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A Fark Handle
2011-12-29 12:56:36 PM
starting 2017? the sec will have won something like a dozen straight national title by then. but i guess it makes sense that the junior divisions would schedule each other to determine who should lose to the sec champions in the national title game.
Why Would I Read the Article
2011-12-29 01:02:52 PM
Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans. Bada bing bada boom, you've got yourself a 12-1 record and a date in the championship game.
Scheduling difficult opponents might make for a fun game in September or October, but it's surely not the way to reserve a spot in the title game.
AdamK
2011-12-29 01:11:47 PM
playoff
The_Six_Fingered_Man
2011-12-29 01:16:15 PM
Why Would I Read the Article
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Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans. Bada bing bada boom, you've got yourself a 12-1 record and a date in the championship game.
Scheduling difficult opponents might make for a fun game in September or October, but it's surely not the way to reserve a spot in the title game.
Except you can't count more than one win against an FCS opponent for your win totals for bowl eligibility.
Serious Black
2011-12-29 01:16:23 PM
If I didn't know any better, I'd say Scott and Delany have seen the writing on the wall and know that a playoff is coming to FBS. A more difficult schedule is counterproductive when you're fighting for one of two slots, but if there are four, or eight, or even sixteen slots? Schedule difficulty becomes a lot more important in that case.
carnifex2005
2011-12-29 01:28:33 PM
Seems that Scott and Delany are playing chess, while everyone else is playing checkers. This is a brilliant move. The two leagues and Notre Dame now have the hammer in where the fate of the BCS goes from here.
Ken VeryBigLiar
2011-12-29 01:40:55 PM
So three good games, three decent games and the rest are abominations in the eyes of the lord.
soakitincider
2011-12-29 02:14:48 PM
texas state and UT-San Antonio are moving to the WAC next year; it will be UTSA's second season of play ever.
steamingpile
2011-12-29 02:19:11 PM
AdamK
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playoff
Then people would be pissy about how many playoffs wins the sec has, people will always biatch.
steamingpile
2011-12-29 02:21:47 PM
Serious Black
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If I didn't know any better, I'd say Scott and Delany have seen the writing on the wall and know that a playoff is coming to FBS. A more difficult schedule is counterproductive when you're fighting for one of two slots, but if there are four, or eight, or even sixteen slots? Schedule difficulty becomes a lot more important in that case.
You mean a playoff like the sec and acc called for years ago?
Imagine that, once the system is no longer helpful to them they start biatching.
balfourk
2011-12-29 02:23:07 PM
Why Would I Read the Article
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Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans. Bada bing bada boom, you've got yourself a 12-1 record and a date in the championship game.
Scheduling difficult opponents might make for a fun game in September or October, but it's surely not the way to reserve a spot in the title game.
While I generally agree with you I have to point out that LSU's schedule this year was nothing like that. Playing Oregon and West Virginia away from home on top of the entire SEC schedule was darn difficult and they won them all. All major universities schedule games years in advance and sometimes when you have a home and home set up 8 years out the product doesn't always match up to the hype when originally scheduled. Alabama played Penn St in a home and home and that wound up not having the luster that the Bama boys thought it would come game time. South Carolina plays Clemson every year, Florida plays Florida St and Miami almost every year and LSU has a home and home with TCU set up in the next few years. Yes, there are examples of schools who consistantly play smaller colleges to give themselves and automatic win, but not every school does it. Those that do, don't do it every year and scheduling is done so far out that some things cannot changed. The SEC gets crap every year for scheduling panzies, but so does every major conference team all over the country.
SevenizGud
2011-12-29 02:23:45 PM
Bama should have to win 2 of 3.
Pratty
2011-12-29 02:25:00 PM
steamingpile
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AdamK: playoff
Then people would be pissy about how many playoffs wins the sec has, people will always biatch.
I wouldn't!
/Then again, I don't biatch about Tom Brady, so I'm probably just too chillaxe.
