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(CBS Dallas/Ft. Worth)   'If you build it, they will come' doesn't apply to the $1 billion Cowboys Stadium. Note to Jerry Jones: Put a decent team on the field, and they will come   (dfw.cbslocal.com) divider line 172
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2011-12-29 07:17:58 AM
kkinnison: Sold out since 1960

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Seats 73,000+ and they have TWO sets of season ticket holders. the Green and the Gold package. When they quit playing in Milwaukee they took their fans with them, the fans didn't lose their tickets plus everybody on the Milwaukee season ticket waiting list got tickets to GB also. They are adding 6,600 more seats to bring attendance up to 79,600+. I know they hold about 4,000 tickets, per game, for Brown County residence, plus I don't know how they count the seating / attendance for the luxury boxes. Anyway that adds up to about 150,000 season ticket holders and getting tickets (at face value) is almost impossible.

/if you signed up for season tickets today at the current turnover rate it would take over 850 years to get tickets
//Number 5,010 on list, so with the expansion I should have tickets in about 5 years
///America's Team
 
2011-12-29 08:25:27 AM
Going to football games is usually an unenjoyable experience.

Pay $60-$100 for a ticket.. cold... traffic..

And most of the time you're watching athletes standing on the field just waiting for the commercials to end so they can play.
 
2011-12-29 09:13:57 AM
PurpleAlienGiraffe: lunchinlewis:
heh heh, sorry I had to chuckle a little. I lived right there for a couple of years back in the mid 90's. I can't think of anything around there back then I would miss for not being able to drive there. Is J Gilligan's still in business?

I should think the area has changed a lot in the last 15 years. A bunch more highish end restaurants, more international businesses, change in demographics, etc. Plus, the population has grown 100,000+ since 1995. And yes, J Gilligan's is still going strong. Happened to be there during one of the World Series games. My aunt planned her birthday bash there 3 months prior not knowing a game would be on the day, of course. The roar at the Ballpark was so loud we could hear it from INSIDE the building on a few occasions. My first and hopefully only visit to that place. Was not impressed. Not bad service, though. At least they have enough farking TVs for everyone.

/I don't follow sports
//bah humbug?


I was in grad school for architecture at the time, and we used to drive down Abrams and Division and think about all the development opportunities in all the empty industrial-type buildings around there. Of course most of the development ideas revolved around pooling enough money to buy an empty building and turn it into a beer garden. I can imagine most of the vacant garage type buildings have been torn down or turned into something by now.
 
2011-12-29 11:30:58 AM
I've passed up free tix to Cowboys games before (hate the drive, traffic, and finding myself staring at a screen when I have a perfectly good media room at home), but the wife lamented a few months ago that this would be the first year she hadn't gone in her memory (her late step-father had season tickets for years and years).

So, long ass story short, surprised her with tickets to the (completely lame) Christmas Eve game. Again, I would've rather watched at home, but it meant a lot to her.

i43.tinypic.com

/At least the seats were excellent
//And free
///CSB
 
2011-12-29 12:49:22 PM
falcon176: Jets 17 points in the 4th quarter, lead blown
Lions Romo throws back to back pick sixes, 17 points in 4th quarter, lead blown
Pats 4th quarter lead blown
Cardinals 4th quarter lead blown, ice own kicker
Giants 4th quarter lead blown, kicker is iced again, but at least it wasn't by his own coach

yeah those are all chokes


Are you implying that every single time a lead is lost, it's a choke? That there can never be a back & forth in scoring or it's a choke? If you use it constantly, it loses its meaning.


TheGhostofFarkPast: Jerry also decided to build it as far away as they could from public transportation. So unlike other major cities where you can take the subway right to it or possibly a train he made sure you had to put money in his pocket. TX is like every conservatives wet dream because they let corporations do whatever they want so they end up screwing people over and people complain but they never vote new people in. it's the most bizarre abused wife situation I have ever seen.

What a stupid post. Jerry tried to build it in downtown Dallas until Mayor Laura Miller said no, so your stupid conspiracy theory that Jerry intentionally built it so no one could take a train to it is lame and completely without merit or any proof outside of your own miserable brain.

Oh and FYI, Laura Miller was a Democrat.
 
2011-12-29 12:55:27 PM
Di Atribe: Are you implying that every single time a lead is lost, it's a choke? That there can never be a back & forth in scoring or it's a choke? If you use it constantly, it loses its meaning.

To me, choking requires a team to do things it usually doesn't do to lose a game they should have won. In Romo's case, he's ALWAYS doing stupid things, therefore when he does stupid things, it's not a choke.
 
