I'd have to see the material in question, as there shouldn't be anything wrong with a class that teaches the ethnic and social history of the area.

Aarontology: What were they thinking when they separated the kids by ethnicity?

That was just stupid.

Maybe it's like sex ed. "You may have noticed these changes in your body. Yes, you are becoming a Mexican-American."

It's not like public schools are more than warehouses to store children and teach them conformity anyway, we wouldn't want them to get an education and actually realize certain truths about the society in which they live.

Maybe we should put them on reservations and give them casinos?

//Worked with that other group whitey crushed in AZ

Here's a new lesson for the class.

And now, music appreciation class:

Oh subby, your headline makes me chuckle. I wonder what the article really says...

*click*

Oh. You wern't kidding.

I_Am_Weasel: SundaesChild: It's not like public schools are more than warehouses to store children and teach them conformity anyway, we wouldn't want them to get an education and actually realize certain truths about the society in which they live.

Schools are there to teach you how to be sensible, logical, responsible and practical. They may also show you a world where you can be dependable, clinical, intellectual and, in many cases, cynical.

What you did there, I see it.

TheDumbBlonde: Everything white people need to know about Mexico can be learned with one weekend in Juarez.

Sex and drugs?!

TheDumbBlonde: Everything white people need to know about Mexico can be learned with one weekend in Juarez.

Everything the world needs to know about how people in the US really think is by reading Youtube comments.

TheDumbBlonde: Everything white people need to know about Mexico can be learned with one weekend in Juarez.

It is unknown what ethnic group dominated the present day municipality of Juárez region in pre-Columbian times.

"This would make the children confused as to their own ethnicity, possibly creating resentment and even introspection," the judge said. "Thus, I've no choice but to rule the class illegal."

They should teach them what we did to the Native and African Americans as well.

At last then our mistreatment of them won't seem so bad.

"So what if we lied and stole your land. Hey, we never enslaved you and gave you diseases blankets or anything!"

RexTalionis: I'm not exactly sure why an ethnic studies program is even necessary, especially at the primary or secondary school level. If they really want to pursue that kind of (in my opinion, largely worthless) studies, they can do it at college.

But I thought that colleges were places to learn a trade, not develop the mind? And such unnecessary studies are best kept for hobbies?

Snarfangel: Maybe it's like sex ed. "You may have noticed these changes in your body. Yes, you are becoming a Mexican-American."

You may start to notice a car parked on your lawn, where before there was none. You may also notice that you are drawn to certain tools, like a pressure washer or a dent puller. These are all perfectly normal parts of becoming a Mexican American.

RexTalionis: I'm not exactly sure why an ethnic studies program is even necessary, especially at the primary or secondary school level. If they really want to pursue that kind of (in my opinion, largely worthless) studies, they can do it at college.

Yeah who needs to learn about other cultures, they's all a worthless bunch a goldang foreigners if you ask me.

Magnanimous_J: Snarfangel: Maybe it's like sex ed. "You may have noticed these changes in your body. Yes, you are becoming a Mexican-American."

You may start to notice a car parked on your lawn, where before there was none. You may also notice that you are drawn to certain tools, like a pressure washer or a dent puller. These are all perfectly normal parts of becoming a Mexican American.

Your world is changing. You're beginning to notice things you never used to, like the grocery store you buy cereal at sells dangerous weapons as impulse items.

RexTalionis: I'm not exactly sure why an ethnic studies program is even necessary, especially at the primary or secondary school level. If they really want to pursue that kind of (in my opinion, largely worthless) studies, they can do it at college.

um, at least where I went to school (Michigan) a non-western civ history class was required to graduate.

Jim from Saint Paul: Oh subby, your headline makes me chuckle. I wonder what the article really says...

*click*

Oh. You wern't kidding.

Yeah, he was.

FTA:

"...teaching oppression objectively is quite different than actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner, which is what occurred in (Mexican-American Studies) classes," Kowal wrote.

This story has been in the news for a while. Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history. The intent of the program appeared to incite hatred against non-hispanic groups. The entire program presented history in a "actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner".

This improper program needed to be cancelled and clearly is inappropriate in a a public school environment. It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

gblive: Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history.

I wonder if we can outlaw what most schools teach as American / US history then...
/At most schools there is a selection bias in what is currently taught, even if it is all factually correct.

What el submittardo may look like.

gblive: This story has been in the news for a while. Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history. The intent of the program appeared to incite hatred against non-hispanic groups. The entire program presented history in a "actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner".

This improper program needed to be cancelled and clearly is inappropriate in a a public school environment. It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

Yeah, the whole "we stole it from them, screwed them over for decades and continue to do it to this very day" line of thought tends to get the Sun City crowd up in arms. They really hate reality.

gblive: This story has been in the news for a while. Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history. The intent of the program appeared to incite hatred against non-hispanic groups. The entire program presented history in a "actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner".