A Fark Handle
2011-12-29 02:38:26 PM
SevenizGud
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Bama should have to win 2 of 3.
or they could have just let oklahoma state have a shot at lsu.
rcf1105
2011-12-29 02:48:21 PM
SEC teams have gotten to play in so many championships recently because they've been either smart or lucky enough to have their losses occur before everyone else's (see Florida 2006, LSU 2007, Alabama this year). Once they start having to play into the national championship, I suspect you'll see less of them -- still a fair amount, but less -- and nobody will argue with the championships, because they'll be earned on the field.
ongbok
2011-12-29 02:59:05 PM
I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
YonderScott
2011-12-29 03:07:02 PM
A Fark Handle
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SevenizGud: Bama should have to win 2 of 3.
or they could have just let oklahoma state have a shot at lsu.
Why, so they can get the same treatment Oregon got by LSU earlier this year? OK St couldn't beat Iowa St, sorry that is not shot worthy. I mean all you SEC haters want a chance and when you get it, you fail. So why not let the best 2 teams in the country, which happen to be SEC schools play for the title instead of a repeat of Alabama beating a big 12 school, or Florida or LSU killing an inferior Ohio St team. Or Auburn beating a gimmicky offense that works out west where the teams are weak. This year the best conference with the best 2 teams in the country will face off, that way your Ohio States and Oregon's of the world don't have to get embarrassed. And the rest of us without a bias against a certain conference get to watch THE BEST 2 TEAMS play for the title.
Tourney3p0
2011-12-29 03:18:31 PM
Why Would I Read the Article
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Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans.
The Pac12 champion's OOC schedule was LSU, Nevada, and Missouri State, of which they lost one the only one that mattered.
The SEC's was similar, but they won their game. Throw West Virginia on the pile as well.
The Big 10 champion's OOC was UNLV, Oregon State, Northern Illinois and South Dakota.
Other notable Pac12 OOC games included San Jose State (twice), Duke, Eastern Washington, Hawaii, Fresno State, Presbyterian, Sacramento State, BYU, Idaho State, SDSU, Minnesota, UC Davis, Montana State, Pittsburgh, Colorado State, Northern Arizona, and Louisiana Lafayette.
There are plenty of reasons to hate the SEC without resorting to breaking all the windows in your glass house.
12349876
2011-12-29 03:29:21 PM
Why Would I Read the Article
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Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans. Bada bing bada boom, you've got yourself a 12-1 record and a date in the championship game.
Let's REALLY schedule compare.
They ALL play cupcakes. Get your head out of your ass and into the team schedules.
CoonAce
2011-12-29 03:34:30 PM
The reason, as subby puts it, "that won't change which SEC teams play in the National Championship game" is because the SEC has the very best teams in college football. No teams from any other conference are better than the cream of the SEC. Not even close.
A Fark Handle
2011-12-29 03:35:21 PM
YonderScott
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A Fark Handle: SevenizGud: Bama should have to win 2 of 3.
or they could have just let oklahoma state have a shot at lsu.
Why, so they can get the same treatment Oregon got by LSU earlier this year? OK St couldn't beat Iowa St, sorry that is not shot worthy. I mean all you SEC haters want a chance and when you get it, you fail. So why not let the best 2 teams in the country, which happen to be SEC schools play for the title instead of a repeat of Alabama beating a big 12 school, or Florida or LSU killing an inferior Ohio St team. Or Auburn beating a gimmicky offense that works out west where the teams are weak. This year the best conference with the best 2 teams in the country will face off, that way your Ohio States and Oregon's of the world don't have to get embarrassed. And the rest of us without a bias against a certain conference get to watch THE BEST 2 TEAMS play for the title.
yes, my long stand hatred of everything sec is the reason, clearly...i just HATE the sec.
not that i might think that it's unfair to lsu. not that i might think it proves more if lsu were to stomp okie state. and good to know that losing to a 6-6 iowa st is not shot worthy, but losing to an 8-5 arkansas team and a 7-5 kentucky team was in 2007 for lsu.
oh_please
2011-12-29 03:59:57 PM
People have brought this up in threads long ago, but I can't find a better solution than this:
4 "super conferences" of 16 -20 teams each. Let's just say SEC, Pac-16, Big-16, and a combo of Big East and ACC, loosely based geographically.
Regular season schedules are played within the conference on a purely rotating basis. No scheduling OOC cupcakes, your schedule is predetermined.
