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2011-12-30 11:50:11 AM

rickythepenguin: [cdn2.hark.com image 284x211]
kronicfeld: They were talking about a LOSING team, not an "inferior team." You're either a liar or an amnesiac, take your pick.

actual pic of kronicfeld


PunchDrunkPanda: I still like the idea Simmons/Cousin Sal proposed, along the lines of 1st round BYE recipients and/or HFA holders get to choose their opponents in the next round. Sort of calling-them-out.

yeah, that was a cool idea. that would be AWESOME.


kronicfeld: The complaint was a losing team getting in over multiple 10-win teams.

that was part of the argument, but there were also folks mad that they had to travel despite winning more games.


Something I've mentioned before: I've been of the opinion that the NFL playoff formula is a seriously flawed scheme since the Browns got in at .500 in '85, and in that year, a Denver team that went 11-5 didn't make the playoffs. People just never think about this stuff until it's their ox getting gored, of course.
 
2011-12-30 11:51:15 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I don't see how you can keep a division winner out of the playoffs. Deny them home field? Maybe.


If the division winner and a wild-card holder have the same record, their kickers show up in a neutral dome and start booting 50-yarders. Snake format (A B B A A B B A A B B etc). First team to hold serve gets home field.
 
2011-12-30 12:01:19 PM

forgotmydamnusername: rickythepenguin: [cdn2.hark.com image 284x211]
kronicfeld: They were talking about a LOSING team, not an "inferior team." You're either a liar or an amnesiac, take your pick.

actual pic of kronicfeld


PunchDrunkPanda: I still like the idea Simmons/Cousin Sal proposed, along the lines of 1st round BYE recipients and/or HFA holders get to choose their opponents in the next round. Sort of calling-them-out.

yeah, that was a cool idea. that would be AWESOME.


kronicfeld: The complaint was a losing team getting in over multiple 10-win teams.

that was part of the argument, but there were also folks mad that they had to travel despite winning more games.

Something I've mentioned before: I've been of the opinion that the NFL playoff formula is a seriously flawed scheme since the Browns got in at .500 in '85, and in that year, a Denver team that went 11-5 didn't make the playoffs. People just never think about this stuff until it's their ox getting gored, of course.


I don't think it's flawed. Having divisions promotes rivalry, adds excitement to the game and keeps it interesting. Being a native Texan, I have been a Cowboys fan since I fell out of the clown car. I couldn't care less about the Oakland Raiders or Cleveland Browns, but I do keep up with the Eagles, Redskins and Giants as they are our NFC East rivals. To do this I read other teams blogs, forums, watch them on tv, etc.... thereby creating additional viewer/readership.

We all know any team can win on any given day. Just because you win the NFC West doesn't mean you are better than the winner of the NFC East even though you may have a better win-loss record.

/when JJ passes,Tom Landry will be at the gates of heaven
//nothing more needs to be said
 
2011-12-30 12:24:26 PM

dj1s: Wait! People still watch American football? Why?

/American
//Still think it is a dumb game
///I do appreciate the Super Bowl if for no other reason than I can go for a bike ride without all the a$$h0le car drivers on the road. Thanks, NFL!
////We should have a Super Bowl ever farking day, AFAIAC.


Any minute now, you're going to start talking about how you don't even own a TV, even though nobody asked.
 
2011-12-30 12:25:50 PM
If a division winner has 5 wins it is by definition the qualified team, and you can't complain. Or if you can, then you should be advocating a reformat of the rules to prevent 5 win teams from getting in. Or, you only selectively complain, which is what we out west have known all along.

Trust me, if it were 7 win New York winning the East this year, there would be nary a peep about changing the rules after the fact to prevent it.
 
2011-12-30 12:35:15 PM

Generation_D: Trust me, if it were 7 win New York winning the East this year, there would be nary a peep about changing the rules after the fact to prevent it.


Of course there would be, except from Giants fans.
 
2011-12-30 12:35:57 PM

Generation_D: we out west


Oh, also, if you don't like "east coast bias," try having less shiatty teams out west.
 
2011-12-30 12:41:39 PM

merkey88: akuma976: Jerry JonesDan Snyder is the new Al Davis.

