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Reggie Bush thinks he can break Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record of 2,105 yards? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Vodka Zombie
2011-12-30 07:58:25 AM
Sure, he could. I could too. Just get rid of all those people on the field, and I could probably knock that record out in a couple of days.
some.old.lady.
2011-12-30 09:44:56 AM
((snicker))
Hahaa!
tallguywithglasseson
2011-12-30 11:23:55 AM
Well he is on a late-season tear. Four straight 100+ yd games with one 200+ yd game.
He's averaging 6+ yd/attempt over those games. He's also getting more carries (averaging 21/game) over that stretch than from the rest of the season (12/game). If you take his last four, extrapolate over a season, it would come out to 2000 yds in a season...
Of course, you can't actually do that - he'd have to prove he can actually match that performance (and stay healthy) over the course of an entire 16-game season, which people are right to doubt.
Note though, he never said he'd break Dicker's record.
Also I don't think he even said that he could get a 2000 yd season. He just said he studied film of CJ in
his
2000 yd season.
He just said he's capable of winning the rushing title, which is usually around 1500. Which, hey, he probably never will, but who knows.
Wasilla Hillbilly
2011-12-30 12:24:15 PM
If they prioritize and make his numbers more important than the game, it's possible. Sure, it might take 65 carries a game at about 2 yards per, but yeah, I could see it.
kukukupo
2011-12-30 12:27:27 PM
Dude, if Barry couldn't get there, you certainly won't.
Pratty
2011-12-30 12:29:46 PM
Wasilla Hillbilly
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If they prioritize and make his numbers more important than the game, it's possible. Sure, it might take 65 carries a game at about 2 yards per, but yeah, I could see it.
That'd only be 130 yards per game, Bush has been fairly consistantly putting up 100-ish numbers(And had one 200) so he probably wouldn't need that.
However, he has to do that over a full season...which is where it comes into doubt.
/Still, what tall guy said, he said he thinks he can win the rushing title(Usually about 1.5k a pop and next year won't have AP), and that he is
capable
of 2k. Considering how he has done this year, he very well could be capable, if he doesn't wear down to nothing over the course of a full season.
monoski
2011-12-30 12:33:33 PM
How he trained for it
degenerate-afro
2011-12-30 12:35:04 PM
Once it goes to 18 games... maybe.
EyeballKid
2011-12-30 12:40:39 PM
I think the Dolphins could legitimately trade Reggie Bush for a Pizza Hut pizza.
Better be a big pizza, though. And it should include breadsticks.
Ken VeryBigLiar
2011-12-30 12:46:45 PM
EyeballKid
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I think the Dolphins could legitimately trade Reggie Bush for a Pizza Hut pizza.
Better be a big pizza, though. And it should include breadsticks.
Ok, but stuffed crust is totally out of the question.
EyeballKid
2011-12-30 12:49:42 PM
Ken VeryBigLiar
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EyeballKid: I think the Dolphins could legitimately trade Reggie Bush for a Pizza Hut pizza.
Better be a big pizza, though. And it should include breadsticks.
Ok, but stuffed crust is totally out of the question.
What?! I could have gotten 2 stuffed crusts for Daniel Thomas, and he could at least play half a season before breaking down!
Arkanaut
2011-12-30 12:51:01 PM
EyeballKid
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I think the Dolphins could legitimately trade Reggie Bush for a Pizza Hut pizza.
Better be a big pizza, though. And it should include breadsticks.
I picked up Reggie for my fantasy team this year, and he's been solid as a backup running back (on the fantasy team).
That said, Eric Dickerson was a bruising, durable back who could take a pounding and shrug it all off. Reggie Bush is far more delicate. Even if he keeps up a 6 ypc pace, that's 350 rushes over the course of the season. Not many backs can even stay healthy enough to accumulate 350 touches (runs + passes) in a season.
hurdboy
2011-12-30 12:52:26 PM
With any Luck, he won't get an opportunity to do that next year.
