FTA: The Texas governor referenced Lawrence v. Texas in his 2010 book Fed Up!, calling it one of the court cases in which "Texans have a different view of the world than do the nine oligarchs in robes."

I realize most politicians have their books ghost-written for them, but really, this one is just blatantly obvious. There's no way in hell Perry has ever used the word "oligarch" all by himself.

From wiki: (new window)

The governor of Texas is the head of the executive branch of Texas's government and the commander-in-chief of the state's military forces. The governor has the power to either approve or veto bills passed by the Texas Legislature, and to convene the legislature. The governor may grant pardons in cases other than impeachment (but only when recommended by the Board of Pardons and Paroles) or in the case of treason, with permission by the legislature.

Compared to the governors of other U.S. states, the governorship of Texas has been cited by Slate magazine and liberal commentator Molly Ivins as a fairly weak office.[1][2] In some respects it is the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, who presides over the state Senate, who is a more powerful political figure able to exercise greater personal prerogatives.[1][2]. Current Governor Rick Perry served as Lieutenant Governor from 1999-2000, under George W. Bush.

That decision probably includes oral as sodomy as well.

That blows.

abb3w: Asking about a Supreme Court case, striking down a Texas Law, while Perry was governor, on an issue Perry strongly disagrees with the court on is a "gotcha question"?


Rick Perry isn't ashamed to admit he doesn't know about sodomy.

/hot

Good hair is imploding under the half-hearted scrutiny of Texan-based reporting...Can't say that I didn't see this coming.

He's a intellectual lightweight and it's good to see him getting thrashed over his lack of understanding of monumental things that occurred during his own term of office.

Perry: Reading anything about gayness makes me uncomfortable and slightly tingly in my britches, so I avoid it at all costs.

I'm not sure why this brainfart is notable, other than it involved buttsecks. A Texas governor unaware of reality outside their state? Haven't we been down this road before?

Haven't we learned anything? Eggheads are terrible people to trust to run things. Put people who don't know anything about the law or history in charge: they promise to ignore what the law and courts say and do what's right. Anything else would be tyrannical.

BolloxReader: I'm not sure why this brainfart is notable, other than it involved buttsecks. A Texas governor unaware of reality outside their state? Haven't we been down this road before?

Well, just the fact that it happened under his watch and he has cited it by name in his written works, only for it now to be unfair to expect him to know what it is.

Wait...so Parry feels sodomy should have remained illegal?

I guess that tells us a lot about his marriage! _{and maybe those other rumors....}

Perry is the kind of guy that doesn't even give reach-arounds.

Peering into my crystal ball...

September 24th, 2013
Steer Rectum, TX - Former governor and Presidential candidate Rick Perry was today able to fully recount his name, address, place of birth, and the names of his immediate family members.

Today marks the end of an incredible string of over 700 days in which Rick Perry has failed to remember important details about his life, his work, his time as governor, and his approach to governance.

Aides quickly pointed out that Perry has "a mind like a steel trap. He once beat George W. Bush at a game of 10x10 Memory - no easy feat."

President Obama, on hearing the news, responded "Who?" He later added "I'm glad that those unfortunate Americans with cognitive disabilities or degenerative conditions affecting memory will be assured of access to insurance for their medical care."

I thought 'sodomy' in a lot of states in the US, was not 'sodomy' per se, but just anything that's not missionary position between two consenting adults ?

The troublesome thing is that Santorum has reappeared like a bad stain, after being wiped off the Senate floor.

I would like to know what the exact question was, though...

Dr Dreidel:
Aides quickly pointed out that Perry has "a mind like a steel trap. He once beat George W. Bush at a game of 10x10 Memory - no easy feat."
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Say what you want about the intelligence of Dubya, but Perry is far dumber than Bush ever was on a bad day.

Rick Santorum frothing at the mouth for the chance to backdoor his way into the issue, no buts about it

Normally, I would say something like, "Subby, you magnificent bastard", but that is, alas, now the standard Santorum comment.

Still, good that you included it.

Coming on a Bicycle: I thought 'sodomy' in a lot of states in the US, was not 'sodomy' per se, but just anything that's not missionary position between two consenting adults ?

Pretty much, things like oral and anal sex by heterosexual couples has been covered by sodomy laws.

Coming on a Bicycle: I thought 'sodomy' in a lot of states in the US, was not 'sodomy' per se, but just anything that's not missionary position between two consenting adults ?

