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2011-12-27 06:48:53 PM
Sounds like a wise plan. It would be very interesting to track the success of this company.
 
2011-12-27 06:50:35 PM
i wonder if people will actually start working more or longer hours because they feel guilty about taking time off.
 
2011-12-27 06:57:46 PM
seems almost too rational. and that whole as-long-as-your-work-is-getting-done policy is clearly unamerican.
 
2011-12-27 06:59:21 PM
oi_piss_me_off: i wonder if people will actually start working more or longer hours because they feel guilty about taking time off.

I suspect the latter. And that's BEFORE the company introduces the new crazy sales number requirements and ups the project count.

All they have to do is float the merest IDEA of potential layoffs, and you'll see people all scrambling to try not to be the guy at the bottom, so forsaking all the time off. When you have a known number of days, it feels safe taking it (and if you don't make a certain sales number, well, your official work requirement time was only a certain length, so so be it) but with no set number of days? Means your number of days can be zero.

(1) Get all the little people competing amongst themselves
(2) Sit back
(3) Profit
 
2011-12-27 07:00:22 PM
"We have to make sure employees don't look at this as a head game where we're trying to keep them from taking any time off at all," she said.

That's the problem. If people think they're being judged on the amount of PTO they take, the more competitive may take little to none.
 
2011-12-27 07:00:47 PM
For the record, I'd feel better about schemes like this if they FIRST guarantee the usual number of vacation days like they always do, and only THEN on top of it say "and also you can take time off over and above that if you want, or leave early and not count it as vacation time" or whatever.

But there needs to be some minimum number of days off guaranteed.
 
2011-12-27 07:11:43 PM
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2011-12-27 07:58:35 PM
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2011-12-27 08:23:22 PM
Ed Finnerty: [images.wikia.com image 371x511]

Yeah, if only there was a way they could support local industries that basically requires a bottomless pit of free-time to enjoy.
 
2011-12-27 09:51:00 PM
A Fark Handle: seems almost too rational. and that whole as-long-as-your-work-is-getting-done policy is clearly unamerican.

I'm a grad student and this is how we work. Won't say I'll make a ton, but when I have X amount of work to be done in a certain number of days no one cares when I do it so long as it gets done, and I show up at work proper when I want save a few meetings.

But then I also live in Holland where I theoretically get six weeks off but everyone takes off more, so unamerican indeed.
 
KIA
2011-12-27 10:17:00 PM
Fortunately, I do not own WeddingWire stock nor do I intend to do so anytime soon.

And, by the way, how the heck does WeddingWire have 98 employees and senior sales managers? Don't people need just one neck-sized wire after they get married?
 
2011-12-27 10:19:13 PM
I used to have unlimited time off, then I took an arrow in the knee.

/someone had to
 
2011-12-27 10:20:56 PM
Bethesda

Well, we know it's not the bug testers, since they didn't have any to begin with.

/oblivion killed my fat PS3
 
2011-12-27 10:21:41 PM
I used to meet sales forecast at Wedding Wire until I took an arrow to the knee
 
2011-12-27 10:21:50 PM
Aren't most small startup companies like this? I worked at a startup a couple years ago where we never tracked vacation at all. If you needed time off, you got it. We had a a small team, so it was pretty easy to tell if someone was slacking off.
 
2011-12-27 10:22:16 PM
TheZorker: I used to have unlimited time off, then I took an arrow in the knee.

/someone had to


FUFUFUFUFUUFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2011-12-27 10:22:28 PM
I just got laid off this morning, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2011-12-27 10:23:50 PM
Too many employees, maybe? Not enough work?
 
2011-12-27 10:28:37 PM
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2011-12-27 10:28:51 PM
This is why we can't have bug-free games!
 
2011-12-27 10:34:36 PM
RookStar: This is why we can't have bug-free games!

was coming here for the skyrim quips
 
2011-12-27 10:42:59 PM
Seems like it would work well.
In my experience, people who do work they like can't leave it alone and feel the urge to do it and the time spent doing work usually doesn't measure quality very well.
So you'll get the best who can do their shiat in a short amount of time and want to be there, a safety net for unlucky or unexpected situations for the average worker, and you can fire the ones who abuse it and might as well be retired.
 
2011-12-27 10:43:49 PM
oi_piss_me_off: i wonder if people will actually start working more or longer hours because they feel guilty about taking time off.

Or if they'll do so because it'll ensure more time off. Slick move by the company.
 
2011-12-27 10:49:51 PM
This has been my companies policy for years for salaried managers. It works great for both the employer and employee. The company asks its managers to be flexible in their time working retail hours and some weekends, but in turn the company is good to the employee for their flexibility. In my 6 years with this company, I have yet to find somebody who has abused this policy. On average, most people take about 3-4 weeks worth of vacation time per year, typically split into a lot of 3 days off here, 4 days off there, etc....
 