2011-12-29 02:42:54 PM
jaylectricity: To me, choking requires a team to do things it usually doesn't do to lose a game they should have won. In Romo's case, he's ALWAYS doing stupid things, therefore when he does stupid things, it's not a choke.

I'll choke YOU
 
2011-12-29 03:13:57 PM
Di Atribe: falcon176: Jets 17 points in the 4th quarter, lead blown



TheGhostofFarkPast: Jerry also decided to build it as far away as they could from public transportation. So unlike other major cities where you can take the subway right to it or possibly a train he made sure you had to put money in his pocket. TX is like every conservatives wet dream because they let corporations do whatever they want so they end up screwing people over and people complain but they never vote new people in. it's the most bizarre abused wife situation I have ever seen.

What a stupid post. Jerry tried to build it in downtown Dallas until Mayor Laura Miller said no, so your stupid conspiracy theory that Jerry intentionally built it so no one could take a train to it is lame and completely without merit or any proof outside of your own miserable brain.

Oh and FYI, Laura Miller was a Democrat.


Democrat in TX is a whole other ballgame.

Also if Jones really and truly wanted to build at Fair Park or nearer to downtown and the Trinity River, I seriously doubt Miller's reception would have been a deal-breaker. He obviously wanted significant taxpayer contribution to the project. As Dallas County Commissioner Mike Cantrell correctly pointed out, the courtship of the Cowboys involved a lot of people at Dallas City Hall and Dallas County government -- not just Miller. The mayor and others raised some legitimate questions about whether it made economic sense for Dallas to hand over hundreds of millions of dollars for a stadium. Dallas couldn't offer the huge swath of land that Arlington could, and Arlington officials were far more motivated to negotiate with Jones. The Cowboys owner rightly took the best deal he could get. If Miller didn't agree that $300 million or who knows how much was in the best interests of the city.

Jones got his one-of-a-kind sporting palace. Arlington got that stadium and all the ancillary development. Arlington voters decided to help the Dallas Cowboys build a $650 million stadium - sharing the cost 50-50 which is a massive cost to the city but again like everything else down here businesses get first priority not the aging school system or the lack of infrastructure.

So yes it was Jerry who wouldn't return to the table, he acted like a fool after Miller and the city told him a no go and then went and built it in the middle of no where in Arlington which ended up screwing everyone over who wanted to try and take decent public transportation to the game. It put more money in Jerry's pocket since everyone has to drive now and he could careless about commuters or making it easy for people to get there.
 
2011-12-29 03:31:51 PM
mikaloyd: Treygreen13: This is from the last row of the 3rd section, where I went up as high as I felt like on my first tour. As you might notice the Packers logo is still on the end-zone from the Super Bowl. There's still PLENTY of space to see the field - as you can see you'd have to be up considerably higher for the TV to even start cutting off your view of the sidelines, let alone the field.

Are there 4 sections? Looks like it across the way


Yep. I was at the top of the 3rd, so it does go up higher. But you'd have to be REALLY high up to have the screen block your view of the field. I mean, top row, standing on your tippy toes, Manute Bol's taller cousin type high.
 
2011-12-29 04:10:19 PM
falcon176: Cowboys 7 losses:

Jets - Choke
Lions - Choke
Patriots - Choke
Eagles- Destroyed
Cardinals - Choke
Giants - Choke
Eagles - Didn't matter

fire everybody


I wouldn't call the Pats game a choke by any stretch. They kept a high flying Tom Brady offense to 20 points and, quite frankly, it is HARD to stop Tom Brady with two minutes to go in the fourth. I don't see how losing to one of the best QBs in the league playing well on an offensive minded team by 4 is a choke, even if they lost on the last drive. If anything, Brady was clutch, not the Cowboys choked.
 
2011-12-29 05:13:43 PM
Di Atribe: jaylectricity: To me, choking requires a team to do things it usually doesn't do to lose a game they should have won. In Romo's case, he's ALWAYS doing stupid things, therefore when he does stupid things, it's not a choke.

I'll choke YOU


Easy, girl! We had to put up with Drew Bledsoe for nearly a decade! What you had was a mere shadow of the frustration we felt.
 
2011-12-29 06:05:10 PM
jaylectricity: Easy, girl! We had to put up with Drew Bledsoe for nearly a decade! What you had was a mere shadow of the frustration we felt.

Bledsoe was a breath of fresh air compared to what we'd been dealing with before. I would advise against looking it up. It will only make your soul cry.
 
2011-12-29 06:09:40 PM
jaylectricity: Easy, girl!

