FTA: The law bans teaching materials that reflect poorly on...particular religions.

That's a toughie. Won't merely stating the facts concerning them also reflect poorly?

FTFA: In 1993, the church made a decision to be a "reconciling congregation" which welcomes gay, lesbian and trasngender members.

It's refreshing to see a church that's willing to accept anybody's money.

/even three dollar bills

Wrong thread. I blame tonight's booze.

In a story that could have been an X-File...


/Not sayin' it's aliens

I thought it was an interesting article on the church. But everyone here is reacting like the church is demanding that the federal government send in the armed helicopters to send the perpetrators to hell or to amend the constitution to prevent sign tipping (say - like an evangelical organization would do). They aren't. They just observed that not everyone is tolerant and most likely just put back up the display and went back to their business.

/nice troll subby

Find the christian bigot who did did this and nail their ass to the wall! (Figuratively, of course.)

feckingmorons: Someone pushed over the cutouts. It must be hardened criminals. Call the SWAT team.

Or maybe it was the wind, call the NWS.

Why not? christians would be up in arms if someone knocked over a cross or crucifix?

And subby answers with a trolltastic headline! It's a hat trick!

bravian: I thought it was an interesting article on the church. But everyone here is reacting like the church is demanding that the federal government send in the armed helicopters to send the perpetrators to hell or to amend the constitution to prevent sign tipping (say - like an evangelical organization would do). They aren't. They just observed that not everyone is tolerant and most likely just put back up the display and went back to their business.

Did you look at even one comment?

Church officials came in before the Christmas morning service to find that someone had pushed over the two gay couples and left the heterosexual couple standing.

Awww... that's so cute. The rednecks tried to make a think.

BigNumber12: feckingmorons: Someone pushed over the cutouts. It must be hardened criminals. Call the SWAT team.


Even worse, it was a HATE CRIME. Execution is too good for those monsters / kids.

Wow, a church gets to be a victim of a hate crime?

Those Methodists and their tolerance. Can't have none of that here.

I keep hearing that God hates gays... maybe someone should be questioning Him?

Since He is all-present and all-knowing, so I know damned good and well that He was in the neighborhood when it happened and even if He didn't actually do it, He has names.

/book'em, Danno

I think every nativity scene is pretty gay.

ElLoco: I keep hearing that God hates gays... maybe someone should be questioning Him?

Since He is all-present and all-knowing, so I know damned good and well that He was in the neighborhood when it happened and even if He didn't actually do it, He has names.


God's a Republican.

My god is that comment section filled with derp.

davidphogan: Wow, a church gets to be a victim of a hate crime?

This one does because it doesn't preach enough hate. The other religious people have turned on them ... with hate of course.

Isn't that special?

Gyrfalcon: Maybe the "normal" cutouts were better anchored or screened from the wind by something else?

The two that fell over swung both ways. Far less stable.

here to help: ElLoco: I keep hearing that God hates gays... maybe someone should be questioning Him?

Since He is all-present and all-knowing, so I know damned good and well that He was in the neighborhood when it happened and even if He didn't actually do it, He has names.


God's a Republican.

Yeah, but Jesus is a socialist

They pushed the cut-out over themselves...it is a troll trick...see how well it is working??

rfeick0: Yeah, but Jesus is a socialist

That's why he had to suffer.

davidphogan: BigNumber12: feckingmorons: Someone pushed over the cutouts. It must be hardened criminals. Call the SWAT team.


Even worse, it was a HATE CRIME. Execution is too good for those monsters / kids.

Wow, a church gets to be a victim of a hate crime?

When it's one of the churches preaching tolerance and actually questioning whether gays might actually be kind of okay people, yeah, they can be.

How can you tell male and female based solely on silhouette? Sexisim!

(also notice that they only defaced the man/man couple, not the woman/woman one.)

here to help: Church officials came in before the Christmas morning service to find that someone had pushed over the two gay couples and left the heterosexual couple standing.

Awww... that's so cute. The rednecks tried to make a think.

Claremont is hardly redneck country. The area kinda epitomizes the leftist college town, although lots of wealthy yuppies like to visit to shop at the small stores there. It makes them feel better about themselves when they patronize the little boutique shops that blanket the downtown.