EyeballKid
2011-12-30 12:55:35 PM
hurdboy
:
With any Luck, he won't get an opportunity to do that next year.
Wait, Bush will be a Colt next season? How many pizzas are the Dolphins getting for him?
litespeed74
2011-12-30 01:00:36 PM
Does he think the NFL will go to a 30 game season?
merkey88
2011-12-30 01:02:44 PM
Seeing as Reggie Bush is the reason I lost in my fantasy playoffs, go fark a duck.
IAmRight
2011-12-30 01:06:39 PM
I like how everyone's basing Bush's potential production on his sparsely-used Saints days.
Fact is, every time he actually gets carries like a full-time back, he produces. Stop worrying about him possibly getting injured and just run him - you might find that he's able to do what he was expected to do coming out of college.
Warrick Dunn managed to be pretty successful in this league and he was far tinier than Bush. Adrian Peterson got injured a ton in college and then became one of the most solid runners in the NFL.
/it's the system, stupid
//no Saints RB is going to have a chance to be a consistent producer
///it works well enough for them, but not for their RBs
Super Chronic
2011-12-30 01:11:07 PM
Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
Killer Cars
2011-12-30 01:13:06 PM
If I were him, I'd embrace his versatile skill set and shoot for a 3,000 all-purpose yard season instead.
/yeah, still shooting for the moon, but still...
LawrencePerson
2011-12-30 01:16:23 PM
I think the odds are a lot better for Arian Foster to do it first.
After all, after the first game of 2010, he was on track to rack up
3,696 yards rushing
!
Likely? Probably not. But someday someone will break that record, and he has as good a chance as anyone, specially with a full season healthy playing with a healthy Matt Schaub to keep defenses honest for the entire season.
hurdboy
2011-12-30 01:17:54 PM
IAmRight
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Fact is, every time he actually gets carries like a full-time back, he produces.
Something something Seattle in January something something
IAmRight
:
//no Saints RB is going to have a chance to be a consistent producer
Payton said if it wasn't for him, Mark Ingram would be a legitimate ROTY candidate.
But I was not terribly sad to see Reggie go. Even behind a decent line, for every good run he cracked off, there were six more for less than two yards. Deuce McAlister was bursty the same way early in his career, but at 235, he could also push the pile.
degenerate-afro
2011-12-30 01:19:10 PM
Super Chronic
:
Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
Does it help that I thought they were full of shait back then and think they are full of shait now about Luck?
I'm of the camp that believes you can never tell until they are actually in the pros. Football isn't like Basketball where you can tell a superstar from high school and sometimes middle school.
Capt_Fodder
2011-12-30 01:25:30 PM
Super Chronic
:
Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
In all fairness to Bush, he has consistently managed to out-rush Mario Williams over his entire career.
MaxSupernova
2011-12-30 01:31:36 PM
degenerate-afro
:
Super Chronic: Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
Does it help that I thought they were full of shait back then and think they are full of shait now about Luck?
I'm of the camp that believes you can never tell until they are actually in the pros. Football isn't like Basketball where you can tell a superstar from high school and sometimes middle school.
THIS...and equally important you can never tell how that first contract and signing bonus will change a player. There have been many guys that could have been stars but once they got their millions they quit doing the things that got them there. Not that I can really blame them because id probably be a lazy fark if I had multi-millions in the bank.
Hilarity_N_Sues
2011-12-30 01:38:19 PM
jj325
2011-12-30 01:40:44 PM
But can he break OJ Simpson's record of 2003 yards in 14 games?
Super Chronic
2011-12-30 01:42:10 PM
degenerate-afro
:
Super Chronic: Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
Does it help that I thought they were full of shait back then and think they are full of shait now about Luck?
I'm of the camp that believes you can never tell until they are actually in the pros. Football isn't like Basketball where you can tell a superstar from high school and sometimes middle school.
