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(Guardian)   Bolivia is in two minds about what to do with their huge reserves of lithium   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 42
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2011-12-29 10:01:35 PM
Lithium is okay for energy storage, but if you want to produce green energy, go with thorium.

/LFTR for the win.
 
2011-12-29 10:04:46 PM
Quasi birch reduction of pseudoephedrine also possible? Big business these days
 
2011-12-29 10:07:51 PM
That's a good headline.
 
2011-12-29 10:08:29 PM
I see what you did there, Subby. So do I.
 
2011-12-29 10:08:30 PM
This headline f*cking sucks.
 
2011-12-29 10:15:36 PM
Are Bolivian lithium batteries bipolar?
 
2011-12-29 10:23:13 PM
That is one ill headline. Well played, subby.
 
2011-12-29 10:26:37 PM
I was feeling really happy about the HL, then I remembered how few get greened...
 
2011-12-29 10:27:50 PM
but do they light their candles in a daze because they've found God, submitter?
 
2011-12-29 10:30:12 PM
Some people may not know this, but if you put a chunk of lithium onto a surface of water, it will fizzle as it produces hydrogen and have even burst into flames.
 
2011-12-29 11:01:42 PM
oldebayer: Some people may not know this, but if you put a chunk of lithium onto a surface of water, it will fizzle as it produces hydrogen and have even burst into flames.

A few months ago there was a video link about that showing the metals that do that. Really cool.
 
2011-12-30 12:03:43 AM
That's crazy!
 
2011-12-30 01:30:20 AM
I don't care. I'm so horny. But that's ok. My will is good.
 
2011-12-30 01:50:04 AM
Bolivia should stick with their best export. Cocaine.
 
2011-12-30 02:29:29 AM
Snarfangel: Lithium is okay for energy storage, but if you want to produce green energy, go with thorium.

Algae.

/It's green.
//No, literally, it's green.
///Algae biofuel is pretty environmentally benign, too.
 
2011-12-30 02:40:19 AM
Lithium is seen as the green energy fuel of the future

Lithium is not a fuel you farking moran.
Lithium ion batteries are an energy storage device.

STORAGE!
You have to get the energy from somewhere else.

From a FUEL source. solar, wind, nuclear, fossil, hydro, SOMETHING.

/god I hate retards who think hydrogen or lithium will save us.
 
2011-12-30 02:42:13 AM
"The plan, as an industry, is to supply lithium worldwide for hundreds or maybe thousands of years"

bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha
wait, he is serious
let me laugh harder

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah
 
2011-12-30 02:47:10 AM
Brazil may have to seek new sources of energy to fuel rising car ownership among its burgeoning middle class.

It is a market opportunity that could make Bolivia a green energy superpower


um
no, bolivia, you wont become a green energy super power
sigh
 
2011-12-30 04:29:50 AM
For those keeping score Bolivia has:

-Commie leader idealogically close to Iran and Venezuela
-is the "Saudi Arabia" of Lithium
-Some oil
-Cocaine
-Brown people

The only thing missing is Islam, but guess where your next war is America!
 
2011-12-30 04:46:18 AM
A denial, an albino, a mosquito, my libido
 
2011-12-30 05:36:00 AM
namatad: Lithium is seen as the green energy fuel of the future

Lithium is not a fuel you farking moran.
Lithium ion batteries are an energy storage device.

STORAGE!
You have to get the energy from somewhere else.

From a FUEL source. solar, wind, nuclear, fossil, hydro, SOMETHING.

/god I hate retards who think hydrogen or lithium will save us.


It's amazing. You can lift your head up and look at a hydrogen fuel reaction in action every goddamn day, but you apparently think it's a battery.
I am truly impressed by your level of wharrgarbl, it is much greater than I could ever hope to achieve. *raises coffee in salute*
 
2011-12-30 05:50:37 AM
starsrift: It's amazing. You can lift your head up and look at a hydrogen fuel reaction in action every goddamn day, but you apparently think it's a battery.
I am truly impressed by your level of wharrgarbl, it is much greater than I could ever hope to achieve. *raises coffee in salute*


hahahahaha that is almost funny
next you will tell me you believe the people who say that we are close to success to sustained fusion.
only 20-30 more years!!!!

7/10
-3 for spelling wharrgarbl correctly
 
2011-12-30 06:15:32 AM
namatad: starsrift: It's amazing. You can lift your head up and look at a hydrogen fuel reaction in action every goddamn day, but you apparently think it's a battery.
I am truly impressed by your level of wharrgarbl, it is much greater than I could ever hope to achieve. *raises coffee in salute*

hahahahaha that is almost funny
next you will tell me you believe the people who say that we are close to success to sustained fusion.
only 20-30 more years!!!!

7/10
-3 for spelling wharrgarbl correctly


Who said anything about fusion?

forum.nasaspaceflight.com
/ image is hot like a MECO
 
2011-12-30 06:17:02 AM
starsrift: / image is hot like a MECO

derp derp derp
DERP!!!
 
2011-12-30 06:36:22 AM
namatad: starsrift: / image is hot like a MECO

derp derp derp
DERP!!!


I'm not sure what this means. Does this mean that you disbelieve that the RS-68 engine has not and is not currently being used by NASA to power rocket vehicles? Does it mean that you disbelieve that the RS-68 is an engine that uses hydrogen fuel?
Or is this just you intransigently unable to admit being wrong and failing to come up with a coherent argument?
 
2011-12-30 07:08:33 AM
How dare they wish to do the work and reap the rewards themselves! And not do it so fast as to please multinational companies! The horror!
 