4 conference champs, and 4 at-larges, seeded by what the BCS rankings are today.
Fight it out!
I can understand the Bama hate, they already lost to LSU. But 3 other teams had a clear path to the NC after Bama lost, and they ALL blew it.
The_Six_Fingered_Man
2011-12-29 04:02:06 PM
ongbok
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I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
#oversigning
rorypk
2011-12-29 04:13:08 PM
ongbok
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I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
steamingpile
2011-12-29 04:27:06 PM
12349876
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Why Would I Read the Article: Not sure why they're doing this. The SEC has shown that the best way to get to the national title game is if every member of the conference schedules 8 FCS home games per year, then plays a conference schedule consisting of maybe 1 or 2 tough games and several tomato cans. Bada bing bada boom, you've got yourself a 12-1 record and a date in the championship game.
Let's REALLY schedule compare.
They ALL play cupcakes. Get your head out of your ass and into the team schedules.
Well since their schedules consist of nothing but cupcakes I don't see what your complaing about, you can't have a schedule full of teams the sec/big 10/12/pac 10 would get mocked at for playing yet have your entities schedule full of them but get pissy because you computer ranking and SOS is in the shiatter.
bronyaur1
2011-12-29 04:35:43 PM
.... just another way to get around the antitrust problems of the BCS agreements.
velvet_fog
2011-12-29 04:43:45 PM
As a Nebraska fan, not always sure I'm on board with Jim Delaney's vision of what Big Ten football should be. I think Wetzel wrote a few weeks ago that by going to 12 teams and staging a championship game, the Big Ten was basically waving a white flag to the national championship game. Delaney is one of the biggest bowl proponents out there. If he could, he'd scrap the BCS in a heartbeat and go back to the old system. By scheduling more Pac 12-Big Ten games, Delaney has to know it will be just one more opportunity for Big Ten national title contenders to lose.
I can't say I agree with Delaney's wish to set college football back 15 years. I think a playoff would greatly improve the sport and make the regular season even more compelling. It's great Nebraska has a home for the next several decades, but Husker fans expect national titles, not just Rose Bowl wins. I feel like adding a conference title game, going to 9 conference games and now this Pac-12 arrangement is just going to create more obstacles for Big Ten national title contenders by creating more stumbling blocks in the way of going undefeated.
This just seems like Delaney's last stand against a playoff, an effort to isolate the Big Ten and go back to 1997 when the Rose Bowl was still the sport's premiere event.
Kuta
2011-12-29 04:47:05 PM
The reason there are so few Pac-12 cupcake games is that they man up and play a 9 game conference schedule.
All other conferences are pansies by comparison.
Tourney3p0
2011-12-29 04:52:32 PM
Kuta
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The reason there are so few Pac-12 cupcake games
Not sure if serious
bel4sucks
2011-12-29 04:52:51 PM
rorypk
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No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
LOL bullshiat. Especially on this site. You hear ten times the biatching about supposed SEC homerism than you actually hear someone pulling for the whole conference. If you'd quit crying about it, you'd never hear about it.
BilltheThrill
2011-12-29 04:56:25 PM
velvet_fog
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It's great Nebraska has a home for the next several decades, but Husker fans expect national titles, not just Rose Bowl wins.
I feel like adding a conference title game, going to 9 conference games and now this Pac-12 arrangement is just going to create more obstacles for Big Ten national title contenders by creating more stumbling blocks in the way of going undefeated.
Yeah, who's living in 1997 here...
JSam21
2011-12-29 05:11:50 PM
The SEC is a very, very top heavy conference right now. The additions of Missouri and Texas A&M will help that along with a resurgence of eastern teams like Florida and Georgia. My Tigers open up SEC play with the Bulldogs and Bama travels to Mizzou.
/MIZ
JSam21
2011-12-29 05:15:43 PM
rorypk
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ongbok: I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
So much of this right here. The douchy SEC chest beating is what turns people off to SEC football.
ongbok
2011-12-29 05:26:30 PM
JSam21
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rorypk: ongbok: I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
So much of this right here. The douchy SEC chest beating is what turns people off to SEC football.