Certainly, any draft pick
might
be a bust. But it's also overstating things to say that everything is a total crapshoot. It's all about probabilities. See
this year's Pro Bowl rosters analyzed by draft round
(new window): 44 first-round picks, 10 second-round picks, seven third-round picks, five fourth-round picks, three sixth-round picks, two seventh-round picks and eight undrafted players. That distribution is pretty typical. Your odds of finding an elite player are much, much better at the top of the draft. So, for the most part, when the scouts say a guy is worth a very, very high draft pick, they aren't wrong. It doesn't mean he will definitely be a great player, but it does mean that there is a much higher probability of it than for other players. And Bush -- like Luck -- was supposed to be, not just a high draft pick, but a once-in-a-decade draft pick.
ongbok
2011-12-30 01:46:51 PM
MaxSupernova
:
degenerate-afro: Super Chronic: Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
Does it help that I thought they were full of shait back then and think they are full of shait now about Luck?
I'm of the camp that believes you can never tell until they are actually in the pros. Football isn't like Basketball where you can tell a superstar from high school and sometimes middle school.
THIS...and equally important you can never tell how that first contract and signing bonus will change a player. There have been many guys that could have been stars but once they got their millions they quit doing the things that got them there. Not that I can really blame them because id probably be a lazy fark if I had multi-millions in the bank.
The problem with Bush was that he wasn't a between the tackles running back in college. He used his speed to get to the edge and then out ran everybody. He tried doing this in the NFL and found out that it didn't work and over the last couple of seasons he started running between the tackles and now he is having some success.
spiderpaz
2011-12-30 01:47:26 PM
As an SC fan, I'd just like to say Reggie Bush can DIAF for what he did. And I like to think that his pathetic career is Karma for the corruption he took part in. Every time he runs the ball, I hope he tares his ACL.
EyeballKid
2011-12-30 01:51:11 PM
Didn't Reggie Bush win the Heisman Trophy, i.e. the Best New Artist Grammy of professional sports? Sure, he had to return it, but the stain of fail never leaves.
lajotu
2011-12-30 01:59:36 PM
Assuming no diminishing returns, since he's averaging five yards a carry, just give him the ball about 26 to 27 times a game.
Boxcutta
2011-12-30 02:03:23 PM
Reggie Bush thinks
There's your problem.
redmid17
2011-12-30 02:06:43 PM
tallguywithglasseson
:
Well he is on a late-season tear. Four straight 100+ yd games with one 200+ yd game.
He's averaging 6+ yd/attempt over those games. He's also getting more carries (averaging 21/game) over that stretch than from the rest of the season (12/game). If you take his last four, extrapolate over a season, it would come out to 2000 yds in a season...
Of course, you can't actually do that - he'd have to prove he can actually match that performance (and stay healthy) over the course of an entire 16-game season, which people are right to doubt.
Note though, he never said he'd break Dicker's record.
Also I don't think he even said that he could get a 2000 yd season. He just said he studied film of CJ in his 2000 yd season.
He just said he's capable of winning the rushing title, which is usually around 1500. Which, hey, he probably never will, but who knows.
The way Bush has been running this season isn't tremendously different than the pre-contract CJ.
merkey88
2011-12-30 02:20:05 PM
spiderpaz
:
As an SC fan, I'd just like to say Reggie Bush can DIAF for what he did. And I like to think that his pathetic career is Karma for the corruption he took part in. Every time he runs the ball, I hope he tares his ACL.
Because USC is scot-free of corruption and cover-ups.
srhp29
2011-12-30 02:22:42 PM
merkey88
:
spiderpaz: As an SC fan, I'd just like to say Reggie Bush can DIAF for what he did. And I like to think that his pathetic career is Karma for the corruption he took part in. Every time he runs the ball, I hope he tares his ACL.
Because USC is scot-free of corruption and cover-ups.
It is pretty funny that he blames Reggie Bush...He should talk to the current head coach.