It was often a catch-all for the "unnatural acts." The word as defined today can still include oral sex. This can get the law into trouble if sodomy is not defined somewhere.

What a retard. Really Texas, really? I know the best and brightest rarely serve in high government...

abb3w: Asking about a Supreme Court case, striking down a Texas Law, while Perry was governor, on an issue Perry strongly disagrees with the court on is a "gotcha question"

Maybe not a gotcha, but an irrelevant to gay marriage question. Lawrence v. Texas was decided on privacy grounds, not equal protection. I'm not aware of Perry having said he wants sodomy to be illegal again. Could you provide a cite for that?

I wonder how many "ha ha ha dumb Republican Perry, so typical!" libs in here knew that, or even understand the distinction once I pointed it out.

gimmegimme: Wait...so Parry feels sodomy should have remained illegal?

Proving my point...

The room's startin to spin real fast... cause of... cause of all the gayness.

StanTheMan: abb3w: Asking about a Supreme Court case, striking down a Texas Law, while Perry was governor, on an issue Perry strongly disagrees with the court on is a "gotcha question"

Maybe not a gotcha, but an irrelevant to gay marriage question. Lawrence v. Texas was decided on privacy grounds, not equal protection. I'm not aware of Perry having said he wants sodomy to be illegal again. Could you provide a cite for that?

I wonder how many "ha ha ha dumb Republican Perry, so typical!" libs in here knew that, or even understand the distinction once I pointed it out.

gimmegimme: Wait...so Parry feels sodomy should have remained illegal?

Proving my point...

And Roe v. Wade was decided on privacy grounds. Are you implying that Roe is irrelevant with respect to the abortion debate?

mithras_angel: Normally, I would say something like, "Subby, you magnificent bastard", but that is, alas, now the standard Santorum comment.

Still, good that you included it.

Long since played out.

meanmutton: I would like to know what the exact question was, though...

Me too; from what I understand it was something along the lines of "How can you justify your criticism of the Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas while at the same time claim to be for limited government?" and his response was to say that expecting him to know every Supreme Court decision someone would ask him about was ridiculous.

FTA: "Texans have a different view of the world than do the nine oligarchs in robes."
Perry had a previous Supreme Court trip up earlier in the month when he misstated the number of justices on the Supreme Court

So Rick...who are these oligarchs that you speak of? or did you confuse 'oligarchs' with 'all the gays'?

Grungehamster: meanmutton: I would like to know what the exact question was, though...

Me too; from what I understand it was something along the lines of "How can you justify your criticism of the Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas while at the same time claim to be for limited government?" and his response was to say that expecting him to know every Supreme Court decision someone would ask him about was ridiculous.

And to simultaneously downplay the importance of the Supreme Court and suggest that people stop pestering him with trivial issues like rights when he could be talking about money.

Titor's Time Machine: In your post regarding Governor Rick Perry, what specific case did you cite that was decided on privacy grounds?

Lawrence v. Texas. Now you aren't seriously going to play a cute little semantics game with penumbras, are you?

Bucky Katt: Asking any politician to actually know anything is a "gotcha" question.


That's because they are all 1%ers.

gimmegimme: And Roe v. Wade was decided on privacy grounds. Are you implying that Roe is irrelevant with respect to the abortion debate?

Holy crap, that's a whole lotta stupid in a mere two sentences.

Judicial activism aside, if you believe in a substantive privacy right, it is relevant to a private medical procedure like abortion (then again, so would be active involuntary euthanasia of one's elderly parent, but I digress).

In contrast, a "right to privacy" has no bearing on a state officially recognizing a marriage.

StanTheMan: gimmegimme: And Roe v. Wade was decided on privacy grounds. Are you implying that Roe is irrelevant with respect to the abortion debate?

Holy crap, that's a whole lotta stupid in a mere two sentences.

Judicial activism aside, if you believe in a substantive privacy right, it is relevant to a private medical procedure like abortion (then again, so would be active involuntary euthanasia of one's elderly parent, but I digress).

In contrast, a "right to privacy" has no bearing on a state officially recognizing a marriage.

Would you please define "judicial activism" and please tell me how it is different from a judge's explicit job description, which is to interpret the law?

Maybe it's just me, but I think that if you expect to be the head of a government you ought to know a goshed-darn lot about how that government works.

You can be stupid and the governor of Texas. Nobody will notice as long as you don't screw with high school football or try to pretend that black people have rights. But we expect higher things at the Federal level. Sorry, Rick, but your GED scores just aren't high enough to get into that college.