2011-12-27 10:51:28 PM
I wonder if they use draw plus commission.
 
2011-12-27 10:53:03 PM
I just had a job interview at a large university that gives 6 months of sick time a year. I thought this had to be some kind of typo but it wasn't. They don't put much of a limit on sick time, if you're sick for a long time then you're just sick. Seems too easy to take advantage of to me but was a great place to work, everyone seemed very relaxed and satisfied with their jobs. I'm hoping I get it.
 
2011-12-27 10:56:48 PM
I think this would be great for their high-intensity salespeople -- they can make a ton of sales in the first two or three weeks of the month, then take a week-long vacation to recharge, and hit the phones / pavement again (or however they do their sales) come the next month. Prevents burnout.
 
2011-12-27 10:57:04 PM
I used to work for a company that provided unlimited sick time (but standard vacation). As far as I know, nobody abused it. Or if they did, they weren't kept around for long.
 
2011-12-27 10:57:28 PM
Why not, I mean. If your job does not require to work a certain schedule due to customer demands then why not? I get so many remote users calling in for VPN access and all they really care about is getting to their email. You do not need the VPN for that, just an RSA token.
 
2011-12-27 11:01:27 PM
Ed Finnerty:

That's exactly where my mind went when I saw "Bethesda."
 
2011-12-27 11:05:30 PM
meatofmystery: RookStar: This is why we can't have bug-free games!

was coming here for the skyrim quips



STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

/oh, we were talking about Skyrim Oblivion 2?
 
2011-12-27 11:08:14 PM
OgreMagi: I used to work for a company that provided unlimited sick time (but standard vacation). As far as I know, nobody abused it. Or if they did, they weren't kept around for long.

So did I. There was one woman who abused and did it so badly that they changed the policy. It was said she missed somewhere in the neighborhood of 110 - 120 days one year.
 
2011-12-27 11:14:07 PM
www.411mania.com

You're right, there's no maximum amount of vacation time. Some people are happy with just putting in the minimum amount of work at the office and taking a lot of vacations. It's up to you to determine how much is appropriate.
 
2011-12-27 11:14:21 PM
Make this work in a call centre, you will rule the world.
 
2011-12-27 11:17:22 PM
mrtimo: Make this work in a call centre, you will rule the world.

I love you for posting this. By the way, I work helpdesk...Can you help me rename my .OST file in outlook?
 
2011-12-27 11:20:48 PM
Makes sense for project oriented work. Getting to take an extra day is a great way to get projects done faster without having to shell out extra cash or crush moral by running the business like a sweat shop.

I've done this for years, if you get the work set aside for you done by Thursday, then I don't want to see you on Friday. People will stay more focused while at work and put in extra hours. If some team members slack off or try to abuse the situation, the other team members feel the extra load, which then prevent's them from getting the extra day off, so they either shame the lazy guy into working, or biatch about it to the point management realizes the problem and shiatcans the lazy turd.
 
2011-12-27 11:26:55 PM
I work virtually and salaried for a midsized company. Have for 7 years. Am not micromanaged in any way. We have agreed set pto but NO ONE monitors it for management. I take long weekends here and there but they are getting the better bargain. Have never once hit my official PTO allotment and am always tethered unless out of range in the boonies. (Usually in boonies during PTO ) We also work in teams and coordinate our PTO with our partners to cover for us.

I go way above and beyond my pay grade.
 
2011-12-27 11:29:36 PM
Ed Finnerty: [images.wikia.com image 371x511]


WINNER!!!
 
2011-12-27 11:30:11 PM
ongbok: OgreMagi: I used to work for a company that provided unlimited sick time (but standard vacation). As far as I know, nobody abused it. Or if they did, they weren't kept around for long.

So did I. There was one woman who abused and did it so badly that they changed the policy. It was said she missed somewhere in the neighborhood of 110 - 120 days one year.


At my old job we could take personal leave during work hours if we submitted a written request. It was a nice way to go and knock out some errands, I used to do it once a week or so. They didn't put any specific limit on how often you could do this. Of course one girl abused it by requesting leave every day. Basically whenever she didn't specifically have to be at work for a meeting or something she would request leave. So of course they had to change the policy because of her. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us.
 
2011-12-27 11:38:40 PM
"If you've met your sales goal by the middle of the month, I have no place as a manager to keep you from taking the rest of the month off," he said.

I like this. Did this with a data entry temp job I was assigned to. Asked the 'on-site' boss if, given that we were assigned quotas, if I met quota early could I just take off early? Similarly, since I was temp and they were open 24/7, if I wanted an evening off could I come in 3rd shift? He didn't have a problem with it, so I used to have mad 3.5-day work weeks.
 
