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(PhysOrg.com) Obvious Researchers deconstruct the physics of writing (capillary surface tension, viscosity, nib speed) with a fountain pen. Meanwhile, everyone under the age of 87 asks, "what the hell is a fountain pen?"   (physorg.com) divider line 46
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2011-12-30 01:59:01 PM
Too long, too sciencey, I only skimmed the article. I am just here to say that I love using a fountain pen on good paper. Even the disposable fountain pens one might acquire at their local office supply retailer do a decent job, and so long as you're not writing left-handed, a fountain pen can even make the shiattiest handwriting look slightly better.
 
2011-12-30 02:31:30 PM
I dearly love writing with fountain pens. Good pen, good ink, good paper... it just makes me want to create something that has merit in meaning and is visually pleasing.
 
2011-12-30 04:04:15 PM
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get an inkjet cartridge to work when you've filled it with human blood?
 
2011-12-30 04:08:16 PM
Add me to the list of happy fountain pen users. I'm even happy with the under $5 drug store "Shaeffer" pen I've had since junior high school.
 
2011-12-30 04:12:32 PM
Staffist: So long as you're not writing left-handed, a fountain pen can even make the shiattiest handwriting look slightly better.

And that's precisely the reason why I could never use one. Fountain pens aside...Given the legendary smudgability of soft-leaded #2 pencils and those smeary-as-hell "erasable pens" that were all the rage when I was in grade school, I don't think I've EVER produced a piece of longhand writing that didn't look like someone wiped their ass on it.
 
2011-12-30 05:09:07 PM
I've got yer fountain pen right here...*grabs crotch*
 
2011-12-30 05:26:53 PM
Staffist: ...and so long as you're not writing left-handed, a fountain pen can even make the shiattiest handwriting look slightly better.

As a left-handed fountain pen fan with the shiattiest handwriting, I have to disagree: even if you are writing left-handed, a fountain pen can improve things. The catch is that you have to slow down a little, so the ink dries enough to not smudge all over the place.
 
2011-12-30 05:29:55 PM
I never could get the hang of those...skips, blots, scratches. It really makes me admire the skills of those who left us with extraordinary penmanship with nothing more than a split goose quill and an inkwell.
 
2011-12-30 05:31:20 PM
some.old.lady.: I dearly love writing with fountain pens. Good pen, good ink, good paper... it just makes me want to create something that has merit in meaning and is visually pleasing.

Your posts are visually pleasing:) Always positive! Cheers old lady
 
2011-12-30 05:55:45 PM
my Mont Blanc asks "What's a fountain pen"
 
2011-12-30 06:10:43 PM
I have a couple of retractable Pilot fountain pens that I dearly love. Seconf the comments of some.old.lady
 
2011-12-30 06:17:14 PM
I need to buy a fountain pen, but the ones I want are obscenely expensive here. I do, however, love my plain wooden pen with interchangeable nibs which I dip into ink. I love how writing with that pen changes how I think - the words I use, and the way I use them. I write in very different tones depending one whether I am using my glass pen (bought in Venice), my wooden pen (bought near Geneva), or my feather (bought in the US). I love it.

Now if only my handwriting were better....
 
2011-12-30 06:18:06 PM
Third the comments of http://some.old.lady/
 
2011-12-30 06:34:55 PM
Man... I don't handwrite anything more than a quick sentence or two on a post-it note or a piece of scrap paper maybe once a week depending on what I'm working on. My handwriting has degraded to about Kindergarten level thanks to computers.

I'll bet two generations from now people will be asking what a pen is.
 
2011-12-30 06:37:46 PM
Fountain pens are so smooth
 
2011-12-30 06:38:39 PM
Came here to say fountain pens just aren't meant for leftys like me. I see it's been covered. Always wanted one too.

MaxxLarge: Staffist: So long as you're not writing left-handed, a fountain pen can even make the shiattiest handwriting look slightly better.