Until he learns to stay in the owners, box the CowboysRedskins will forever be mediocre at best. Promoting the offensive coordinator who's first and last option was to "pitch it to choice"Rehiring a coach who was out of football and more worried about NASCAR for a dozen years doesn't help either. Keeping a 40 year old backup quarterback to backup a starting quarterback whos top three recievers are: Jason Witten, Jason Witten, and Jason Witten'sChris Cooley, Chris Cooley, and Chris Cooley's back wont get you out of the first round.into the playoffs.


QFT

/our rivalry has a sad. We need new owners, before it's too late to stop an entire generation of potential fans to get disgusted and not go to games.
 
2011-12-30 12:42:10 PM
Oh, also, it's somehow a shocker that people didn't piss and moan about a losing team making the playoffs and hosting a playoff game until it, you know, actually happened? Amazing.

I remember in 2002 or 2003 two 8-8 teams - Rams and Vikings or Packers, I think - both made the playoffs, and it was generally considered something of a joke. So there's been plenty of consistency in condemning the lame outcomes of this format.
 
2011-12-30 12:49:04 PM

kronicfeld: Generation_D: we out west

Oh, also, if you don't like "east coast bias," try having less shiatty teams out west.


But they're not shiatty out here. We just have 1/100 the national media noise about how great we are. As well as a non stop stream of guys such as yourself telling all and sundry how superior the east is, except when it isn't, then you miraculously change the subject.

Though there's always a table waiting for San Francisco, the rest of the west is quite used to living with being ignored or ridiculed. Its what you people do.
 
2011-12-30 12:50:21 PM
Jerry Jones is a grand champion jerk but the team has made it to more Super Bowls than anyone else in the NFL.

\\\ But I still hate them.
 
2011-12-30 12:50:47 PM

Generation_D: kronicfeld: Generation_D: Plenty of the pundits wanted the current playoff format scrapped, and "10 wins or more" as the new requirement.

Bull. The complaint was a losing team getting in over multiple 10-win teams. Rewrite history all you want, but that was the issue for the vast, overwhelming majority of fans and "pundits." I'm sure there are a few out there who meet your recollection, but overall it was the NBA (or, worse, college bowl)-quality rule that lets shiatty-ass, losing teams into the playoff hunt and lets them luck-box a win or three. If we're going to do that, let's just let the entire league in, because, hey, the Colts COULD upset someone and prove that they "deserved" to be there.

But that wasnt the argument being made, the argument being made was scrap the current playoff format because "undeserving" 7-9 Seattle got in.

Either the format is legit, or plenty of other undeservings have gotten in, including whatever mediocrity comes out of the NFC East this year.

7 wins or 9, it really doesn't make a ton of difference, either you want to realign the playoffs without divisions being a factor and use total wins instead, or you must accept that whoever WINS THEIR DIVISION is legit. Period. You can't cherry pick and say oh, but Seattle can't be in because .... and then 180 pivot on your swivel chair and say "Buuuuut New York deserves because..."

Its either the format sucks or it doesn't. Last year, the punditry of ESPN and elsewhere said the format sucked. Why? because look at those embarrassing pathetic Seahawks, not deserving to get in even though *by the rules everyone agreed to play by they won* ... It was all about how we had to change the rules.

Now this year with no rules change, and *another mediocrity about to enter the playoffs* ... we get not only silence, but ... hey, it happens, just another year, some year there's always a low-win team that gets in.

Can't have it both ways. I don't see a big diff 7 wins or 9, if its a division winner it qualifies. Or you change the rules. But for some reason, and I suspect its because its NEW YORK OR DALLAS OR AN EAST COAST TEAM .. we hear nada, all we hear is how great the game this sunday will be.

Forgetting last year we had a similar battle between the Rams and Hawks, winner qualifies. Nobody suggested it was an Instant classic, but .. it was exactly like this weekend Giants/Cowboys will be ... minus all the east coast hype, of course.


Wonder what the pundits would have if Seattle had gone all the way...
 
