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(Some Guy) Ironic Despite my name being at the top of this column, I'm so busy lately I can't remember for sure whether I wrote all the words in this column, so I can't be held responsible for calling Ron Paul a racist, anti-gay conspiracist   (commondreams.org) divider line 247
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2011-12-28 11:00:37 AM
Heh.
 
2011-12-28 11:16:04 AM
Obama won in spite of his association with radicals, including his personal mentor who we saw screaming "GOD DAMN AMERICA" and biatching about the evil white man... Does it really matter if Ron Paul let someone say that the LA riots ended because blacks had to pick up their welfare checks? Come on. He's the only candidate (Obama included) that is against war, against out of control government spending, and for personal liberties.
 
2011-12-28 11:16:30 AM
Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.
 
2011-12-28 11:18:54 AM
If he wrote them, I'd be happy if he just said he has had a change of heart and no longer believes those things. If he didn't, he should acknowledge that he majorly screwed up at managing his newsletter. Just disavowing them is really unsatisfying.
 
2011-12-28 11:19:14 AM
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *gasp* Hahahahaha!

That didn't take long.
 
2011-12-28 11:19:20 AM
SpeshilEdjukashin: Obama won in spite of his association with radicals, including his personal mentor who we saw screaming "GOD DAMN AMERICA" and biatching about the evil white man... Does it really matter if Ron Paul let someone say that the LA riots ended because blacks had to pick up their welfare checks? Come on. He's the only candidate (Obama included) that is against war, against out of control government spending, and for personal liberties.

....Not sure if serious.

Yes, it does matter.

It's one thing to have a 3rd party saying these things and be remotely affiliated with this person.

It's a completely other thing to defend and refuse to disavow such rhetoric with your name attached to it, even if you yourself didn't write it. I would think that if someone started publishing hateful, racist, homophobic and outright farking loony things in my name, my first priority would be to say "Hey, knock it off chucklefarks."
 
2011-12-28 11:20:10 AM
For those with any lingering doubts, let me clarify Ron Paul's chances of becoming President of the United States:

Zero
Zip
Zilch
Nada
No chance in Hell
Etc.
Etc.

/but it would be an interesting campaign
 
2011-12-28 11:22:06 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk: For those with any lingering doubts, let me clarify Ron Paul's chances of becoming President of the United States:

Zero
Zip
Zilch
Nada
No chance in Hell
Etc.
Etc.

/but it would be an interesting campaign


You're right. While "liberals" question his beliefs, his own party is slipping the knife in.
 
2011-12-28 11:23:26 AM
jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.
 
2011-12-28 11:28:50 AM
Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.


If they're ignoring anything that happened in the Clinton era that would explain Newt showing up again.
 
2011-12-28 11:31:19 AM
SpeshilEdjukashin: Obama won in spite of his association with radicals, including his personal mentor who we saw screaming "GOD DAMN AMERICA" and biatching about the evil white man... Does it really matter if Ron Paul let someone say that the LA riots ended because blacks had to pick up their welfare checks? Come on. He's the only candidate (Obama included) that is against war, against out of control government spending, and for personal liberties.

So guilt by association with someone who is racist is worse than being racist?
 
2011-12-28 11:34:10 AM
jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

It's not our fault Paul is such an old fark. He likes to take credit for alot of shiat that went down in the Reagan, Bush Senior days. It only seems fair to whole him accountable for his more recent racist hate speech.
 
2011-12-28 11:37:17 AM
Lulz. I has many lulz.
 
2011-12-28 11:39:25 AM
mrshowrules: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

It's not our fault Paul is such an old fark. He likes to take credit for alot of shiat that went down in the Reagan, Bush Senior days. It only seems fair to whole him accountable for his more recent racist hate speech.


heh. Yah, funny how this crowd loves to (selectively) quote from Madison and Jefferson, but actually quoting the people who are running for office and still alive? Unfair! Bias! Bias!
 
2011-12-28 11:47:53 AM
Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.


I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...
 
2011-12-28 11:50:42 AM
jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...


Has he had a change of position? It's unfortunate that he doesn't have some sort of outlet to say so.
 
2011-12-28 11:54:14 AM
jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...


It is possible but for it to be sincere, you have to admit you had a different position at some point otherwise you just look like a closeted unrepentant racist trying to get elected.
 
2011-12-28 11:55:41 AM
James!: jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...

Has he had a change of position? It's unfortunate that he doesn't have some sort of outlet to say so.


If only he could print a newsletter...
 
2011-12-28 11:56:54 AM
jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...