And that's precisely the reason why I could never use one. Fountain pens aside...Given the legendary smudgability of soft-leaded #2 pencils and those smeary-as-hell "erasable pens" that were all the rage when I was in grade school, I don't think I've EVER produced a piece of longhand writing that didn't look like someone wiped their ass on it.


Dear god this. The side of my hand always looked like I rubbed it in charcoal.
 
2011-12-30 06:43:23 PM
Love my Pilot Varsity disposables. Not so much on newsprint or other low-quality paper. It's cool seeing the letters shine for five or ten seconds before the paper absorbs the ink. Makes a cool scratching noise too, and it takes absolutely no pressure for the pen to write.
 
2011-12-30 07:44:14 PM
I care about how my words look as much as what I say, that is why I type in comic sans.
 
2011-12-30 07:58:01 PM
yabbut,yer still not funny.//i keed
BigLuca: I care about how my words look as much as what I say, that is why I type in comic sans.
 
2011-12-30 08:01:04 PM
jimpoz: Love my Pilot Varsity disposables. Not so much on newsprint or other low-quality paper. It's cool seeing the letters shine for five or ten seconds before the paper absorbs the ink. Makes a cool scratching noise too, and it takes absolutely no pressure for the pen to write.

Picked up a couple of those on Amazon to try them out (and also to test my new Amazon Prime membership by ordering just one), and I love them. I'll be getting more.

I just can't trust myself with an expensive fountain pen, and this seems like a good compromise.
 
2011-12-30 08:22:20 PM
Fountain pens are, in a word, awesome.

Acme makes some nice pens that you can use as a fountain pen.

/left handed
//Typed from my iPad. Which will never be as cool as a good fountain pen.
 
2011-12-30 08:32:56 PM
I just finished calligraphy & illumination on a scroll for the SCA, so I'm getting a kick...

Seriously, I love the feel of penmanship - the personal, almost intimate act of writing, by hand, something important enough to do by hand on paper. If I had a nickel every time I'd provided a scroll, or a sign, or a letter, or a note, in which I had thought about font, kerning, color, design, flow, I still couldn't afford to pay for the supplies but it'd be worth it.

One of my best friends took the time & effort to write and illuminate Christmas cards by hand, because she, too, loves the art. Those who lay ink to paper with a nib or steel brush are a tiny, dying breed, but we're still out there, keeping Speedball in business.
 
2011-12-30 08:42:38 PM
I wish I could write well, but it's a perishable skill that I don't have time to maintain.

These days I'm struggling to keep my signature from getting worse. It's degrading to the point where it's deviating from the copies my bank has on file, and that worries me.
 
2011-12-30 08:56:53 PM
some.old.lady.: I dearly love writing with fountain pens. Good pen, good ink, good paper... it just makes me want to create something that has merit in meaning and is visually pleasing.

Oh yes. My grandparents swore by fountain pens when I was growing up, and I largely ignored them because, well, pens are boring and dinosaurs are cool. But, when I entered high school they bought me my first fountain pen, a really nice, solid, beautiful thing. I love to write, and I'll cut off a man's finger for ink if I'm desperate enough, but I loved that pen.

I really need to get myself another one. Although those waterproof, fadeproof, .5mm gel pens are magnificent things. Not anywhere as thin as I like them, but oh they make writing a thing of pleasure.

/yes, I actually enjoy hand written notes during the holidays
 
2011-12-30 09:48:22 PM
Never could afford the high end ones, but I love writing with my Waterman.
 
2011-12-30 10:20:35 PM
jimpoz: Love my Pilot Varsity disposables. Not so much on newsprint or other low-quality paper. It's cool seeing the letters shine for five or ten seconds before the paper absorbs the ink. Makes a cool scratching noise too, and it takes absolutely no pressure for the pen to write.

Came here to say this. I use them religiously. But then again, I am one of the few people who still hand-writes letters to people.