2011-12-27 11:46:41 PM
My company is like this, too. AWESOME.

It's way better than the joint that required me to be on-site 18 hours a day, seven days a week, for six months ... but I had to put in a request ahead of time for no more than two weeks' worth of time off per year. It's Saturday, may I spend my officially accrued time off to spend with my family, laundry and whatever else I care to? ... NO.
 
2011-12-27 11:47:10 PM
For a second I thought they were shutting down Bethesda Studios. My response was "so they make a great-selling game & shut down the company?" for it has happened before.
 
2011-12-27 11:49:07 PM
StopLurkListen: My company is like this, too. AWESOME.

It's way better than the joint that required me to be on-site 18 hours a day, seven days a week, for six months ... but I had to put in a request ahead of time for no more than two weeks' worth of time off per year. It's Saturday, may I spend my officially accrued time off to spend with my family, laundry and whatever else I care to? ... NO.


P.S. "Suck job" had measurable tasks, and even if you made them, you were required to stay and get even more done, to show just how much you could get done. Doing the required amount was "doing the minimum" and would reflect poorly on your annual review

I lawyered up. Lawyer said: "You're salaried, you're farked."

I quit.
 
2011-12-27 11:54:16 PM
40 hours a week: proven by Henry Ford, (new window) and not because he was some pinko lieberul pro-Commie.

40 hours. IT WORKS, biatchES.
 
2011-12-27 11:55:58 PM
If the company lets employees take whatever time off they want, then they are not issuing vacation days/hours as the year progresses. So, if you are an employee that rarely takes time off, but would rather sell back the accumulated time, I guess you're SOL.
 
2011-12-28 12:02:19 AM
AlinaJoan: itsatrap.jpg

Every comment by every American farker who's held a Real Job (tm) in their life -- and is a little leery of this --- distilled to the essence.
 
2011-12-28 12:05:00 AM
StopLurkListen: 40 hours a week: proven by Henry Ford, (new window) and not because he was some pinko lieberul pro-Commie.

40 hours. IT WORKS, biatchES.


People also like to believe that he invented the production line, when he did not. He really did not even perfect it. He was kind of in the same boat as Edison and the light bulb.
 
2011-12-28 12:10:13 AM
StopLurkListen: Doing the required amount was "doing the minimum" and would reflect poorly on your annual review

There is so, so, so much more that can be said about this. I can see it now, though, the same folks who would sympathize with you because you were salaried doing it (meaning that you weren't working a McJob)..................... those same folks would sneer at folks at the poverty level balking at trying to meet impossible quotas and then being evaluated poorly when meeting those quotas. When you're broke, you're never bootstrappy enough, I guess.

Too many companies operating on too many failed ideas on what it means to be productive, just because 'that's the way it's always been done'.

/glad you got out for your sanity
 
2011-12-28 01:23:56 AM
kanewil: This has been my companies policy for years for salaried managers. It works great for both the employer and employee. The company asks its managers to be flexible in their time working retail hours and some weekends, but in turn the company is good to the employee for their flexibility. In my 6 years with this company, I have yet to find somebody who has abused this policy. On average, most people take about 3-4 weeks worth of vacation time per year, typically split into a lot of 3 days off here, 4 days off there, etc....

But is that really 'good'?

I have 5 weeks vacation (23 years with the Company), [plus sick days].. We are required to plan a head our Vacation in January, BUT I personally take one month off in the summer... I prefer that to a couple days here or there whenever time and the job permits.

Summer is always a big time, and we know that - SO the company hires some summer students and some part times (usually retired former workers) to help carry the load so that people CAN have an extended time off.

Of course, here on Fark, I'm a dirty socialist parasite.... (Union - We're allowed 18% staff off at one time - Highest vacation entitlement is 6 weeks (28 years+) - Vacation list circulates by Senority - You make your first choice (no more than 4 weeks in a row), then it goes through everyone, comes back around for 2nd, 3rd, 4th choices etc.. What happens? Many high seniority people choose Xmas as first choice - which opens up summer dates for lower seniority people for their first choice.. Usually once the list has gone through everyone once, prime summer date are taken - If you took 2 weeks at Xmas as your first choice, you are not getting time in August no matter what your seniority is. - SO you make a choice - what's important to ME...Xmas or Summer? I choose summer! Some choose Xmas, some choose a couple weeks spring, couple weeks summer... Not many break it up into a few days here or there)
 
2011-12-28 01:34:00 AM
Most companies offer unlimited time off, it's called being fired. On abusing sick leave, we had an employee take so much sick leave he has to get a doctors note if he even takes off for a cold. My workplace is pretty good for time off, 12 vacation days, 1 personal day, and 12 holidays, so basically a month off a year.
 
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