Entirely possible. Paul isn't a guy who minces words when he talks about letting someone die of cancer because they didn't make enough money to pay for treatment. One has to wonder why he is so gentle and surgeon-like when edging around the malignant tissue of his own character?
 
2011-12-28 11:57:39 AM
If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.
 
2011-12-28 12:01:11 PM
Now he's a liar.

Ron Paul idiots: this is the dipsh*t you're supporting.
 
2011-12-28 12:02:47 PM
jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...


Except that Paul has made every other excuse but that one to distance himself from them.
 
2011-12-28 12:05:03 PM
jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Doesn't matter. You do not LIE about being involved with something like this when all the evidence points to you being the one who published the letters. With your name on it.

Stop defending this asshole.
 
2011-12-28 12:05:35 PM
It was a different time, I was a foolish 60-year-old...
 
2011-12-28 12:05:37 PM
Cagey B: If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.

Judging by his stated positions and philosophy, I honestly doubt much managing of the govt would be going on under his watch anyway.
 
2011-12-28 12:05:42 PM
www.achievement.org

Approves
 
2011-12-28 12:05:49 PM
RON PAUL fans should try to find someone who's against the war, spending and all that who isn't also a crazy old racist. I'm sure they're out there.
 
2011-12-28 12:06:16 PM
mrshowrules: SpeshilEdjukashin: Obama won in spite of his association with radicals, including his personal mentor who we saw screaming "GOD DAMN AMERICA" and biatching about the evil white man... Does it really matter if Ron Paul let someone say that the LA riots ended because blacks had to pick up their welfare checks? Come on. He's the only candidate (Obama included) that is against war, against out of control government spending, and for personal liberties.

So guilt by association with someone who is racist is worse than being racist?


It is when the candidate is a ni-BONG!!!!!
 
2011-12-28 12:06:27 PM
Cagey B: If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.

He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.
 
2011-12-28 12:07:52 PM
Codenamechaz: Cagey B: If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.

He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.


B-but the SOUTH'S GONNA DO IT AGIN...
 
2011-12-28 12:09:28 PM
Codenamechaz: Cagey B: If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.

He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.


For a guy who wants to destroy the federal government, he sure hasn't minded cashing those government checks for more than a quarter century.
 
2011-12-28 12:10:44 PM
jbuist: Wendy's Chili: jbuist: Oh, for f*ck's sake, this was during the Clinton era.

Yeah. The ninties were a different time. Racism was totally ok back then.

I'm sure it isn't possible for someone to have a change of position in 16 years either...


I've been told by a rabid Paul-supporter friend that he has never changed his position on anything ever ever ever ever ever. Therefore he should be president, both in the future and retroactively.. or something. My ears start bleeding before I really know what the point of the conversation is.
 
2011-12-28 12:11:42 PM
whidbey: Stop defending this asshole.

I'm just posting comments from older threads defending Robert Byrd.
 
2011-12-28 12:12:47 PM
jbuist: whidbey: Stop defending this asshole.

I'm just posting comments from older threads defending Robert Byrd.


Anyone who brings up Byrd is not interested in anything remotely resembling a serious discussion.

You do know that, right?
 
2011-12-28 12:12:48 PM
jbuist: whidbey: Stop defending this asshole.

I'm just posting comments from older threads defending Robert Byrd.


Byrd renounced his membership in the KKK and apologized.
 
2011-12-28 12:12:50 PM
Codenamechaz: He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.


Well yeah, he's insane. This is just one facet of the Jabbering Diamond of Crazy that is the Ron Paul campaign.
 
2011-12-28 12:13:32 PM
Codenamechaz: Cagey B: If you can't manage a newsletter sent out by your organization that has YOUR FREAKING NAME at the top, you sure as shiat shouldn't be managing the federal government.

He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.


So, if he destroys the federal government, would he then continue to be the President?

If he hates government so much, why has he been a part of it since the 70s?
 
2011-12-28 12:14:30 PM
Racist or not, Obama signed the NDAA. Ron Paul did not. Newsletters, Preachers, Hope, Change, NAFTA super Highways -- all BS.

Which person would work to end to costly wars on terror and drugs? With Iran on the table, this next election is going to be more important than ever.

Obama's a smart guy. Just not what I expected him to be. Paul maybe a racist, but at the same time I doubt he would lead us into another war. So again, it's the "Who's the lesser of two evils".

I'd give Paul 4 years. What the hell.
 
2011-12-28 12:14:59 PM
jbuist: I'm just posting comments from older threads defending Robert Byrd.

Uh oh guys, he's got us. Everyone start scrubbing all the "Robert Byrd in 2008" presidential campaign material.
 