/replace them about every 6 months
//would dearly love a fancy high-end one just to use for the calligraphy
 
2011-12-30 10:32:12 PM
I have a number of fountain pens. This one is was cool because it had retractable PDA nib on one end. Sadly, I can't think of a way to make it work with capacitive screens:

www.oldschoolpens.com

I also like my Rotring 700, a slender Waterman with a lacquer finish, a capless Japanese model with a retractable nib, and a few others including one with an oblique nib for signatures. I use blue Parker Quink and I have cigar-sized portable inkwell. If ballpoints produced a better line on paper, I'd use them.
 
2011-12-30 11:06:15 PM
The fountain pens containing the little plastic cylinders filled with ink suited me just fine ... junior high, I think it was - right around 1973. Yes, because I remember the dark blue stain on my light blue shirt pocket.
 
2011-12-30 11:25:04 PM
I have a Waterman that I absolutely love.
 
2011-12-30 11:56:41 PM

Bah. Everybody who knows anything about technology should be using the Fisher Space Pen

www.spacepenlebanon.com
 
2011-12-31 12:07:19 AM
Pen pron thread? Excellent!
 
2011-12-31 12:42:06 AM
You young uns and your fancy-shmancy technology. Fountain pens? Pah, the only real way to write is to use actual goosequills.
 
2011-12-31 01:39:37 AM
LesserEvil: Bah. Everybody who knows anything about technology should be using the Fisher Space Pen

[www.spacepenlebanon.com image 431x363]


I've always wondered about why someone would go through the trouble to design a pen that would write in space. The Russians had it right on that: just use a farking pencil.
 
2011-12-31 02:14:28 AM
LesserEvil: Bah. Everybody who knows anything about technology should be using the Fisher Space Pen

[www.spacepenlebanon.com image 431x363]


Funny. When American engineers were trying to work out a pressurized pen to use in the Apollo program, the Soviets opted for pencils.
 
2011-12-31 02:29:01 AM
I'm 22 and I love fountain pens. I have 3. Two Lamys and a Twsbi. If you're looking for a piston filler pen you can't go wrong with the Twsbi.
 
2011-12-31 02:33:46 AM
And for the people that just want a cheap disposable fountain pen, I really like the Platinum Preppy. I have a purple one that I use to supplement my midnight blue ink in my Twsbi.
 
2011-12-31 03:04:41 AM
buckler: Funny. When American engineers were trying to work out a pressurized pen to use in the Apollo program, the Soviets opted for pencils.

...which was debunked by Snopes.
 
2011-12-31 03:21:54 AM
aerojockey: buckler: Funny. When American engineers were trying to work out a pressurized pen to use in the Apollo program, the Soviets opted for pencils.

...which was debunked by Snopes.


Excellent! Thank you.
 
2011-12-31 04:46:35 AM
I remember carrying fountain pens and bottles of ink to school when I was in elementary school. I hated the ink stains you'd get on your fingers and left handed students had a biatch of a time keeping their writing free of smudges. We also wore uniforms. I'm 32 and grew up in Eastern Europe.

/CSB
 
2011-12-31 09:05:58 AM
Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: LesserEvil: Bah. Everybody who knows anything about technology should be using the Fisher Space Pen

[www.spacepenlebanon.com image 431x363]

I've always wondered about why someone would go through the trouble to design a pen that would write in space. The Russians had it right on that: just use a farking pencil.


buckler: Funny. When American engineers were trying to work out a pressurized pen to use in the Apollo program, the Soviets opted for pencils.

Actually, both programs used pencils, and BOTH PROGRAMS adopted the Space Pen (Soviets did in 1969). The Space Pen wasn't developed with US Tax Dollars or any mandate from NASA... they did, however, desperately need something to replace pencils which had their own issues in space (wooden pencils burn easily, very bad news, and mechanical pencils tended to result in broken pieces of graphite floating around).

The "Space Pen vs. Pencil" story is funny, but not at all true.
 
2011-12-31 11:30:35 AM
LesserEvil: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: LesserEvil: Bah. Everybody who knows anything about technology should be using the Fisher Space Pen

[www.spacepenlebanon.com image 431x363]

I've always wondered about why someone would go through the trouble to design a pen that would write in space. The Russians had it right on that: just use a farking pencil.

buckler: Funny. When American engineers were trying to work out a pressurized pen to use in the Apollo program, the Soviets opted for pencils.

