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(Guardian) Ironic MySpace creator warns Google not to let Google+ become a "cesspool like MySpace"   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 48
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2011-12-30 06:43:19 PM
People would actually have to start using it to become a cesspool. Now it's more like a Chinese ghost town with a bit of algae.
 
2011-12-30 06:44:30 PM
You mean it isn't already?
 
2011-12-30 06:45:26 PM
Google+ is still around?
 
2011-12-30 06:48:08 PM
So Google shouldn't sell out to Rupert Murdoch?
 
2011-12-30 06:58:15 PM
If you don't know the back story this whole thing got kicked off when a tech pundent (new window) got annoyed that google deleted a picture of himself with his middle finger extended. What's hilarious (and somewhat hypocritical) is that Andy Hertzfield (who now works for google) posted the following picture he found in his archives on google+ almost the same day.

i42.tinypic.com

/yes that's Steve Jobs in NYC giving the finger to IBM
 
2011-12-30 07:01:35 PM
I created a Google+ profile one day. Poked around. Saw absolutely nothing of interest going on. And never went back there.

It's like one of those old Western movie sets, where all the building and storefronts lining the main street are fake two-dimensional props. Constructed to give the illusion of an actual functioning community, but in reality, there's nothing there. It's empty.
 
2011-12-30 07:09:01 PM
Doc Daneeka: I created a Google+ profile one day. Poked around. Saw absolutely nothing of interest going on. And never went back there.

It's like one of those old Western movie sets, where all the building and storefronts lining the main street are fake two-dimensional props. Constructed to give the illusion of an actual functioning community, but in reality, there's nothing there. It's empty.


Honestly, this makes me MORE interested in it. The thing I hate about MySpace and Facebook is that they're like New York or L.A. -- Loaded with attention whores, a metric tonne of idiots, and enough bad spelling to choke a bee. They're an intelligent introvert's nightmare.

Google+ could become the place where smart people hang out... Hmmm...
 
2011-12-30 07:09:15 PM
MySpace is the ghetto of social media
 
2011-12-30 07:18:35 PM
This is not ironic.

The creator of MySpace acquired some wisdom through experience and wants to pass it on to whoever is responsible for Google+, which is a reasonable thing to do.
 
2011-12-30 07:20:42 PM
Englebert Slaptyback: This is not ironic.

The creator of MySpace acquired some wisdom through experience and wants to pass it on to whoever is responsible for Google+, which is a reasonable thing to do.


Came in to say this exact thing
 
2011-12-30 07:25:04 PM
Was this an article or just a soap box for this MG Siegler to farking whine some more?


"they up and went into my account!" he says it like there was a group of Google+ employees sitting around in a smokey basement, they had to look up his email address & password, someone calls out his password, they all write it down, then the person who won at beer pong earlier got to log into his account from their personal laptop, and delete the picture.

Someone obviously had a problem with your account profile and reported it, so they removed it. It is a shiatty situation, I've been there (with Myspace) but at no point did I act super offended like someone had been reading my personal messages or knew my credit score.

What a farking loser.

G+ sucks and I don't know anyone that uses it
 
2011-12-30 07:33:06 PM
Subby needs to learn what irony means. Irony would be if the creator of Myspace called google plus a cesspool. This is someone giving a cautionary tale...
 
2011-12-30 07:45:20 PM
waaaaaay too late for that.
 
2011-12-30 08:13:42 PM
falcon176: MySpace is the ghetto of social media

why do you have to bring race into it?
 
2011-12-30 08:40:37 PM
Google+ = Leo Laportes blog.
 
2011-12-30 08:50:56 PM
What is google+?
 
2011-12-30 08:51:14 PM
MySpace was a victim of "White Flight".
 
2011-12-30 08:55:57 PM
TravisBickle62: falcon176: MySpace is the ghetto of social media

why do you have to bring race into it?


ghetto has no racial connotation
 
2011-12-30 09:02:19 PM
Englebert Slaptyback: The creator of MySpace acquired some wisdom through experience and wants to pass it on to whoever is responsible for Google+, which is a reasonable thing to do.

Perhaps what's ironic is that Google+ is more like Friendster; a lot of it is walled off, censored, and you're required to use your real name.
 
2011-12-30 09:05:05 PM
www.profilebrand.com

Enough said.............
 
2011-12-30 09:18:34 PM
falcon176: ghetto has no racial connotation

But it does have a religious connotation.
 
2011-12-30 09:19:01 PM
osxdaily.com


Didn't he read the agreement?
 
2011-12-30 09:22:00 PM
theorellior: falcon176: ghetto has no racial connotation

But it does have a religious connotation.


if this was the 40s you'd be right
 
2011-12-30 09:39:14 PM
Google let Google Knols become a cesspool of spam, then decided to shut it down rather than manage content.
 