2011-12-30 12:51:22 PM

CaptSS: forgotmydamnusername: rickythepenguin: [cdn2.hark.com image 284x211]
kronicfeld: They were talking about a LOSING team, not an "inferior team." You're either a liar or an amnesiac, take your pick.

actual pic of kronicfeld


PunchDrunkPanda: I still like the idea Simmons/Cousin Sal proposed, along the lines of 1st round BYE recipients and/or HFA holders get to choose their opponents in the next round. Sort of calling-them-out.

yeah, that was a cool idea. that would be AWESOME.


kronicfeld: The complaint was a losing team getting in over multiple 10-win teams.

that was part of the argument, but there were also folks mad that they had to travel despite winning more games.

Something I've mentioned before: I've been of the opinion that the NFL playoff formula is a seriously flawed scheme since the Browns got in at .500 in '85, and in that year, a Denver team that went 11-5 didn't make the playoffs. People just never think about this stuff until it's their ox getting gored, of course.

I don't think it's flawed. Having divisions promotes rivalry, adds excitement to the game and keeps it interesting. Being a native Texan, I have been a Cowboys fan since I fell out of the clown car. I couldn't care less about the Oakland Raiders or Cleveland Browns, but I do keep up with the Eagles, Redskins and Giants as they are our NFC East rivals. To do this I read other teams blogs, forums, watch them on tv, etc.... thereby creating additional viewer/readership.

We all know any team can win on any given day. Just because you win the NFC West doesn't mean you are better than the winner of the NFC East even though you may have a better win-loss record.

/when JJ passes,Tom Landry will be at the gates of heaven
//nothing more needs to be said


I just want to see the best teams get in, and as pure as possible a wins and losses criteria seems to me to do the best job of that. My preferred scheme would greatly reduce the importance of winning the division. It could be used as a tie-breaker, or to guarantee a home game if the division winner was otherwise qualified for the playoffs. However, because people are motivated by dumb things constantly, and almost any excuse will do to be fractious, I very much doubt that any division rivalries would actually be de-escalated if my little plan were ever actually implemented.
 
2011-12-30 12:57:09 PM

Generation_D: But they're not shiatty out here. We just have 1/100 the national media noise about how great we are.


The totally not-shiatty Cardinals, Rams, Chargers, Raiders and Seahawks should be getting soooo much more attention, right. Yes, this year Frisco is killing it, and they're getting tons of attention. And, Christ - no pun intended - quasi-WC team Denver is getting more media attention than anybody.

Mentalenemasquad: Wonder what the pundits would have if Seattle had gone all the way...


They would have said "omg let's expand the playoff field to 2/3 of the league cuz who knows when a 4-12 might run the table!" or something comparable. Which, of course, is retarded.
 
2011-12-30 12:59:21 PM
I have a feeling Jones kills animals after every Cowboy home loss. He looks like he is constipated...so constipated.
 
2011-12-30 01:00:14 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I don't see how you can keep a division winner out of the playoffs. Deny them home field? Maybe.


I agree... I've always been, if you are going to have "divisions", then, you have to at least let the division winners into the playoff structure... otherwise, why have divisions. I would agree though that they shouldn't be guaranteed home field, especially with having 4 divisions now. Back with 3 divisions, it would be pretty rare for 2 of the wild cards to have a better record than the 3rd division winner. With 4 divisions now and only 2 wild cards, it has been extremely common, it was only the fact of a 7-9 team that really got people noticing. Looking back, I could only find a handful of examples where the wild cards teams were not better than 1-2 of the division winners.

Doesn't make sense to me to reward home field advantage based solely on being the best of 25% of the conference.
 
2011-12-30 01:12:38 PM
NFC > NMA

/NMA is not funny
 
2011-12-30 01:14:50 PM
Bad thing about calling for the death of Jerry Jones, is that it puts Jimmy Johnson on notice.
 
2011-12-30 01:17:12 PM

Generation_D: Can't have it both ways. I don't see a big diff 7 wins or 9, if its a division winner it qualifies.


This. Almost every year there's at least one team with a 9-7 record or worse in the playoffs.
Here's 7 in the past dozen years that had 8 or less wins. (new window)
 
2011-12-30 01:45:55 PM
For people who Still don't understand how these work.


You can make a request of that company to animate something for you. You provide a script and tell them what you want animated and they'll do it. This isn't some off the cuff Taiwanese comedy bit. Someone from America sent them sent them a script and said "I want to have this animated". So they animated it.

Why do people continuously assume that they are doing these as real news items?
 
