stating they were not warned,
////BET SLASHIES!!!!
 
2011-12-30 09:21:21 PM
I don't have cable. Hell, I don't own a TV. Instead of doing something healthy or meaningful with my time, I watch hours and hours of crap TV and movies at a minimal cost on my home computers. In fact, I only pay for an unlimited internet plan and netflix streaming and the rest of my entertainment I scrounge up for free.

My laptop is great to plop on a chair a few feet away and snuggle with the guy on the couch when we watch our "tv". No, I care not for Hi-def pixels or like totally awesome sound.
 
2011-12-30 09:27:51 PM
My dish network bill is staying at a nice $0
 
2011-12-30 09:28:18 PM
Jon H: Got the tv on some shiat, the computer on this shiat, and the radio on the men's room here in seattle.

Seattle is an example of why cable will still succeed in some markets. You can't really watch the local stations easily without cable. There are five different geographically separated places where the broadcast antennas are (Queen Anne Hill, First Hill, Cougar Mountain, Gold Mountain and Point Defiance), so you're going to need an outdoor antenna with a rotor.

It would be nice if somebody in Olympia would ink a deal to move all of those towers to atop Columbia Center with re-transmitters in Lake Stevens (see K17IZ) and Puyallup (see K49IX). It would make an antenna setup much easier.
 
2011-12-30 09:29:00 PM
Lost cable access when did the last move. Now I have 10 chickens and a hive of bees to keep me busy. Plus the kids and all the other projects/etc, who the hell has time for tv? I was all giddy when I found out I get, with bunny ears, two digital stations... CW and ABC... serious boner letdown. I do miss stuff like History and Discovery, but then they were going to shiat anyway.
 
2011-12-30 09:29:04 PM
Jacobin: My cable bill is in fact higher

Did it eat everything in your fridge?
 
2011-12-30 09:32:55 PM
Oh, and sat-tv is shiat at the lowest tier with their four religious, three shopping, three political, and too many multidiverse channels I can't understand.. meh... mucking chicken shiat is where it's at. And all I'd rather do is just watch a bit of American football a few times a year, but $60 a month isn't worth that.
 
2011-12-30 09:39:59 PM
A Holes at Time Warner decided to raise my internet only bill by 14$ to 53.99 a month without telling me. Their excuse was that my introductory offer ended. That would make sense if I haven't had it for 2.5 years. They refused to lower it one penny even after threatening to cancel and switch to UVerse. Their response was "OK". Instead of getting 40$ from me every month they now get 0. I have UVerse coming tomorrow for internet and 200 tv channels for 13$ more. Who is this country is paying 55$ a month for only internet?! I don't know anyone.
 
2011-12-30 09:43:02 PM
"The NFL and ESPN inked a controversial deal earlier this year, prompting many media executives to blame the league and the network for rising cable costs"

Okay, so why not allow a more a la carte system where people can get basic stuff for a small price, and add ESPN and the NFL network for a larger price? ESPN is awful. I'd gladly go without.

And the NFL can go fark itself too. No one watches your stupid Thursday night games unless it's their home team.
 
2011-12-30 09:51:31 PM
oukewldave: A Holes at Time Warner decided to raise my internet only bill by 14$ to 53.99 a month without telling me. Their excuse was that my introductory offer ended. That would make sense if I haven't had it for 2.5 years. They refused to lower it one penny even after threatening to cancel and switch to UVerse. Their response was "OK". Instead of getting 40$ from me every month they now get 0. I have UVerse coming tomorrow for internet and 200 tv channels for 13$ more. Who is this country is paying 55$ a month for only internet?! I don't know anyone.

Time Warner pulled the same thing with me. My introductory offer ended and my bill went from $90 to $120. I called them to get on another promo and they refused. So I switched to DirecTV and AT&T and am paying a little for $100 a month and I got a better DVR and more channels.
 
2011-12-30 10:03:25 PM
We decided to cut cable couple of months ago. Planned on keeping the interwebs with a speed boost. Called it in and was ready to turn the box in when they called back and gave us everything we currently had for about half the price we were paying. Bill is now about $60.

It's TWC, so we'll have to watch them to see if they jack it back up.
 
2011-12-30 10:06:58 PM
iollow: And the NFL can go fark itself too. No one watches your stupid Thursday night games unless it's their home team.

I do. I love having the NFL Network and the RedZone Channel. I'm not even like a crazy rabid sports fan, I just like watching them.
 
2011-12-30 10:35:02 PM
jaylectricity: Hahaha, playing the guitar is meaningful? I mean I love music and all, but learning the power chords necessary to play "Smoke on the Water" isn't meaningful.

Yes, playing an instrument is meaningful. It's a valuable experience, much more so than passively watching a television. Nice inference on the power chords, also. I read music and play classical pieces, as well as modern chord songs.
 