2011-12-30 07:16:38 AM
Subtard: Bolivia is in of two minds about what to do with their huge reserves of lithium

Of. It's, "of two minds," not "in two minds," you idiot.
 
2011-12-30 07:47:00 AM
starsrift: namatad: starsrift: / image is hot like a MECO

derp derp derp
DERP!!!

I'm not sure what this means. Does this mean that you disbelieve that the RS-68 engine has not and is not currently being used by NASA to power rocket vehicles? Does it mean that you disbelieve that the RS-68 is an engine that uses hydrogen fuel?
Or is this just you intransigently unable to admit being wrong and failing to come up with a coherent argument?


The H2 it burns is not found naturally on Earth. You have to liberate it from hydrocarbons (primary fuel source) or water (which requires a seperate fuel source.

Sans fusion, and even in a rocket, hydrogen is an energy storage mechanism, not a primary source.
 
2011-12-30 08:00:52 AM
FireNexus: The H2 it burns is not found naturally on Earth. You have to liberate it from hydrocarbons (primary fuel source) or water (which requires a seperate fuel source.

Sans fusion, and even in a rocket, hydrogen is an energy storage mechanism, not a primary source.


Hydrogen can be burned with oxygen to free energy. That is the definition of fuel in an oxygen-burning context. It is no more a "battery" or "energy storage mechanism" than oil - the difference is, of course, is that it takes more energy to get liquid H2 than we can recover from it. With research, perhaps as much research as has been put into oil, that could change. Reducing that fact to calling hydrogen an "energy storage mechanism" is a gross simplification that overlooks the fact that it is no less a mechanism for storing energy than any other oxygen-requiring fuel.
 
2011-12-30 08:17:34 AM
Without all that lithium, will Bolivia fade into Bolivian?

/Mike Tyson FTW!
 
2011-12-30 08:28:45 AM
In Bolivia, there is no manic Monday.
 
2011-12-30 09:00:25 AM
media.vfs.com
 
2011-12-30 09:20:37 AM
Yay, another country to invade for the next resource war!
 
2011-12-30 11:04:04 AM
Ok, new saying: "You couldn't fix THAT kind of crazy with all of the lithium in Bolivia!"
 
2011-12-30 02:01:59 PM
The word Bolivia gets me all ragey because it reminds me of the denouement of the last Bond movie. "Our intricate multilayered global conspiracy involving people who infiltrated multiple governmental spy agencies at the highest levels had the sole purpose of taking over a small south american country so that we could charge their people somewhat more for water BWWAAHHAHAHHAHAHA!!!"

They might as well have gone with ONE MILLION DOLLARS and a pinky to the lip.
 
2011-12-30 04:17:40 PM
starsrift: FireNexus: The H2 it burns is not found naturally on Earth. You have to liberate it from hydrocarbons (primary fuel source) or water (which requires a seperate fuel source.

Sans fusion, and even in a rocket, hydrogen is an energy storage mechanism, not a primary source.

Hydrogen can be burned with oxygen to free energy. That is the definition of fuel in an oxygen-burning context. It is no more a "battery" or "energy storage mechanism" than oil - the difference is, of course, is that it takes more energy to get liquid H2 than we can recover from it. With research, perhaps as much research as has been put into oil, that could change. Reducing that fact to calling hydrogen an "energy storage mechanism" is a gross simplification that overlooks the fact that it is no less a mechanism for storing energy than any other oxygen-requiring fuel.


What exactly do you think fuel is if not a medium for energy storage? Is it a simplification, certainly, but this IS Fark after all.
 
2011-12-30 06:38:54 PM
Representative of the unwashed masses: For those keeping score Bolivia has:

-Commie leader idealogically close to Iran and Venezuela
-is the "Saudi Arabia" of Lithium
-Some oil
-Cocaine
-Brown people

The only thing missing is Islam, but guess where your next war is America!


Nah, we did not go to war with Venezuela and we get more oil from there than the Middle East . They are closer to the US and have about the same level of military incompetence. My guess is that Bolivia's commies will screw this up they way Chavez has the oil industry in Venezuela.

Besides we need to forget the electric battery car nonsense and go with hydrogen fuel cells.
 
2011-12-30 07:57:01 PM
Goodfella: A denial, an albino, a mosquito, my libido

Mulato
 
2011-12-30 10:30:52 PM
starsrift: namatad: Lithium is seen as the green energy fuel of the future

Lithium is not a fuel you farking moran.
Lithium ion batteries are an energy storage device.

STORAGE!
You have to get the energy from somewhere else.

From a FUEL source. solar, wind, nuclear, fossil, hydro, SOMETHING.

/god I hate retards who think hydrogen or lithium will save us.

It's amazing. You can lift your head up and look at a hydrogen fuel reaction in action every goddamn day, but you apparently think it's a battery.
I am truly impressed by your level of wharrgarbl, it is much greater than I could ever hope to achieve. *raises coffee in salute*


Nope. You're there.

Fuel cell = chemical reaction = chemical bond energy released.
Sun = fusion reaction = matter converted into energy (mass deficiency, E=mc2).
 
2011-12-31 02:39:15 AM
Coming soon to Bolivia... Al Queda
 
2011-12-31 11:54:04 AM
awakeinsd: Coming soon to Bolivia... Al Queda


Al Qaeda Invades South America (new window)
 
2011-12-31 01:39:10 PM
sawzallz: Goodfella: A denial, an albino, a mosquito, my libido

Mulato



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