2011-12-30 01:52:18 PM
That was pretty funny and I like Jerry Jones

/Eagles fan
 
2011-12-30 02:11:44 PM

PunchDrunkPanda: I still like the idea Simmons/Cousin Sal proposed, along the lines of 1st round BYE recipients and/or HFA holders get to choose their opponents in the next round. Sort of calling-them-out.


I'll raise that idea - #1 seed should get a Money in the Bank privilege.

"And the Dallas Cowboys have defeated the Detroit Lions, next week they'll -

BAH GAWD KING THAT'S AARON RODGERS' MUSIC!"
 
2011-12-30 02:25:21 PM

Calehedron: JammerJim: Farkn Yaj Yenrac: Jerry Jones can't die, he needs to take over for Al Davis as the crazy old bastard of the NFL that everyone rips on but fans of his team love. Only instead of saggy old skin and track suits, he's covered in too-tight plastic surgery skin and redneck haute couture.

The problem with this plan is that Dallas fans hate Jerry. They tolerated him when Jimmy Johnson was winning Superbowls, but that's all. They will never love Jerry. Ever.

I hate this, but... THIS!

I have been a Cowboys fan my entire life, from Dandy Don on. I had Tony Dorsett and Calvin Hill underwear and socks. I hate Jerry Jones more than the "this" meme. Jimmy Johnson was the only coach to keep him in check and you see where that got him. Be an owner, sit back and hire a good management team. Collect the cash, sit in the box, get plastered. Stay off the field unless its for celebratory or trophy acceptance purposes (playoffs on only).


It's his team ... he can do whatever he wants with it ...
 
2011-12-30 02:34:58 PM

robsul82: PunchDrunkPanda: I still like the idea Simmons/Cousin Sal proposed, along the lines of 1st round BYE recipients and/or HFA holders get to choose their opponents in the next round. Sort of calling-them-out.

I'll raise that idea - #1 seed should get a Money in the Bank privilege.

"And the Dallas Cowboys have defeated the Detroit Lions, next week they'll -

BAH GAWD KING THAT'S AARON RODGERS' MUSIC!"


No OT, just a 25-foot ladder at the 50-yard-line star with the game ball dangling from the jumbotron. Dez Bryant and Megatron start from their own end zones. After 30 seconds, Suh and Ware join.

Ready. Set. Go.
 
2011-12-30 02:37:32 PM

nucal: It's his team ... he can do whatever he wants with it ...


...and I hope he keeps doing it because he's done so well of late.

The day he sits in the owner's box and shuts the hell up is the day that I start worrying about the Cowboys again. Until then we have nothing to worry about.
 
2011-12-30 03:11:52 PM

Lonewolf45100: How come these unfunny, crappy animations keep getting greenlit?


Because you touch yourself at night. Also they are hilarious sometimes. Like now.
 
2011-12-30 03:19:50 PM

JammerJim: Dallas fans hate Jerry


This Texan grew up with my dad's season tickets, binoculars firmly locked on the cheerleaders. I ceased being a fan the day Jerry the Jerk fired Tom Landry. Whenever it transfers ownership, I'll reconsider.
 
2011-12-30 05:02:50 PM
I find no fault with this reporting, whatsoever. :P
 
2011-12-30 05:37:54 PM

betona: JammerJim: Dallas fans hate Jerry

This Texan grew up with my dad's season tickets, binoculars firmly locked on the cheerleaders. I ceased being a fan the day Jerry the Jerk fired Tom Landry. Whenever it transfers ownership, I'll reconsider.


I will always be a fan of the team, but not the owner. What he did was the most classless act I have ever seen. Yes the Cowboys were crappy, maybe it was time for Landry to go - but the way he did it was a senseless act. Landry took the high road and handled it with the utmost class. Jerry Jones will never recover from this one situation. I don't care how many Superbowls they win, he will forever be known as the guy that fired Tom Landry, one of the most innovative, respected & admired coaches in the history of the NFL.

Support the players as they had nothing to do with what what JJ did.
 
2011-12-30 05:43:26 PM

akuma976: Keeping a 40 year old backup quarterback to backup a starting quarterback whos top three recievers are: Jason Witten, Jason Witten, and Jason Witten's back wont get you out of the first round.