EqualOpportunityEnslaver
2011-12-30 02:32:16 PM
If guys like Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Thurman Thomas, Emmitt Smith, Marshall Faulk, and Jerome Bettis didn't break Dickerson's mark - what makes a 3rd down back who's finally having the first actually solid season of his career believe he has even the slightest shot at accomplishing this?
/Delusional, self-centered player is delusional.
Super Chronic
2011-12-30 02:33:04 PM
spiderpaz
:
As an SC fan, I'd just like to say Reggie Bush can DIAF for what he did. And I like to think that his pathetic career is Karma for the corruption he took part in. Every time he runs the ball, I hope he tares his ACL.
You realize that he's just the one who got caught, right?
I've said it in other threads. Every team in Division I "revenue sports" is corrupt. Every last one. That team whose coach is widely lauded for his dignity, integrity, "playing the game right" and emphasis on character? Corrupt. That scrappy underdog that we all like to root for, that occasionally knocks off the powerhouses? Corrupt. That cellar-dwellar team that you root for because it's your alma mater or in your hometown? It's not for lack of trying; they're corrupt, too. There are varying degrees -- houses, cash, cars, apartments, no-show jobs, travel -- but none are exempt.
lajotu
2011-12-30 02:43:09 PM
My reading-comprehension-fu is weak. Someone help me here.
Where does Bush mention Dickerson's record? Is it implied by the author's comments in the first paragraph?
Pratty
2011-12-30 02:56:43 PM
Super Chronic
:
Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (
And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying
.)
I didn't think he would be a bust, but I did think that them drafting Mario Williams was the right choice.
/Mostly because I thought they didn't need an RB
Sabyen91
2011-12-30 03:05:43 PM
lajotu
:
My reading-comprehension-fu is weak. Someone help me here.
Where does Bush mention Dickerson's record? Is it implied by the author's comments in the first paragraph?
You aren't the only one that didn't think Bush said anything the writer implied.
/That blog sucks
NaziKamikaze
2011-12-30 03:21:49 PM
Doesn't matter, he's out for the last game anyway.
redmid17
2011-12-30 03:23:31 PM
Pratty
:
Super Chronic: Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
I didn't think he would be a bust, but I did think that them drafting Mario Williams was the right choice.
/Mostly because I thought they didn't need an RB
Same with me. Domanick Davis was pretty decent until he blew out his knee.
MAYORBOB
2011-12-30 03:28:56 PM
I love how the sportwhatever dude who wrote this probing piece goes to some pains to mention that Reggie just barely broke 1,000 yards over 15 games and
WTF DOOD, FTW ARE YOU ON
for thinking you'll gain over 1,000 yards in one game. Then look over at the little Sports Update box to the right of the story:
"Reggie Bush (knee) has been ruled out for the Week 17 game against the New York Jets."
Pratty
2011-12-30 03:29:28 PM
redmid17
:
Pratty: Super Chronic: Remember when Bush was a can't-miss superstar prospect? I remember reading a column along the lines of "I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will fail -- in fact I have yet to meet an expert who thinks Bush will be anything less than one of the most transcendent superstars in the history of the game." The Texans were supposedly stupid for drafting Mario Williams. Back then, we all thought Bush was capable of 1,500 rushing yards and another 1,000 receiving yards in a season. (And spare me the "I knew all along that he wasn't special" reply -- you're lying.)
I didn't think he would be a bust, but I did think that them drafting Mario Williams was the right choice.
/Mostly because I thought they didn't need an RB
Same with me. Domanick Davis was pretty decent until he blew out his knee.
4.1 YPC and was about to go over 1k yards in 12 games before his knee asploded. Quite nice.
Why Would I Read the Article
2011-12-30 03:50:45 PM
spiderpaz
:
As an SC fan, I'd just like to say Reggie Bush can DIAF for what he did. And I like to think that his pathetic career is Karma for the corruption he took part in. Every time he runs the ball, I hope he tares his ACL.
SC has been one of the dirtiest programs in college football for decades. Why single out Bush? If you root for SC, know that you are willingly rooting for cheaters.