Well isn't that what happens when someone is dominating, they chest pound? If it was USC and the Pac 10 back on top then it would be the Pac 10 chest pounding. If it was OK or Texas in the Big 12 then they would be chest pounding. In fact the only time I have ever seen this much hate thrown at a dominating football team or conference was with Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State and the whole SEC. Talk about haters gonna hate.
spiderpaz
2011-12-29 05:41:30 PM
SEC = Schedule Easy Competition
iamdonovan
2011-12-29 05:45:59 PM
BilltheThrill
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velvet_fog: It's great Nebraska has a home for the next several decades, but Husker fans expect national titles, not just Rose Bowl wins. I feel like adding a conference title game, going to 9 conference games and now this Pac-12 arrangement is just going to create more obstacles for Big Ten national title contenders by creating more stumbling blocks in the way of going undefeated.
Yeah, who's living in 1997 here...
Michigan fans?
spiderpaz
2011-12-29 05:49:20 PM
ongbok
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JSam21: rorypk: ongbok: I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
So much of this right here. The douchy SEC chest beating is what turns people off to SEC football.
Well isn't that what happens when someone is dominating, they chest pound? If it was USC and the Pac 10 back on top then it would be the Pac 10 chest pounding. If it was OK or Texas in the Big 12 then they would be chest pounding. In fact the only time I have ever seen this much hate thrown at a dominating football team or conference was with Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State and the whole SEC. Talk about haters gonna hate.
I mostly can't stand the SEC, because they act like there aren't any other teams at their level and they try to promote this idea that any other team that consistently beats them just gets lucky and/or are posers. That and they game the system to have an edge in the BCS. It's classic good old boy crap. The same reason the rest of the world hates the American South in general. Cheating institutionally by gaming the system, and then walking around like a peacock.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/331178-the-top-ten-reasons-the-sec - hates-usc
Reasons the SEC Hates USC
USC Has More NFL Hall of Fame Inductees Than Any Other School
USC Alone Has Won Three Fewer Heismans Than the Entire SEC Conference
USC Has 38 College Football Hall of Fame Inductees, Way More Than Any Other SEC School
USC Has Won 17 College Football National Championships. USC is tied with Alabama for 17 National Championships that they could claim if they wanted. It's a wacky system, but somebody has got to win it.
Sam Cunningham and USC Show Paul Bryant That Integration is Cool
Pete Carroll Builds USC Into the Team of the Decade
merkey88
2011-12-29 06:12:14 PM
iamdonovan
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BilltheThrill: velvet_fog: It's great Nebraska has a home for the next several decades, but Husker fans expect national titles, not just Rose Bowl wins. I feel like adding a conference title game, going to 9 conference games and now this Pac-12 arrangement is just going to create more obstacles for Big Ten national title contenders by creating more stumbling blocks in the way of going undefeated.
Yeah, who's living in 1997 here...
Michigan fans?
Notre Dame fans?
DrBear
2011-12-29 06:22:06 PM
Why I like this, in five words:
WIsconsin hosts USC at Lambeau.
(as noted some of the games may be played at off-campus sites)
A Fark Handle
2011-12-29 06:25:03 PM
rorypk
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No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
seriously? let's go over how many ways you managed to be wrong. 1) it's not about farking civil war. you are right that some southern fans take pleasure in southern teams beating the shiat of northern teams, but why does that mean it's about the civil war? could it be because many other americans look down on those with southern accents, assume they are ignorant, make jokes about farking cousins & living in trailers, just because of way that they speak? could it be that southern football fans in general care more about their college football because they live in a region that did not traditionally have many professional football teams? without professional teams (beside the cheating farks at bama) the loyalty and pride was directed at the state university teams and is express loudly? 2) the whole black kids are better athletes because they're black? really? that's farking enlightened? could it be that southern kids grow up in a culture that emphasizes sports more (perhaps to a harmful extreme)? or that portions of black culture even further emphasizes sports as a means to make it in america? or that warmer weather could result in additional time play sports organized and unorganized as youths? so maybe instead of wishing your forefathers had enslaved people, your kids should go outside and play (helps if you don't care about book learning). 3) they only mentions of sec homerism in this thread so far (beside my initial sarcastic comment) have been farkers biatching about homerism or responding to posts like yours.
finally, winning teams always brag. same with conferences. big10(12), big12(10), and pac-potato fans all talk up their conferences. so why the fark should the sec be held to a higher standard? hell, what else is the south going to brag about, the number of teeth they have lost this year?
ongbok
2011-12-29 06:32:02 PM
spiderpaz
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ongbok: JSam21: rorypk: ongbok: I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
So much of this right here. The douchy SEC chest beating is what turns people off to SEC football.
