F*ck Pelosi and all the plutocrats, left or right.

shivashakti: F*ck Pelosi and all the plutocrats, left or right.

This

Fox.

"News".

I support raising Nancy Pelosi's taxes, too.

Notabunny: Fox.

"News".

Actually, it's Fox Nation. It's just an editorial, that way they can spout whatever BS they want and if someone calls them out on it, they can disown it.

Pelosi is worse than Hitler!!!

mrshowrules: Wintermute6: DarwiOdrade: Sid_6.7: Let me guess:

It's only bad for Democrats to be rich and spend money. But Republicans can have $500,000 lines of credit at Tiffany's, and that's all cool.

It's bad because only Democrats claim to represent regular people, while Republicans claim to represent only the rich.

I'm not gay, yet I support gay rights. Was that wrong? Should I not do that?

Unless you are also gay, that makes you a hypocrite by Conservative logic. I believe in AGW/ACC but apparently I'm a hypocrite also because I use electricity.

I believe the conservative position for gays is to enter into a sham marriage with your beard and openly campaign against gay rights.

"The first family and their friends have been enjoying a reclusive 17-day holiday vacation"

Yeah, that reclusive Obama. Always hiding out in "buildings" with his "security." He has the audacity to call his security team "secret service." What is he hiding?!?! We have a right to know.

BravadoGT: DarwiOdrade: BravadoGT: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x317]

It's funny because there's more wagon's in your fantasy than "apologist" posts in the "flood".

It's still quite early...

Why are you participating in class warfare? Sounds like you're jealous of her success.

You know what? I don't care if she, or any other representative for that matter, spends a million dollars per night in a suite, as long as that money was honestly earned, and as long as they advocate for working people in their public careers.

The point Republican voters seem to miss is that the OWS movement (because, let's face it, that's the subtext here) is not opposed to people having a whole lot of money or spending that money in a not-so-thrifty way. It's about the horrendously disproportionate overall distribution of wealth in our society. You have a million trillion brazillion bucks? Awesome. Good for you. Are you hoarding that million trillion brazillion bucks while millions of other people go without basic services, like healthcare? No? Then super.

Yes? Then we have a problem.

BravadoGT: And the flood of apologists for Democrat displays of obscene wealth begins...

Um.

So your argument is:

1) Democratic politicians hand people money to get elected.
2) Democratic politicians then inject their money back into the economy, but this is not good because they stole it from Republican voters.
3) Somehow, this is all a plantation and Lincoln was a Conservative.

I'm just trying to get my facts straight. Please enlighten me.

The Name: You know what? I don't care if she, or any other representative for that matter, spends a million dollars per night in a suite, as long as that money was honestly earned, and as long as they advocate for working people in their public careers.

Dingdingding.

If anything, you get double points for promoting policies that (at least to the short-sighted) will cost you money.

The Name: You know what? I don't care if she, or any other representative for that matter, spends a million dollars per night in a suite, as long as that money was honestly earned, and as long as they advocate for working people in their public careers.

The point Republican voters seem to miss is that the OWS movement (because, let's face it, that's the subtext here) is not opposed to people having a whole lot of money or spending that money in a not-so-thrifty way. It's about the horrendously disproportionate overall distribution of wealth in our society. You have a million trillion brazillion bucks? Awesome. Good for you. Are you hoarding that million trillion brazillion bucks while millions of other people go without basic services, like healthcare? No? Then super.

Yes? Then we have a problem.

I just "smarted" you with the new feature. FYI.

BullBearMS: shivashakti: F*ck Pelosi and all the plutocrats, left or right.

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Why is that a surprise? Good businesspeople make good leaders. Would you really vote some poor schlub into Congress?

T-Luv: "The first family and their friends have been enjoying a reclusive 17-day holiday vacation"

Yeah, that reclusive Obama. Always hiding out in "buildings" with his "security." He has the audacity to call his security team "secret service." What is he hiding?!?! We have a right to know.

Obama himself has been there less than a week.

By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, December 27, 6:24 PM (new window)

The Obamas arrived at Hanauma Bay on Tuesday

The president has stayed largely out of the spotlight since arriving Friday evening in Hawaii, the state where he was born and mostly raised. He spent a low-key holiday with his family, attended Christmas church services and visited service members stationed at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, near Honolulu.

What in holy hell is wrong with these people? How can they have so much hate for the Obamas? I mean, politics aside, they always seem like genuine, caring, friendly, down-to-earth people. Jesus christ, this kind of hate will destroy a person.

As long as she's not using her fortune to subvert democracy, I could care less what she spends money on Subby. It's not the rich, it's what they do to politics. If the only thing the rich did was buy expensive hotel rooms there wouldn't be an farking problem.

Well it's on Fox, so I'm sure the numbers are accurate and not completely made up.