2011-12-30 09:47:03 PM
i42.tinypic.com

\thought it was needed
\\made it myself
 
2011-12-30 10:29:13 PM
BSABSVR: People would actually have to start using it to become a cesspool. Now it's more like a Chinese ghost town with a bit of algae.

Say what? (new window)

Like one would expect of a social website, the activity depends upon those you have connections to. If those you follow or are friends with have nothing interesting to say or are active elsewhere, it's not G+'s fault. For me, someone who enjoys photography as a new hobby, the community on G+ is hugely active and interactive compared to Facebook's equivalent.
 
2011-12-31 12:43:36 AM
Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: Doc Daneeka: I created a Google+ profile one day. Poked around. Saw absolutely nothing of interest going on. And never went back there.

It's like one of those old Western movie sets, where all the building and storefronts lining the main street are fake two-dimensional props. Constructed to give the illusion of an actual functioning community, but in reality, there's nothing there. It's empty.

Honestly, this makes me MORE interested in it. The thing I hate about MySpace and Facebook is that they're like New York or L.A. -- Loaded with attention whores, a metric tonne of idiots, and enough bad spelling to choke a bee. They're an intelligent introvert's nightmare.

Google+ could become the place where smart people hang out... Hmmm...


That's been my suspicion. It really is very quiet, but in the way of a roomful of people who don't speak unless they've really got something to say. So the traffic is very light, but it's not the idiocy of Facebook that I've seen so much of.

I think it really depends on what you want out of the thing. A lot of people obviously love Facebook, so there's no denying its appeal. I can only say that I found it unbearable, and I like G+ a lot better, mostly for lack of all that noise.

Also..

i495.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-31 12:52:15 AM
Google plus should not rely on third party services to create custom URL paths to sites.

https://plus.google.com/1005296979328 66642277/posts/1yRuV7kZD4h
 
2011-12-31 01:03:38 AM
Doc Daneeka: I created a Google+ profile one day. Poked around. Saw absolutely nothing of interest going on. And never went back there.

It's like one of those old Western movie sets, where all the building and storefronts lining the main street are fake two-dimensional props. Constructed to give the illusion of an actual functioning community, but in reality, there's nothing there. It's empty.


Kind of like Fark. There really are just 3 people that use this site, and one REALLY prolific typer named Drew.
 
2011-12-31 01:49:29 AM
Nihilist's Guide to Reticent Entropy: The thing I hate about MySpace and Facebook is that they're like New York or L.A. -- Loaded with attention whores, a metric tonne of idiots, and enough bad spelling to choke a bee. They're an intelligent introvert's nightmare.

You have friended all the wrong farking people.
 
2011-12-31 01:53:46 AM
BSABSVR: People would actually have to start using it to become a cesspool. Now it's more like a Chinese ghost town with a bit of algae.

this.
 
2011-12-31 02:08:50 AM
Krieghund: Kind of like Fark. There really are just 3 people that use this site, and one REALLY prolific typer named Drew

Awesome. You just got favourited.
 
2011-12-31 03:08:19 AM
I don't use social media enough to worry about it but from what I can tell, nobody is making the switch to Google+. I've not run into one person leaving Facebook for it.
 
2011-12-31 03:29:42 AM
I haven't logged in to Facebook in about a year.
Don't miss it.
Don't get why anyone else would either, unless you just like playing Farmville.
 
2011-12-31 08:58:02 AM
I stopped following Tom on G+ when his feed became primarily pictures he took in exotic places he's wealthy enough to travel to.
 
2011-12-31 09:03:32 AM
Begoggle: I haven't logged in to Facebook in about a year.
Don't miss it.
Don't get why anyone else would either, unless you just like playing Farmville.


HI, there, Begoggle. My name is MiniFlyingMonkeys. I left Facebook for G+ about 6 months ago and never looked back. It's way more active and intelligent than what I found on Facebook. Nice to meet you!

Now you can mark that off your bucket list.
 
2011-12-31 10:29:41 AM
Meh I just don't want what has become my major email account and thus my main point of contact on the internet to also be directly tied to a site designed for personal level social interaction. I also just don't trust google that much anymore, not that I trust facebook either but at least my main email account and my social account are not the same creature run by the same company.
 
2011-12-31 12:11:10 PM
Google has privacy issues in my opinion. They are as bad as facebook in that regards. Myspace could have been ok but they let the users have too much power over their pages and allowed constant spamming for the horrible cover band, the Iron Maidens.
 
2011-12-31 01:37:44 PM
Duck lips and the middle finger. Universal gang sign for 14 year old girls and Tom from Myspace.
 