Well isn't that what happens when someone is dominating, they chest pound? If it was USC and the Pac 10 back on top then it would be the Pac 10 chest pounding. If it was OK or Texas in the Big 12 then they would be chest pounding. In fact the only time I have ever seen this much hate thrown at a dominating football team or conference was with Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State and the whole SEC. Talk about haters gonna hate.
I mostly can't stand the SEC, because they act like there aren't any other teams at their level and they try to promote this idea that any other team that consistently beats them just gets lucky and/or are posers. That and they game the system to have an edge in the BCS. It's classic good old boy crap. The same reason the rest of the world hates the American South in general. Cheating institutionally by gaming the system, and then walking around like a peacock.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/331178-the-top-ten-reasons-the-sec - hates-usc
Reasons the SEC Hates USC
USC Has More NFL Hall of Fame Inductees Than Any Other School
USC Alone Has Won Three Fewer Heismans Than the Entire SEC Conference
USC Has 38 College Football Hall of Fame Inductees, Way More Than Any Other SEC School
USC Has Wo ...
Well right now no one is at the level of the SEC. The NC has been won by the SEC for 5 straight years, this year will make it 6, and including this year since the BCS was put into place in 1998 the NC has gone to the SEC 8 times. That is the type of domination that puts you on a level that nobody else is on.
And how do they game the system? Is it because they do a better job at recruiting players than other schools? I sure they do the same thing that other schools try to do. So stop with all of the buthurt because the SEC is the dominant conference right now. In a few years they won't be and someone other team or conference will take their place.
The_Six_Fingered_Man
2011-12-29 06:39:36 PM
ongbok
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Is it because they do a better job at recruiting players than other schools?
Actually, yes. They oversign, which allows them to sign the absolute best players that they can, then cut them when they need to get down to roster size. I'm not sure about other conferences, but the B1G explicitly prohibits oversigning.
rorypk
2011-12-29 06:42:07 PM
A Fark Handle
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rorypk: No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
seriously? let's go over how many ways you managed to be wrong. 1) it's not about farking civil war. you are right that some southern fans take pleasure in southern teams beating the shiat of northern teams, but why does that mean it's about the civil war? could it be because many other americans look down on those with southern accents, assume they are ignorant, make jokes about farking cousins & living in trailers, just because of way that they speak? could it be that southern football fans in general care more about their college football because they live in a region that did not traditionally have many professional football teams? without professional teams (beside the cheating farks at bama) the loyalty and pride was directed at the state university teams and is express loudly? 2) the whole black kids are better athletes because they're black? really? that's farking enlightened? could it be that southern kids grow up in a culture that emphasizes sports more (perhaps to a harmful extreme)? or that portions of black culture even further emphasizes sports as a means to make it in america? or that warmer weather could result in additional time play sports organized and unorganized as youths? so maybe instead of wishing your forefathers had enslaved people, your kids should go outside and play (helps if you don't care about book learning). 3) they only mentions of sec homerism in this thread so far (beside my initial sarcastic comment) have been farkers biatching about homerism or responding to posts like yours.
finally, winning teams always brag. same with conferences. big10(12), big12(10), and pac-potato fans all talk up their conferences. so why the fark should the sec be h ...
Your whole post is just southern inferiority complex in a tl;dr format. Is it racist to point out that black people are generally better at football? Oh, reverse racism, nullifying real southern racism since 1865.
rcf1105
2011-12-29 06:52:58 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man
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Actually, yes. They oversign, which allows them to sign the absolute best players that they can, then cut them when they need to get down to roster size. I'm not sure about other conferences, but the B1G explicitly prohibits oversigning.
Yep, this is what caused Georgia Tech to leave the SEC - Bobby Dodd thought it was wrong. Bear Bryant was particularly notorious for this - he would oversign and then cut people during or after summer practices, effectively having scholarship tryouts.
