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(Economist)   Point: The Republican Party is a dysfunctional mess. Counterpoint: Ooh, look at me, I read The Economist   (economist.com) divider line 7
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2011-12-30 02:28:17 PM  
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Diogenes: I was going more for the "long view" than to establish equivalence. And I think it's important to distinguish between the current candidates and the party as a whole

(emphasis mine) A dysfunctional party will produce dysfunctional candidates. And there are plenty of reasons why some potentially more qualified/suited candidates are hanging back this turn.

Here's one of the parts I'm having a little trouble with. The other is the time scale.

In this election cycle's run-up, at the Republican debates, we've seen audiences--not just the candidates on stage, but statistically significant portions of hose people trusted enough to sit in the auditorium and watch--cheering the execution of innocent men, cheering the deaths of people without health insurance, and booing a soldier because he was gay. If they have any sort of moral compass, either they're reading it wrong or they have a very special compass that points reliably at the west pole. Or to borrow a bygone line, "they threw i ching ...out the window. They are now unanimous."

The points that I'm trying to make are:

First, it's not just the candidates. The collection of clown shoes on display are there because they have fairly broad support from the party. They are what the leaders among the Republicans consider the best and the brightest. There may be people that'd make better candidates among them (hell, there'd better be), but they are either busy elsewhere, overlooked, laying low for their own self-preservation, or being told to STFU while the adults* are talking.

The other line of thought is worse. To assume that the leaders of the Republicans have put this lot before us because they aren't their best and brightest, and that the presidential election doesn't matter this year, is to admit to yourself that not only is the Republican leadership hard-bitten, cynical, and interested in little more than gaming the system for their own benefit, but also that that the rank-and-file among the Republicans are so non-discerning and intent on cheering their own side that they'd applaud an undercooked potato (R-usset).

Second, if the Democrats between 1976 and 2000 showed "dysfunction," then what the Republicans are showing now is "bat-shiat bug-fark insanity." To find wharrgarbl this thick and chewy among the Democrats (and I mean those people who had crowds cheering them, not just individual moonbats), you're going to have to go back a lot farther than 1976.

* term used unironically, ironically.
2011-12-30 02:37:27 PM  
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you will now re-read the headline in Homer Simpson's voice
2011-12-30 01:05:20 PM  
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MFL: 3. The only hope the worst president in modern history has to get a second term is for him to deem his opponents unelectable.


The worst president in history already had two terms.
2011-12-30 12:20:11 PM  
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DamnYankees: I dont know why, but this headline made me laugh.


It's because OP stole it from the Onion.
MFL
2011-12-30 11:24:29 AM  
1 votes:
1. Romney is a 100 times more accomplished in life than Barack Obama and would obviously make a better president.

2. Gingrich is 1000 times more accomplished in life than Barack Obama and would obviously make a better president.

3. The only hope the worst president in modern history has to get a second term is for him to deem his opponents unelectable.

4. You guys are putting in the effort I give you that, but in reality you are just stroking yourselves
2011-12-30 11:16:26 AM  
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tcan: Otherwise Just Fine: The economist is a very expensive liberal magazine to subscribe to. I bought a subscription for every member of my family who went 'bagger.

It's a sneaky way to get information from a liberal viewpoint to people who don't want to be exposed to information. It actually helped immensely. The 'bagger relatives can have decent conversation with me about articles from the magazine, and we can talk about some things in a liberally biased factual way, which is nice.

But damned expensive.

There FIFY


Since when did that stand for "farked it for you"?
2011-12-30 11:13:42 AM  
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Otherwise Just Fine: The economist is a very expensive liberal magazine to subscribe to. I bought a subscription for every member of my family who went 'bagger.

It's a sneaky way to get information from a liberal viewpoint to people who don't want to be exposed to information. It actually helped immensely. The 'bagger relatives can have decent conversation with me about articles from the magazine, and we can talk about some things in a liberally biased factual way, which is nice.

But damned expensive.


There FIFY
 
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