Actually, both programs used pencils, and BOTH PROGRAMS adopted the Space Pen (Soviets did in 1969). The Space Pen wasn't developed with US Tax Dollars or any mandate from NASA... they did, however, desperately need something to replace pencils which had their own issues in space (wooden pencils burn easily, very bad news, and mechanical pencils tended to result in broken pieces of graphite floating around).

The "Space Pen vs. Pencil" story is funny, but not at all true.


yeah, I saw the Snopes link. It was one of those things I'd read, seen and heard so often that I never second-guessed it. Looking at it from that perspective, though, that makes sense. Having snapped-off crumbs and bits of very conductive, very flammable stuff floating around. Thanks! I always appreciate a day when I learn something.
 
2011-12-31 01:58:08 PM
Swoop1809: I'm 22 and I love fountain pens. I have 3. Two Lamys and a Twsbi. If you're looking for a piston filler pen you can't go wrong with the Twsbi.

I also have two Lamys. Nice pens. Also had a Pelikano. It was ok. It got stolen at work, which annoyed me. I paid decent money for that pen (all of $16).

They also make left-handed fountain pens, for those who want to test them out.
 
2011-12-31 03:52:07 PM
I'll just stick with this:
static2.pilotpen.us
/hot like the writing of a lover with good penmanship
 
2011-12-31 10:58:27 PM
Another left-handed fountain pen lover. I have quite a handful, about the maximum I could have and keep a decent rotation going. I wholeheartedly encourage anyone slightly interested in them to try them out - it makes the process of writing very, very...pleasurable? is perhaps the best way to put it.

There are a couple of sources of information on the web about them for beginners:
Richard Binder (new window) is a vendor/repair guru who has a bunch of good information about the language and mechanics, and
The Fountain Pen Network (new window) is a forum centered around fountain pens, and they are very willing to help out new converts to the hobby.

Not affiliated with either of the above, aside from being a FPN member (with the same handle)
 
2012-01-01 12:15:02 AM
FormlessOne: I just finished calligraphy & illumination on a scroll for the SCA, so I'm getting a kick...

Seriously, I love the feel of penmanship - the personal, almost intimate act of writing, by hand, something important enough to do by hand on paper. If I had a nickel every time I'd provided a scroll, or a sign, or a letter, or a note, in which I had thought about font, kerning, color, design, flow, I still couldn't afford to pay for the supplies but it'd be worth it.

One of my best friends took the time & effort to write and illuminate Christmas cards by hand, because she, too, loves the art. Those who lay ink to paper with a nib or steel brush are a tiny, dying breed, but we're still out there, keeping Speedball in business.


*fistbump*

I love doing calligraphy and illumination, been doing it for years. Not only is it good for the occasional gift or freelance project (wedding invitations, etc), I think it just makes people feel special when you take the time to compose and write out a letter on beautiful paper, then close it with wax and a seal.

If you like using sealing wax, btw, check out www.nostalgicimpressions.com. They have all kinds of lovely stuff for really reasonable prices.
 
2012-01-01 04:19:54 AM
Vermicious Knids: I love doing calligraphy and illumination, been doing it for years. Not only is it good for the occasional gift or freelance project (wedding invitations, etc), I think it just makes people feel special when you take the time to compose and write out a letter on beautiful paper, then close it with wax and a seal.

Time and attention are far better currencies than anything in my wallet, and I like spending both on my friends.

If you like using sealing wax, btw, check out www.nostalgicimpressions.com. They have all kinds of lovely stuff for really reasonable prices.

The benefit of living in the Puget Sound area is that I have a couple of huge art supply warehouses to which I make regular pilgrimages. I'm a big fan of Daniel Smith, because although their prices can be steep for some things, their selection almost justifies them. My scribe's kit includes sealing gear.
 
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