2011-12-30 10:42:55 PM
Riche: The fact that the cable companies also are the high speed ISPs really bites hard and is strong evidence of how corrupt our lawmakers are. Will the cable companies really be able to drag this out by putting tight quotas on data transfers?

If COX tries to force me to pay more so I can watch Netflix and Hulu I am going to be SERIOUSLY pissed.


Charter has started farking with my P2P traffic recently... My connection is fine as long as there's no P2P, but start up BitTorrent and within 12 hours my connection goes bye-bye, and it takes multiple resets (with a brand-new modem AND router) to get it going again.

SinPiEqualsZero: Seriously, people. Cut the frigging cable. You may know what you're missing out on but once you get past the first month and appreciate it, you'll never go back.

/except for internet access but I have 3 ISPs I keep flipping between depending on speed/price...so could be a lot worse.


Cant. It's the only real high-speed option in my area. DSL is 1/20 the speed for 2/3 the price, and that's even counting that I have to pay for cable TV I don't actually watch.

TheSelphie: $128 per month? Seriously? No wonder everyone in this country is broke.

/doesn't have cable TV


That's about what I'm paying for cable + internet (no internet-only option, basic channels only). Aside from rent, cable is my highest monthly bill.

geekbikerskum: I haven't had cable TV in something like 10 years. The last time I had it was when I lived in a group household where everybody else wanted it, and I was indifferent, and I said, "Meh, it's only $20 a month and I'll be making use of it too, so I'll pay."

I get DVDs from Netflix for movies, and have rabbit ears for the only two TV shows I watch, House and Glee.

If the sports networks are to blame for much of the rate hikes, then maybe the cable networks should consider making a "no sports" package available without ESPN and related stuff. I really don't care about football, NASCRAP, or pretty much anything else they broadcast.


I'd love this option. As it stands, I have the least amount of channels it's possible to have, and I think four of those are sports channels.
 
2011-12-30 10:52:18 PM
...and to think, Netflix got reamed for daring to make their overall monthly price...less than a quarter of what your average cable trust-buddy's "SUPER SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER!!ONE!" costs...
 
2011-12-30 10:58:08 PM
oukewldave: A Holes at Time Warner decided to raise my internet only bill by 14$ to 53.99 a month without telling me. Their excuse was that my introductory offer ended. That would make sense if I haven't had it for 2.5 years. They refused to lower it one penny even after threatening to cancel and switch to UVerse. Their response was "OK". Instead of getting 40$ from me every month they now get 0. I have UVerse coming tomorrow for internet and 200 tv channels for 13$ more. Who is this country is paying 55$ a month for only internet?! I don't know anyone.

We pay 49 for internet only. No cable. No phone. It's the fastest basic plan. Use it for Hulu, amazon digital, netflix, and our VOIP.

/misses nothing on TV that I can't already get elsewhere
 
2011-12-30 11:02:42 PM
natmar_76: jaylectricity: Hahaha, playing the guitar is meaningful? I mean I love music and all, but learning the power chords necessary to play "Smoke on the Water" isn't meaningful.

Yes, playing an instrument is meaningful. It's a valuable experience, much more so than passively watching a television. Nice inference on the power chords, also. I read music and play classical pieces, as well as modern chord songs.


I was just bustin balls...I like making music too. And there's almost nothing better than trading instruments with your best friend and trying something different.
 
2011-12-30 11:06:51 PM
Ok, I just wrote that and did not even think of the sexual innuendos that could be construed.

I just meant, like:

Hey cool. I play drums. I can play a little bass but I would never brag about being able to play a song from memory. I have some piano skills that were reduced from actual music reading with clefs and everything to just making something sound techno-ey. I can play a few chords on the guitar, and probably half of them are power chords. I've played instruments that don't even have a name because it was just the result of us filling balloons with random numbers of stale cigarettes.

/dammit, I couldn't resist saying something silly at the end
 
2011-12-30 11:20:25 PM
geekbikerskum

If the sports networks are to blame for much of the rate hikes, then maybe the cable networks should consider making a "no sports" package available without ESPN and related stuff. I really don't care about football, NASCRAP, or pretty much anything else they broadcast.

THIS!!!!

Got cable and also got the sports package -- which is included in EVERY package with AT&T Uverse and COMCAST. I don't watch sports. If the sports business charges so much for carrying their stuff, why shove it on EVERY customer whether they want it or not?

I biatched to a COMCAST representative, as I terminated their service, about the TV being taken over by INFOMERCIALS and was surprised to find out that COMCAST had no control over them. The networks did.

I switched to AT&T U-Verse because it was a lot cheaper than Comcast, plus I had been using their high speed internet separately at low cost and no problem -- though I had to buy their $75 modem which is probably worth about $20. After it all got installed, I discovered that along with their cheap monthly rate came a bunch of hidden charges that jacked the total bill up beyond Comcast. PLUS they disconnected my cheap cable DSL and ran it through U-verse at a much higher charge.

I got to keep the modem.