I'm not judging or anything, because we all know that many, many programs cheat, but it's not like USC was clean other than Bush; they pay everybody.
mrtoadswildride
2011-12-30 03:57:34 PM
IAmRight
:
I like how everyone's basing Bush's potential production on his sparsely-used Saints days.
Fact is, every time he actually gets carries like a full-time back, he produces. Stop worrying about him possibly getting injured and just run him - you might find that he's able to do what he was expected to do coming out of college.
Warrick Dunn managed to be pretty successful in this league and he was far tinier than Bush. Adrian Peterson got injured a ton in college and then became one of the most solid runners in the NFL.
/it's the system, stupid
//no Saints RB is going to have a chance to be a consistent producer
///it works well enough for them, but not for their RBs
For a 2000 yard total...with and 16 game season you need to average 125 rushing yards a game. The best backs in the league are averaging 20-22 touches per game and 4.5 yards per carry...Reggie would need more touches and better yards per carry than all of the best backs in the league...just to get to 2,000 yards.
Also...it's a passing league, and teams run the ball maybe 25 times total. The idea that bush is going to average 6-7 yards a carry for 20-25 touches games...for 16 weeks....seems doubtful.
spiderpaz
2011-12-30 04:05:11 PM
Why Would I Read the Article
:
If you root for
SC
Any Division 1 Sports Team, know that you are willingly rooting for cheaters.
FTFY
VvonderJesus
2011-12-30 04:35:05 PM
spiderpaz
:
Why Would I Read the Article: If you root for
SC
Any
Division 1
Sports Team, know that you are willingly rooting for cheaters.
FTFY
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.
FlightFollower
2011-12-30 04:36:25 PM
Other than in the first few weeks of the year, he has been more than capable of hitting 1500 yds this year. Miami, like many other teams had handcuffed by the lockout, new OC, new system new RB it takes time to get these things together. If he stays on his current pace next year Id be surprised if he DIDNT get to 1500+yds.
Dude has a chip on his shoulder from all the negative things people have said, " hes soft injury prone not a between the tackles guy." I have watched every snap of Miami football this year and he has been a tough running RB who doesnt shy away from lowering his shoulder and laying a hit to a LB or safety.
IAmRight
2011-12-30 04:50:06 PM
mrtoadswildride
:
For a 2000 yard total...with and 16 game season you need to average 125 rushing yards a game. The best backs in the league are averaging 20-22 touches per game and 4.5 yards per carry...Reggie would need more touches and better yards per carry than all of the best backs in the league...just to get to 2,000 yards.
He said lead the league in rushing, not lead the league all-time in rushing. Just because subby is stupid doesn't mean everyone in the thread has to be.
Again, go look up his games and you'll see that if he gets 20 carries, he's getting at least 100 yards. Yes, passing numbers are up. That doesn't mean that you have to do nothing with your RBs except use them as decoys/spot rushers.
ongbok
:
The problem with Bush was that he wasn't a between the tackles running back in college. He used his speed to get to the edge and then out ran everybody. He tried doing this in the NFL and found out that it didn't work and over the last couple of seasons he started running between the tackles and now he is having some success.
He also had a position and plays called that pretty much exclusively asked him to go outside (the Saints had McAllister for up the middle rushes). It's not like anyone comes into the NFL having never run between the tackles. You give guys five carries a game, it's hard to get into the flow of the game. It's like saying a pinch hitter sucks because he doesn't hit for a great average - well of course he doesn't, he rarely sees game pitching!
hurdboy
:
Payton said if it wasn't for him, Mark Ingram would be a legitimate ROTY candidate.
Yes, so it's nice to know that the coach himself agrees with me - they've had fantastic RB talent in New Orleans but just consistently don't give them anything. It works out just fine for New Orleans but it sucks if you're a RB there.
/Ingram is about to put up the same numbers rushing that Bush did in his rookie season - he'll finish with about 700 fewer receiving yards, though
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