Also, this made me LOL. You are not so bad, I guess. ;)
 
2011-12-29 06:09:50 PM
Di Atribe: jaylectricity: Easy, girl! We had to put up with Drew Bledsoe for nearly a decade! What you had was a mere shadow of the frustration we felt.

Bledsoe was a breath of fresh air compared to what we'd been dealing with before. I would advise against looking it up. It will only make your soul cry.


Well, it could be worse.

Your QB tree could have been the Bengal's.
 
2011-12-29 06:48:48 PM
Di Atribe: You are not so bad, I guess. ;)

Back atcha Lady Di.
 
2011-12-29 08:03:11 PM
Di Atribe: No you wouldn't. The big screen is pretty and it's only in your way if you're up in the rafters. Also, I've never waited in line for the bathroom at Cowboys Stadium. They made sure to make the bathrooms quite large and plentiful.

People go because they want to be at the game. I thought that was a pretty simple thing to figure out.


I had tickets to the Cowboys vs Seahawks game and ended up with seats in the very highest row (picture from our seats). The video board does not get in the way and very good site lines to the field. The video board only adds to the enjoyment.

Staying at home and watching is cheaper, but I love going to see at least one game a year. It's worth it to me.
 
2011-12-29 08:14:15 PM
Treygreen13: But you'd have to be REALLY high up to have the screen block your view of the field.

Nope. Even at the highest row, the video board is not in the way. I'm not Manute Bol tall, but I'm 6'5".

See pic from top row at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31290277@N07/6597344801
 
2011-12-29 11:18:30 PM
Di Atribe: You mean like the way I avoid Texas Motor Speedway every time they have a race? And how I always know when they have a race, even though I don't follow NASCAR? It's almost TOO easy, searching for alternate routes in a big city with lots of routes.

LOL this is a bullshiat line of reasoning and you know it. The stadium is in a decent sized city, and putting that many people in a place that size might cause problems for people. The track is situated between two tiny towns and has almost direct highway access. I doubt like farking hell you do too much driving through Roanoke.
 
2011-12-30 02:18:20 AM
hophead929: Treygreen13: But you'd have to be REALLY high up to have the screen block your view of the field.

Nope. Even at the highest row, the video board is not in the way. I'm not Manute Bol tall, but I'm 6'5".

See pic from top row at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/31290277@N07/6597344801


Cool pic.

So to get this straight, Dougie is full. of. shiat.
 
2011-12-30 03:40:15 PM
bel4sucks: LOL this is a bullshiat line of reasoning and you know it. The stadium is in a decent sized city, and putting that many people in a place that size might cause problems for people. The track is situated between two tiny towns and has almost direct highway access. I doubt like farking hell you do too much driving through Roanoke.

Like I give a crap about what you doubt? You don't know anything about me, troll. I drive between Denton & Ft Worth at least once a week, so yes, that includes driving through Roanoke, so I am completely, 100% aware of the problems that TMS causes. The thing is, when TMS was built, the infrastructure surrounding it could not handle all of the rednecks NASCAR fans. One 4 lane interstate and a 2-lane state highway was not enough to handle 200,000 people at one time. They've done a better job of controlling traffic in the past couple of years, but it still sucks on race day.

Also, if you'll please note, TMS holds roughly twice as many people as Cowboys Stadium. Now fark off.
 
2011-12-31 10:41:32 AM
Di Atribe:
Like I give a crap about what you doubt? You don't know anything about me, troll. I drive between Denton & Ft Worth at least once a week, so yes, that includes driving through Roanoke, so I am completely, 100% aware of the problems that TMS causes. The thing is, when TMS was built, the infrastructure surrounding it could not handle all of the rednecks NASCAR fans. One 4 lane interstate and a 2-lane state highway was not enough to handle 200,000 people at one time. They've done a better job of controlling traffic in the past couple of years, but it still sucks on race day.

Also, if you'll please note, TMS holds roughly twice as many people as Cowboys Stadium. Now fark off.


LOL you troll this place as much as I supposedly do, so if that isn't the stupid biatch calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. At least your name fits, cause damn near 100% of your posts are biatchy, self absorbed rants. Especially since the bomb that goes off when TMS lets out isn't anywhere near comparable to the one when the cowboys play. It's direct highway access plus 4 lanes of 114 vs letting out in a city environment. You aren't driving through Roanoke that much cause only a dumbass would take 377 over 35 anyway. And on a Sunday too. Nice judgmental attitude with your biatchy little strikeout too, ya stuck up biatch.

farkin kill yourself ho, make the world a happier place.
 
2011-12-31 03:14:29 PM
bel4sucks: LOL you troll this place as much as I supposedly do

No, I don't. I also don't come into threads late and call people names and make no point. You are a waste of pixels.
 
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