Probably a couple of drunken college students.

I know it must be upsetting.

I'm going to go online and order them a nice fruitcake.

Outlaw Thirds: How can you tell male and female based solely on silhouette? Sexisim!

(also notice that they only defaced the man/man couple, not the woman/woman one.)

I'm sorry, the picture in the article's video (two standing) did not match the words (one standing).

Soon Right Away: I think every nativity scene is pretty gay.
That goes to the root of various groups' philosophical justifications for declaring gayness wrong-most also condemn heterosexual sex (unless they give written permission for it).

burghboy: FTFA: In 1993, the church made a decision to be a "reconciling congregation" which welcomes gay, lesbian and trasngender members.

It's refreshing to see a church that's willing to accept anybody's money.



+1. Would lol again.

It wasn't vandals, it was kids. I think about all those years that I rearranged people's Christmas lights to say "EAT ME." Hell, just recently I set up their wire frame lighted deer so there was a daisy chain of ass sniffing.

I think it is a douchey thing to do, but isn't the prosecution of hate crimes awfully close to policing thoughts? This could have just been some random-arse teenagers breaking shiat, for all we know at this point.

bravian: I thought it was an interesting article on the church. But everyone here is reacting like the church is demanding that the federal government send in the armed helicopters to send the perpetrators to hell or to amend the constitution to prevent sign tipping (say - like an evangelical organization would do). They aren't. They just observed that not everyone is tolerant and most likely just put back up the display and went back to their business.

/nice troll subby

They called the police. Because their cut outs were tipped over.

CarriePrejean: I think it is a douchey thing to do, but isn't the prosecution of hate crimes awfully close to policing thoughts? This could have just been some random-arse teenagers breaking shiat, for all we know at this point.

Yes.
Hate crime = thought crime.

An unusual nativity display at a Claremont church that portrayed gay couples was vandalized over the weekend in an incident authorities are investigating as a hate crime.

Never seen an act of really simplistic vandalism covered under hate crime legislation. Is this being pursued with possible additional consequences resultant from the target of the act or is this simply such a misused phrase anymore what we mean is a crime which involves hating a particular group? I also do not see what the damages are; parts of the display simply appear tipped over but not broken or otherwise defaced.

There are church's in California!? I feel so mislead by the media and popular culture.

Gyrfalcon: CarriePrejean: I think it is a douchey thing to do, but isn't the prosecution of hate crimes awfully close to policing thoughts? This could have just been some random-arse teenagers breaking shiat, for all we know at this point.

I am a vocal opponent of hate crimes for just this reason. Prosecute the dorks for trespass, destruction of property and even burglary if you like. Not for what may or may not have been inside their pointy heads.

Thread over. CarriePrejean + ignacio + Gyrfalcon + Begoggle = summary of why the fark this is stupid. The church in question is as much to blame as the cops who arrived and wrote it up as a hate crime.

Under such silliness, the church should be equally culpable for a hate crime by defacing Christmas tradition using that line of thinking.

Teen Wolf Blitzer: There are church's in California!? I feel so mislead by the media and popular culture.



How quickly you forget.

AaronB1138: Thread over. CarriePrejean + ignacio + Gyrfalcon + Begoggle = summary of why the fark this is stupid. The church in question is as much to blame as the cops who arrived and wrote it up as a hate crime.

Under such silliness, the church should be equally culpable for a hate crime by defacing Christmas tradition using that line of thinking.

Well, we do have a long legal tradition of considering motive, as evident in the difference between 1st-degree homicide and 2nd-degree homicide, but my gut reaction is that this is different. I just can't think of any good reason why.

Herb Utsmelz: Because turtles.

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Careful. There are probably gays in this thread and they're gonna wanna marry those turtles.

burghboy: FTFA: In 1993, the church made a decision to be a "reconciling congregation" which welcomes gay, lesbian and trasngender members.

It's refreshing to see a church that's willing to accept anybody's money.

/even three dollar bills

Trust me, there is absolutely nothing you could do to get the United Methodist Church to stop taking your money. Or asking for it constantly.

anfrind: Teen Wolf Blitzer: There are church's in California!? I feel so mislead by the media and popular culture.

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How quickly you forget.