2011-12-31 01:39:58 PM
The trick to a good social network is the ability to ignore annoying people without offending them.
 
2011-12-31 02:16:14 PM
no one bothered to tell me or warn me before they just went into my account and deleted the picture. What if this was the only place I had stored the picture?

Then you would have lost it.

Or, you would have checked your browser's cache and gotten it back from there.

But who would expect you, the creator of MySpace, to be at all familiar with how web browsers work?
 
2011-12-31 05:15:29 PM
ArcadianRefugee: no one bothered to tell me or warn me before they just went into my account and deleted the picture. What if this was the only place I had stored the picture?

Then you would have lost it.

Or, you would have checked your browser's cache and gotten it back from there.

But who would expect you, the creator of MySpace, to be at all familiar with how web browsers work?


Tom didn't say that. It was the other dude.
 
2011-12-31 10:06:51 PM
9beers: I don't use social media enough to worry about it but from what I can tell, nobody is making the switch to Google+. I've not run into one person leaving Facebook for it.

Here is the catch. Lots and lots of people are making G+ accounts in addition to facebook accounts, lots of people who never used facebook are using g+, and it is really hard to tell who isn't using facebook because they don't let you delete your account plus they build phantom accounts for people who have never signed up!

G+ gives you actual privacy controls and lets you set who can have access to different items you post by assigning them to different groups and then picking which groups get to see each item you add. If you feel like it you can have ever person you know be in a separate "group". Unless you set info as public random people get to find out nothing about you until you agree to add them and set what they can see.
 
2012-01-01 12:20:15 AM
Having never heard of Google+, I had to Google it. So basically it is just another faceplace to piss away time?
 
2012-01-01 02:25:13 AM
Hacker_X: G+ gives you actual privacy controls...

You do realize that the ENTIRE reason G+ was created was so they could mine your data and sell it to advertisers right?

If Google and facebook wanted to look at your credit card/bank statements to track your spending habits you'd tell them to fark off but they build a social networking site and people give them that info willingly.
 
2012-01-01 06:14:41 AM
Kaybeck: Hacker_X: G+ gives you actual privacy controls...

You do realize that the ENTIRE reason G+ was created was so they could mine your data and sell it to advertisers right?

If Google and facebook wanted to look at your credit card/bank statements to track your spending habits you'd tell them to fark off but they build a social networking site and people give them that info willingly.


What info? They have an e-mail address and a handle. I for one am not foolish enough to use my real info online. What info could they even mine? That I had shown interest in certain websites or news items? A general analysis of what items certain demographics are clicking on (assuming those demographics actually gave you real info about who they are) is a far cry from access to banking records.
 
2012-01-01 12:16:47 PM
Hacker_X: Kaybeck: Hacker_X: G+ gives you actual privacy controls...

You do realize that the ENTIRE reason G+ was created was so they could mine your data and sell it to advertisers right?

If Google and facebook wanted to look at your credit card/bank statements to track your spending habits you'd tell them to fark off but they build a social networking site and people give them that info willingly.

What info? They have an e-mail address and a handle. I for one am not foolish enough to use my real info online. What info could they even mine? That I had shown interest in certain websites or news items? A general analysis of what items certain demographics are clicking on (assuming those demographics actually gave you real info about who they are) is a far cry from access to banking records.


Guess what, google has a policy of 'real name only' and bans accounts that they catch trying to side step that. That in itself is probably why I'm the most leary of google+, its just creepy. Oh and keep in mind if you're doing that sort of thing or anything else their disney-like policies deem unacceptable it not only kills the g+ account but everything else associated with that gmail address too.
 
2012-01-01 06:10:41 PM
BumpInTheNight: Hacker_X: Kaybeck: Hacker_X: G+ gives you actual privacy controls...

You do realize that the ENTIRE reason G+ was created was so they could mine your data and sell it to advertisers right?

If Google and facebook wanted to look at your credit card/bank statements to track your spending habits you'd tell them to fark off but they build a social networking site and people give them that info willingly.

What info? They have an e-mail address and a handle. I for one am not foolish enough to use my real info online. What info could they even mine? That I had shown interest in certain websites or news items? A general analysis of what items certain demographics are clicking on (assuming those demographics actually gave you real info about who they are) is a far cry from access to banking records.

Guess what, google has a policy of 'real name only' and bans accounts that they catch trying to side step that. That in itself is probably why I'm the most leary of google+, its just creepy. Oh and keep in mind if you're doing that sort of thing or anything else their disney-like policies deem unacceptable it not only kills the g+ account but everything else associated with that gmail address too.


Try telling that to my account that has been active since the closed beta. If they actually do have that as a listed policy nobody is enforcing it.
 
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