2011-12-28 12:15:12 PM
Cagey B: Codenamechaz: He doesn't want to manage the federal government. He wants to destroy it.

Literally.

I mean seriously, that's what he's campaigning on.

Well yeah, he's insane. This is just one facet of the Jabbering Diamond of Crazy that is the Ron Paul campaign.


Paul's neo-confederacy bullshiat would work out great for Texas. They could teach all their children that Dinosaurs are imaginary and arm everyone in the womb. Heaven help you if you have to deal with anything between states though.
 
2011-12-28 12:15:43 PM
jbuist: whidbey: Stop defending this asshole.

I'm just posting comments from older threads defending Robert Byrd.


Byrd renounced his Klan membership as well as what they stood for. Has Paul ever accepted responsibility for his newsletter?
 
2011-12-28 12:16:25 PM
ourbigdumbmouth: I'd give Paul 4 years. What the hell.

They said the same thing about Hitler. Just saying. That none of his "crazy ideas" would ever come to fruition, that we should give him a chance derp derp derp derp. Just like you're doing.
 
2011-12-28 12:17:24 PM
ourbigdumbmouth: Racist or not, Obama signed the NDAA. Ron Paul did not. Newsletters, Preachers, Hope, Change, NAFTA super Highways -- all BS.

Which person would work to end to costly wars on terror and drugs? With Iran on the table, this next election is going to be more important than ever.

Obama's a smart guy. Just not what I expected him to be. Paul maybe a racist, but at the same time I doubt he would lead us into another war. So again, it's the "Who's the lesser of two evils".

I'd give Paul 4 years. What the hell.


So you hate gays, women, and everyone who needs benefits to survive?
 
2011-12-28 12:19:58 PM
ourbigdumbmouth: Racist or not, Obama signed the NDAA. Ron Paul did not. Newsletters, Preachers, Hope, Change, NAFTA super Highways -- all BS.

Which person would work to end to costly wars on terror and drugs? With Iran on the table, this next election is going to be more important than ever.

Obama's a smart guy. Just not what I expected him to be. Paul maybe a racist, but at the same time I doubt he would lead us into another war. So again, it's the "Who's the lesser of two evils".

I'd give Paul 4 years. What the hell.


This is the mindset that I don't really understand.

Candidate 1: I am crazy 95% of the time and would like to destroy our current form of government in its entirety. However, I voted against an extension of executive power.

Candidate 2: I voted for the expansion of executive power, but am otherwise sane and competent in 99% of my other Presidential duties.

So, I'm wroth that Obama is for the NDAA. I seriously hate it and I have lost much respect for him as a constitutional scholar and as my President. That being said, I cannot understand why Ron Paul has such bipartisan support WHEN HE IS EFFING CRAZY.
 
2011-12-28 12:22:35 PM
Fart_Machine: Byrd renounced his Klan membership as well as what they stood for. Has Paul ever accepted responsibility for his newsletter?

Depends on what year it was. In the mid 90's he was saying he wrote (or at least read) the material and said it wasn't right.

Now he denies even knowing it was in the newsletters and says that's not what he thinks.
 
2011-12-28 12:22:38 PM
ourbigdumbmouth: Racist or not, Obama signed the NDAA. Ron Paul did not. Newsletters, Preachers, Hope, Change, NAFTA super Highways -- all BS.

Which person would work to end to costly wars on terror and drugs? With Iran on the table, this next election is going to be more important than ever.

Obama's a smart guy. Just not what I expected him to be. Paul maybe a racist, but at the same time I doubt he would lead us into another war. So again, it's the "Who's the lesser of two evils".

I'd give Paul 4 years. What the hell.


Dude, Paul only votes against things that are a foregone conclusion favorable to the GOP. That's why he voted against spending bills, but only after he knew they had enough votes to pass and were loaded them up with pork projects for his district. It's a shell game designed to appeal to Libertarians.

But, hey. He wants to make weed legal, so that's enough, right?
 
2011-12-28 12:22:43 PM
ourbigdumbmouth: With Iran on the table, this next election is going to be more important than ever.

I seriously doubt Obama would take us to war with Iran.
 
2011-12-28 12:22:45 PM
Pete? Meet Repeat.
 
2011-12-28 12:23:15 PM
As I said in the thread yesterday: for a supposed "libertarian," Ron Paul's policy positions are eerily indistinguishable from those of Pat Buchanan. Now, evidently, the two have a lot in common in their background as well.
 
2011-12-28 12:23:36 PM
RichieLaw: cannot understand why Ron Paul has such bipartisan support

He doesn't.

He's got a handful of crazies that will not STFU even when successfully countered.
 
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