Pratty
2011-12-29 06:57:00 PM
rcf1105
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The_Six_Fingered_Man: Actually, yes. They oversign, which allows them to sign the absolute best players that they can, then cut them when they need to get down to roster size. I'm not sure about other conferences, but the B1G explicitly prohibits oversigning.
Yep, this is what caused Georgia Tech to leave the SEC - Bobby Dodd thought it was wrong. Bear Bryant was particularly notorious for this - he would oversign and then cut people during or after summer practices, effectively having scholarship tryouts.
Pretty sure Richt doesn't oversign, thus continuing awesome.
/But I could be wrong
ongbok
2011-12-29 06:59:04 PM
The_Six_Fingered_Man
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ongbok: Is it because they do a better job at recruiting players than other schools?
Actually, yes. They oversign, which allows them to sign the absolute best players that they can, then cut them when they need to get down to roster size. I'm not sure about other conferences, but the B1G explicitly prohibits oversigning.
From what I read the Big 10 does allow for some oversigning, they just limit it to 3 players a year. But other conferences, especially the Big 12, follows the same oversigning process that some SEC schools follow. Why aren't the other conferences dominating like the SEC?.
bel4sucks
2011-12-29 06:59:06 PM
Pratty
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Pretty sure Richt doesn't oversign, thus continuing awesome.
/But I could be wrong
He is one of the biggest voices against oversigning there is
IAmRight
2011-12-29 07:17:24 PM
ongbok
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the whole SEC.
It was kinda pathetic when LSU came to Washington a few years ago and upon beating a crappy UW team, chanted S-E-C! S-E-C!
Not proud of their school, but acting like the conference won.
steamingpile
2011-12-29 07:19:56 PM
spiderpaz
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ongbok: JSam21: rorypk: ongbok: I'm not a SEC nut hanger, Big Ten fan myself, but I don't get all of the SEC hate out there. I will give it up and recognize that they do a better job of recruiting, developing talent, coaching and putting a good team out on the field than any other conference has been doing lately. People just need to face the fact that the SEC is the best right now.
No one hates the SEC, they hate SEC fans. I say it in as many SEC threads as I can, SEC homerism is just an offshoot of civil war butt hurt. You lost the war, get over it.
Maybe the Big10 and Pac12 would have better recruiting if our forefathers enslaved people too.
So much of this right here. The douchy SEC chest beating is what turns people off to SEC football.
Well isn't that what happens when someone is dominating, they chest pound? If it was USC and the Pac 10 back on top then it would be the Pac 10 chest pounding. If it was OK or Texas in the Big 12 then they would be chest pounding. In fact the only time I have ever seen this much hate thrown at a dominating football team or conference was with Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State and the whole SEC. Talk about haters gonna hate.
I mostly can't stand the SEC, because they act like there aren't any other teams at their level and they try to promote this idea that any other team that consistently beats them just gets lucky and/or are posers. That and they game the system to have an edge in the BCS. It's classic good old boy crap. The same reason the rest of the world hates the American South in general. Cheating institutionally by gaming the system, and then walking around like a peacock.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/331178-the-top-ten-reasons-the-sec - hates-usc
Reasons the SEC Hates USC
USC Has More NFL Hall of Fame Inductees Than Any Other School
USC Alone Has Won Three Fewer Heismans Than the Entire SEC Conference
USC Has 38 College Football Hall of Fame Inductees, Way More Than Any Other SEC School
USC Has Won 17 College Football National Championships. USC is tied with Alabama for 17 National Championships that they could claim if they wanted. It's a wacky system, but somebody has got to win it.
Sam Cunningham and USC Show Paul Bryant That Integration is Cool
Pete Carroll Builds USC Into the Team of the Decade
Ancient history, their scandals have made sure they haven't won a NC in 20 years.
USC fans are delusional.
rcf1105
2011-12-29 07:24:11 PM
ongbok
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From what I read the Big 10 does allow for some oversigning, they just limit it to 3 players a year. But other conferences, especially the Big 12, follows the same oversigning process that some SEC schools follow. Why aren't the other conferences dominating like the SEC?.
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