The Cowboys have two great wideouts and a top-tier TE, not to mention multiple good RBs, an above-average QB...I don't think their talent is the problem except on defense in the back half.
 
2011-12-30 05:50:24 PM
Guess the quarterbacks by these quick facts:

2011 League Ranks:
• 5th in NFL in TD (29)
• 4th in NFL in CMP% (65.4)
• 8th in NFL in YDS (3,895)
• 4th in NFL in RAT (102.2)

2011 League Ranks:
• 7th in NFL in TD (26)
• 4th in NFL in YDS (4,587)
• 9th in NFL in RAT (90.3)

2011 League Ranks:
• 3rd in NFL in TD (36)
• 5th in NFL in CMP% (63.7)
• 5th in NFL in YDS (4,518)
• 6th in NFL in RAT (96.6)
 
2011-12-30 08:58:02 PM

IAmRight: The Cowboys have two great wideouts and a top-tier TE, not to mention multiple good RBs, an above-average QB...I don't think their talent is the problem except on defense in the back half.


I agree, Dez Bryant and Miles Austin are 2 great WR's and I like Witten so much hes the only current player that I own a jersey of. Romo has proven time and time again he cant handle pressure, and the only thing that has bailed him out have been his recieving corp. I'm just tired of seeing bryant and Austin run open routes, just to just have Romo force a pass to Witten.
 
2011-12-30 09:30:44 PM
I saw "Jerry Jones dies" and clicked on the link quicker'n I usually do when I see "stripper",

Disappointed.
 
2011-12-31 08:24:36 AM
Dallas and Jerry Jones profited from one thing. Location. Location. Location.

If Dallas was an East Coast team, too early for viewers in the West. If Dallas was a West Coast team, too late for the East Coast. If Dallas was a way-up-North team, too cold, lousy field conditions with Texas Stadium's partial roof. (They had to cover the field once in a while due to rain.)

I'm not saying other teams don't have enormous followings in blizzard conditions. But Dallas was perfect for viewership explosion on TV.

Just another reason Jerry Jones should DIAF. The networks needed a ready for TV team in a market that was easy to get in and out of. Plus Dallas was probably a very cheap market to work out of, at least up until recently.
 
2011-12-31 08:29:23 AM
Hai guise, am I too late?

1. Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder and whomever owns the Browns need to be performance audited by the NFL. Meddling, driving up prices and passing them on to the fan and producing subpar products should not be a constant when the draft and schedule drive parity. Jones had back-to-back titles and fired his coach. I'm a Giants fan and still have respect for what Jimmy Johnson built there. Snyder's failures are well-documented here, so no need to repeat them. But when counting wins, why should the Steelers, Ravens and (every five years or so) the Bengals get two easy games each year? Coaches and GMs get fired, players get waived - owners should be under the same scrutiny to perform. My only complaint about Giants ownership is no cheerleaders (except Reby Sky [new window])... and maybe holding onto coaches too long.

2. The NFC East may not have the wins this year, but that's due in part that they have six games a year against teams built to beat them. In the 1980s, when San Francisco clinched their division by late August each year, some of the finest defenses ever assembled did battle in the NFC East. And while the 90s and 00s versions of the NFC East were not as stellar, there were still four Super Bowls (3 DAL, 1 NYG) and six conference championships in that time. The 2011 NFC East champion may not go very far in the playoffs, but knowing that you have either Super Bowl XLII MVP Eli Manning or one of the most complete defensive players in Demarcus Ware going to the playoffs, it can't be all bad.

That said, either the Packers or Saints will shiat the bed before facing one another, San Fran has an NFC East-style defense and Detroit sneezes and scores 17 points. On the AFC side, it will be interesting to see how the Patriots will lose, if the Tebows or Raiders pull off an upset and if Rapelisburger can get healthy. It's a great show every year.
 
2011-12-31 08:34:07 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: Dallas and Jerry Jones profited from one thing. Location. Location. Location.


I would argue that any owner that fires Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson and still turns a profit knows a thing or two about a thing or two. Not sure I ascribe to the location thing. Keeping them in the NFC East instead of swapping them for Carolina or Tampa was a good move too.

Still, it will be interesting to see how Dallas performs after Jones is gone.
 
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