You'd think they'd have a couple donut spare tires in the luggage area.

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Niiice one subby. You win 1 free internet.

then 9 months later

SnakeMan: Charlie Freak: [Otto.jpg]

No biggie as long as they can get that runway reopened before the typical Sacramento pea-soup fog rolls in.

The fog's getting thicker!

Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

vodka: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

Or you know, it could have been some debris on the runway... it has happened before (new window).

Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

I was gonna mention the same thing. One tire is one thing, but multiple? Perhaps something on the runway? Say, a strip of aluminum from a Continental jet?

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vodka
Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?



Nowhere near the scene.

darch: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

I was gonna mention the same thing. One tire is one thing, but multiple? Perhaps something on the runway? Say, a strip of aluminum from a Continental jet?

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Great minds think alike...

Came for Otto, left satisfied.

/Not like that

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The scene after Julie Hagerty is smoking a cigarette and coyly staring at the automatic pilot after she "reinflates" him always cracks me up.
/would've loved to have been that auto pilot

i chuckled subby, I chuckled.

vodka: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

This does seem strange. As a pilot (not commercial), I can tell you that a visual inspection of the tires is a standard preflight check item. When you are waiting to board you can see the pilot on the ground doing his/her walk around. If there was anything visually wrong with the tires, then the pilot should have stopped the flight. Now keeping that in mind, also realize that if the plane does not fly the pilot does not get paid. Additionally the tires for a commercial airplane like the Boeing 737 pictured in the article are very expensive. I could see where they would want to get every last mile out of them.

I'm guessing there were 131 skid marks out there.

ham-operator: vodka: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

This does seem strange. As a pilot (not commercial), I can tell you that a visual inspection of the tires is a standard preflight check item. When you are waiting to board you can see the pilot on the ground doing his/her walk around. If there was anything visually wrong with the tires, then the pilot should have stopped the flight. Now keeping that in mind, also realize that if the plane does not fly the pilot does not get paid. Additionally the tires for a commercial airplane like the Boeing 737 pictured in the article are very expensive. I could see where they would want to get every last mile out of them.

Pilots will still get paid for the flight if there is a mechanical reason the plane cannot fly and the flight ends up being canceled, at least with United anyway, I guess I can't be too sure about Southwest. But I agree, if there was a visual problem, especially cording or some other defect, they should not have flown.

Then again, this is also a Southwest plane. I'm not sure if they still give pilots bonuses for arriving early, but they used to, and it was directly blamed for them taxiing too fast and causing a bunch of ground incidents

Trapper439: Oveur Macho Grande?

Then Howie survived?

The there was a bird strike to an engine on a SWA flight taking off from Sacramento. Things come in threes...

vodka: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

What I'm imagining is that the pilot first rejected the take off, then the tires blew, rather than the tires blowing then the pilot rejecting. Seems much more likely a scenario, seeing as though all of the tires deflated. Airliner tires have thermal plugs that will allow them to deflate in the event of overheating. Rejected take-offs are one of the reasons they have those plugs in them..lots of heat from the brakes when you reject.

Just my guess though.

FirstNationalBastard: They bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into.

I say, let 'em crash.

Surely this can't be serious.

buzzcut73: vodka: Multiple tires blew? As it was taking off (which is relatively low load compared to landing)... Something seems weird about this. Sabotage?

What I'm imagining is that the pilot first rejected the take off, then the tires blew, rather than the tires blowing then the pilot rejecting. Seems much more likely a scenario, seeing as though all of the tires deflated. Airliner tires have thermal plugs that will allow them to deflate in the event of overheating. Rejected take-offs are one of the reasons they have those plugs in them..lots of heat from the brakes when you reject.

Just my guess though.

First thought to my mind also. Hit a bit of FOD (debris) on the runway a bit before V1 and hit the brakes... Aircraft brakes get very hot, very fast. You don't use them like a car, people. *cough, cough* Regional Jet Pilots *cough cough* That's exactly why most of the stopping motion is supplied via two big steel buckets behind the engines.

/seen a Gulfstream G-II after an aborted takeoff as a kid.
//you could see through the wing
///and some epic skid marks 40' in the air on the T-tail
////and the biatch still flew home!

I was on a Southwest flight from San Francisco to Chicago that ended up diverting to Oakland shortly after taking off. The front-gear fire sensors tripped, and the crew indicated that the quick turn-around from landing to takeoff causes these things to happen with Southwest more than with other airlines for which they had worked.

Most annoying thing? We didn't get to use the slides. Still, that's the steepest/hardest turn I've ever felt in a commercial plane.

AIRPLANE THREAD!!!

I've only flown about 10 or 12 times in my life, and once had a TOGA on a Southwest plane at Midway. We were getting ready to land, real close to the ground, then the engines kicked in big time and we were out of there quickly. The pilot got on and said something about the runway not being ready for us.

Landing at Midway is such a rush anyway. That one was a little extra special!

Trapper439: Oveur Macho Grande?

You never get over Macho Grande.

/Ain't it swell, ain't it great!
/Gonna have the whole world on a plate.