Car_Ramrod: T-Luv: "The first family and their friends have been enjoying a reclusive 17-day holiday vacation"

Yeah, that reclusive Obama. Always hiding out in "buildings" with his "security." He has the audacity to call his security team "secret service." What is he hiding?!?! We have a right to know.

Obama himself has been there less than a week.

By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, December 27, 6:24 PM (new window)

The Obamas arrived at Hanauma Bay on Tuesday

The president has stayed largely out of the spotlight since arriving Friday evening in Hawaii, the state where he was born and mostly raised. He spent a low-key holiday with his family, attended Christmas church services and visited service members stationed at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, near Honolulu.

What in holy hell is wrong with these people? How can they have so much hate for the Obamas? I mean, politics aside, they always seem like genuine, caring, friendly, down-to-earth people. Jesus christ, this kind of hate will destroy a person.

No, he's totally being reclusive. Just look how reclusive he's being. (new window)

You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

T-Luv: Car_Ramrod: T-Luv: "The first family and their friends have been enjoying a reclusive 17-day holiday vacation"

Yeah, that reclusive Obama. Always hiding out in "buildings" with his "security." He has the audacity to call his security team "secret service." What is he hiding?!?! We have a right to know.

Obama himself has been there less than a week.

By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, December 27, 6:24 PM (new window)

The Obamas arrived at Hanauma Bay on Tuesday

The president has stayed largely out of the spotlight since arriving Friday evening in Hawaii, the state where he was born and mostly raised. He spent a low-key holiday with his family, attended Christmas church services and visited service members stationed at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, near Honolulu.

What in holy hell is wrong with these people? How can they have so much hate for the Obamas? I mean, politics aside, they always seem like genuine, caring, friendly, down-to-earth people. Jesus christ, this kind of hate will destroy a person.

No, he's totally being reclusive. Just look how reclusive he's being. (new window)

My favorite part of that picture is that kid will be able to say one day, "You know, I punched a president once. I have photographic proof."

That would be awesome.

Make More Hinjews: You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

Sure. It's pernicious bullshiat and it's a line the rightists have been pushing for years.

Make More Hinjews: You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

If you're rich, you're a hypocrite. If you're poor, you're being selfish. The goal of making no one able to champion the poor is the most dickish move ever.

A Dark Evil Omen: Make More Hinjews: You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

Sure. It's pernicious bullshiat and it's a line the rightists have been pushing for years.


Amen, but I think I left something out. (I forget sometimes y'all aren't in my head.) ;) I used to be a political organizer.

THIS KIND OF THINKING ACTUALLY STOPS PEOPLE FROM HELPING THEMSELVES. It's called "The Perfect Standard." I've seen it in action.

It's evil.

Car_Ramrod: If you're rich, you're a hypocrite. If you're poor, you're being selfish. The goal of making no one able to champion the poor is the most dickish move ever.

Exactly.

Make More Hinjews: A Dark Evil Omen: Make More Hinjews: You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

Sure. It's pernicious bullshiat and it's a line the rightists have been pushing for years.


Amen, but I think I left something out. (I forget sometimes y'all aren't in my head.) ;) I used to be a political organizer.

THIS KIND OF THINKING ACTUALLY STOPS PEOPLE FROM HELPING THEMSELVES. It's called "The Perfect Standard." I've seen it in action.

It's evil.

Yep. :)

I've been working with Occupy Seattle, I've run into this argument before, from the other end. "We don't need their help! They're part of the problem!" No, they're helping us out. Don't be an idiot.

A Dark Evil Omen: Make More Hinjews: You guys understand this reasoning is not just idiotic, it's insanely sinister, right?

If you can get rich, you can't help poor people.

Also, if you're poor, you can't get rich and then advocate for poor peoples' interests.

It's the most farked-up reasoning imaginable. I don't just pity Subby's intellect, I hate him. He's a bad person.

Sure. It's pernicious bullshiat and it's a line the rightists have been pushing for years.

ahh, another one of those things that "rightists" have allegedly been "pushing for years" that you made up.

If you're rich, please, help poor people. Give all that you can. Stay in the cheaper rooms and maybe put a homeless family up for the weekend with the excess you save. Don't "advocate" for the poor when you're engaging in over the top consumption with many poor people right under your nose. You deserve to be mocked for that - even if the good lil pack mules will come a-runnin' to carry your water.

Car_Ramrod: If you're rich, you're a hypocrite. If you're poor, you're being selfish. The goal of making no one able to champion the poor is the most dickish move ever.

Sure is. But I don't think it will work. I think most poor people would sympathize with the statement I made above about individual wealth vs. overall proportion of wealth. The poor people who would disagree are just dyed-in-the-wool Teabagger types anyway.