Then I found out that not only was the service infested with infomercials, but they juggled programs about on different tiers so I wound up loosing a few.
It was a pretty much loose-loose situation. I'll be trying Direct TV next.

I read somewhere that TV networks charge cable and dish companies to carry their stuff, which surprised me a bit because, as far as I know, when cable first started, it was the other way around. Plus, in many areas, they've shut down the old free TV transmission towers, except for UHF. Back then, networks paid a fee to be carried on a stations broadcast lineup.

Cable companies also screwed themselves when someone came up with the idea of tiers and breaking up programming so that the cheapest tier stopped just short of making the viewer commit suicide. To watch anything halfway decent, you were forced to upgrade, which cost more. If you wanted to watch anything resembling good TV, you had to upgrade even again.

Naturally, at more money each time.

Plus, you wind up cluttered with useless channels. I don't want the mass of sports channels -- and don't understand why, with all of them mandatory, some of my favorite stations still pre-empt programming to show spots events. I don't want the infomercial channels, nor the exercise ones, the QVC types and certainly not the Hispanic ones.

Comcast Cable did not win any popularity contests when they managed to bribe Congress into making 'stealing cable' from a misdemeanor to a FELONEY. To disconnect your service, they used to clip the wire at your box on your house. Folks discovered real quick that you could poke the exposed cable end back into the socket and get basic cable for free. THAT was STEALING cable. Sometimes, you only had to bend the wire to within a quarter inch of the socket to get it.

Then they started cutting it at the pole, which also helped wipe out the easily accessible, much smaller cable boxes needed to convert the signal for your TV. You could get them -- naturally -- off the Internet.

Then Comcast developed new boxes through which they could send a signal to find out how many you had and if any were 'illegal'. Illegal ones were then cut off. It was rumored that they could send a signal down the line and burn out your illegal cable box.

Face it folks, no matter what you do, you're going to eventually pay through the nose for the use of any communication or entertainment device.

Like the cheap internet TV? Just wait.

Kind of like how now you have to put up with animated ads when you go to most web pages, which seem somehow to load a whole lot faster than anything else and recently developed a way to spread out across your screen as you scramble to find the close button. Not to mention that no matter how much you pay for an anti-virus program and malware blocker, somehow an ad pops up on your screen when you close the internet a lot of the time.

There are always more ways to screw you out of your hard earned money than you can dream of.
 
2011-12-31 12:02:11 AM
There are always more ways to screw you out of your hard earned money than you can dream of.

Adblock plus, no TV subscription, no cellphone contract. Because fark getting screwed over by companies whose biggest goal is to maximize ARPU and nothing else.
 
2011-12-31 12:24:09 AM
Rik01: Plus, in many areas, they've shut down the old free TV transmission towers, except for UHF

That's not true.

Just about every station that was around in the analog NTSC days is still around today in with ATSC digital. Most made the conversions. There are still a few analog stations, but they're mostly low-power or repeater stations that were granted a temporary exception.

And North America did not ditch VHF for UHF. You can still find ATSC digital channels on both bands. Having said that, a lot of channels ditched the VHF-Lo band (ch2-6 / 54-88MHz) because there is a lot of interference from automobile and airplane engines on that band. You also need a big antenna to pick it up, and few people want a big antenna like they hand on their 1990s era cordless phones on their smartphone with integrated TV tuner. So most everything is now on VHF-Hi (ch7-13 / 174-216MHz) and UHF (ch14-51 / 470-698MHz). Only a handful in the US are on VHF-Lo.

And if it is an OTA channel on those bands, it is still free.
 
2011-12-31 12:38:08 AM
rhiannon: I have cable. I like it.

Burn the witch!
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2011-12-31 01:36:26 AM
No cable. Have not missed it one bit.
 
2011-12-31 03:06:46 AM
oukewldave: A Holes at Time Warner decided to raise my internet only bill by 14$ to 53.99 a month without telling me. Their excuse was that my introductory offer ended. That would make sense if I haven't had it for 2.5 years. They refused to lower it one penny even after threatening to cancel and switch to UVerse. Their response was "OK". Instead of getting 40$ from me every month they now get 0. I have UVerse coming tomorrow for internet and 200 tv channels for 13$ more. Who is this country is paying 55$ a month for only internet?! I don't know anyone.

Me.

I live in the boonies where the only ISP/Cable provider is Charter. They do have an attractive "bundle" price for Inet/phone/TV, but for Inet only, I have to pay $65/month for 12Mb/250GB.

But that is the way extortion works. If you have the only game in town, bleed them dry.
 
2011-12-31 03:17:06 AM
enry: I blame ESPN and Fox.

/don't watch either
//dnrtfa



This.

Seriously, between the three of us in our family, we watch five or six channels of the hundreds available, and not a single one we watch is Fox or ESPN.

\Keeping fingers crossed for à la carte pricing
\\Probably won't come from TimeWarner, though
\\\TimeWarner being the ONLY provider available to our building
 
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