This improper program needed to be cancelled and clearly is inappropriate in a a public school environment. It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

So we need to enforce the rule that it's the winners that write the history no matter how treacherous they are.

gblive: It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

I wonder when the courts will intercede and mandate that the current history being taught to children in most schools has been whitewashed and cleaned up to favor the Europeans who settled America. History is written by the victors and all that. I'd like to think that we'd have fewer adults now who wrongly believe in American exceptionalism and infallibility had they been required to study some of the more unpleasant aspects of American foreign and domestic policy over the years.

rmoody: gblive: This story has been in the news for a while. Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history. The intent of the program appeared to incite hatred against non-hispanic groups. The entire program presented history in a "actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner".

This improper program needed to be cancelled and clearly is inappropriate in a a public school environment. It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

Yeah, the whole "we stole it from them, screwed them over for decades and continue to do it to this very day" line of thought tends to get the Sun City crowd up in arms. They really hate reality.

You really should read previous articles about the "Mexican-American Studies program" that includes quotes of the content. It went well beyond the political and social history of Mexico and the U.S.; it was clearly a program aimed at incited hatred and resentment.

If I had taken this program's content and simply substituted the word "white" for "mexican" and "black" for everyone else - then it would be on par with some the KKK's worst hatred literature.

RexTalionis: How can you say that it is completely fabricated while also stating that one British General (I'm assuming you mean Amherst in 1763) did it?

Aren't most blankets fabricated?

/sorry

SundaesChild: It's not like public schools are more than warehouses to store children and teach them conformity anyway, we wouldn't want them to get an education and actually realize certain truths about the society in which they live.

Knowledge Is Power. NSFW.

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: gblive: It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

I wonder when the courts will intercede and mandate that the current history being taught to children in most schools has been whitewashed and cleaned up to favor the Europeans who settled America. History is written by the victors and all that. I'd like to think that we'd have fewer adults now who wrongly believe in American exceptionalism and infallibility had they been required to study some of the more unpleasant aspects of American foreign and domestic policy over the years.

History should be taught including the social and political aspects from all racial groups. It should present a truthful and balanced view; this means that it will include some painful truths about oppression, slavery, and other distateful events. All students should learn about this so we do not repeat it.

On the other hand creating a twisted history program for one particular racial group in a school that is solely designed to create hatred and resentment of other racial groups is not appropriate.

Why Yes I Am A Wizard: They should teach them what we did to the Native and African Americans as well.

At last then our mistreatment of them won't seem so bad.

"So what if we lied and stole your land. Hey, we never enslaved you and gave you diseases blankets or anything!"

Or it would encourage them solidarity and unity between them and encourage taking back a raw deal. You know, "community organizing" and similar forms of fascist socialist communist Islamic ninja Alinskyite Kenyanism.

hailin: Why separate the classes? Teach all the students the stupid things that happened in the past so we can try to move towards a better future. If you only teach the race that the atrocities happened to of COURSE they are going to be pissed and start resenting their white classmates.

Maybe we can avoid making the same mistakes in the future:

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/through_th e _looking_glass_christian_clergyman_calls_for_internment_cam

DarnoKonrad: I'd have to see the material in question, as there shouldn't be anything wrong with a class that teaches the ethnic and social history of the area.

How about doing some actual research then? The main material that was deemed questionable was Rodolfo Acuña's Occupied America and Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Brazilian educator Paolo Friere. Both are highly questionable and attack America as oppressing latinos.

The law in question states:

"Public school pupils should be taught to treat and value each other as individuals and not be taught to resent other races or classes of people"It prohibits courses that "promote the overthrow of the U.S. government; promote resentment toward a race or class of people; are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group; advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals"

The texts above explicitly violate the above statue.

Likewise, the fight actually started with Chicano Studies fighting to force TUSD to allow their classes to replace history credits required for graduation instead of making it an elective. The fight is well documented if you actually care to learn instead of just brushing it away.

gblive: rmoody: gblive: This story has been in the news for a while. Previous articles made it clear that the "Mexican-American Studies program" rewrote and created a less than truthful version history. The intent of the program appeared to incite hatred against non-hispanic groups. The entire program presented history in a "actively presenting material in a biased, political and emotionally charged manner".

This improper program needed to be cancelled and clearly is inappropriate in a a public school environment. It is one thing to teach all aspects of history; it is something different to twist history and use it to fan hatred.

Yeah, the whole "we stole it from them, screwed them over for decades and continue to do it to this very day" line of thought tends to get the Sun City crowd up in arms. They really hate reality.

You really should read previous articles about the "Mexican-American Studies program" that includes quotes of the content. It went well beyond the political and social history of Mexico and the U.S.; it was clearly a program aimed at incited hatred and resentment.

If I had taken this program's content and simply substituted the word "white" for "mexican" and "black" for everyone else - then it would be on par with some the KKK's worst hatred literature.

Yes, little Tommy Horne has had a hard-on for killing it since the 90's, but saying Republicans hates Mexicans is really just more of that pesky reality.