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(Bleacher Report) Obvious Why Eagles' recent victories have made Andy Reid look slightly less incompetent   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 52
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2011-12-27 03:37:27 PM
...timeout?
 
2011-12-27 03:38:11 PM
Is it just me or about 50% of those actually reasons Reid should go?
 
2011-12-27 03:45:10 PM
Pratty: Is it just me or about 50% of those actually reasons Reid should go?

It's not just you.

Anyway, considering how people were talking about them, this season was a tremendous failure for the Eagles.
 
2011-12-27 03:47:36 PM
Despite their incredibly disappointing season, the Eagles will probably be considered favorites to win the NFC East in 2012. The core of the team is there, and the Eagles are as talented as any team in the league.

In your dreams.
 
2011-12-27 03:48:16 PM
Lovie Smith just threw his challenge flag.
 
2011-12-27 03:49:03 PM
Pratty: Is it just me or about 50% of those actually reasons Reid should go?

I like the one about Vick. Andy Reid made the organization waste tens of millions of dollars on Vick and a new coach might want a better QB who wouldn't miss games due to injury. Yeah, that's a great reason to keep Reid.
 
2011-12-27 03:50:14 PM
Despite Reid's obvious faults, shouldn't the fans and media be placing more blame on the players?
 
2011-12-27 03:51:03 PM
False
 
2011-12-27 03:53:03 PM
He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

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2011-12-27 03:53:25 PM
Let's see:

1. Andy Reid has proven himself to be a winner over his 13 years as head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Irrelevant. This will be 3 years in a row without a playoff win

2. Maybe the team will get worse

Irrelevant. Maybe the team will get better

3. He hired good position coaches

One of which clashed with the defensive coordinator and caused them to have a disjointed defense for most of the year

4. Reid signed Vick to a big deal

And that was a bad move

5. They got good at the end

Which shows how many bad moves Reid made to begin the year with regard to personel and coaching

6. This is a win-now team

And they didn't win



Soo.. good job?
 
2011-12-27 03:53:49 PM
UNC_Samurai: Despite Reid's obvious faults, shouldn't the fans and media be placing more blame on the players?

Gasp,

And maybe hurt the feelings of the million dollar snowflakes.
 
2011-12-27 03:55:02 PM
UNC_Samurai: Despite Reid's obvious faults, shouldn't the fans and media be placing more blame on the players?

Which ones in particular? You can't blame Vick... he's done exactly what he has always done. Desean Jackson is the same receiver as he was last year, still immature but talented. McCoy has been fantastic as usual. The defense has the same holes we all pointed out when the year began, but everyone thought they'd play over their weaknesses. Even the new acquisition Nnamdi has been doing what he is supposed to but you can't make him cover people for 30 seconds.
 
2011-12-27 03:57:22 PM
bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.


And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.
 
2011-12-27 04:04:44 PM
Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.


And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.
 
2011-12-27 04:26:44 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.


Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?
 
2011-12-27 04:34:24 PM
Why do the Eagles garner so much attention when we're not even making the playoffs?

I'm pretty sure there are 31 other teams.


/i know, cuz of dog killer and the need of page views
 
2011-12-27 04:36:50 PM
GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?


Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?
 
2011-12-27 04:41:55 PM
Rwa2play: GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?

Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?


Or would i like to find out just how bad Donovan mcNabb's career could have been without Andy Reid? /how'd that Washington and Minnesota thing work out for Donovan?
 
2011-12-27 04:42:36 PM
Uh huh.. he just beat the Cowboys in December. Not exactly a huge accomplishment
 
2011-12-27 04:44:44 PM
Peter von Nostrand: Uh huh.. he just beat the Cowboys in December. Not exactly a huge accomplishment
 
2011-12-27 04:45:56 PM
GacysBasement: Rwa2play: GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?

Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?

Or would i like to find out just how bad Donovan mcNabb's career could have been without Andy Reid? /how'd that Washington and Minnesota thing work out for Donovan?


Wow, complete strawman there genius.

How about the following: How would Andy Reid's career would have fared without Donovan McNabb?

Answer: See Marty Mornhinweg during his Detroit Lions tenure.
 
2011-12-27 04:46:27 PM
GacysBasement: Peter von Nostrand: Uh huh.. he just beat the Cowboys in December Jerry Jones. Not exactly a huge accomplishment
 
2011-12-27 04:52:00 PM
Rwa2play: GacysBasement: Rwa2play: GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?

Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?

Or would i like to find out just how bad Donovan mcNabb's career could have been without Andy Reid? /how'd that Washington and Minnesota thing work out for Donovan?

Wow, complete strawman there genius.

How about the following: How would Andy Reid's career would have fared without Donovan McNabb?

Answer: See Marty Mornhinweg during his Detroit Lions tenure.



Jeez i thought Jimmy Johnson's defense, Duce Staley then Brian Westbrook, a stellar offense line and the franchises best kicker for over a decade had something to do with Reid's success. Not to mention all the assistant coaches that went on to head coaching jobs as well after working for Reid. Silly me.
 
2011-12-27 04:56:24 PM
GacysBasement: Rwa2play: GacysBasement: Rwa2play: GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?

Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?

Or would i like to find out just how bad Donovan mcNabb's career could have been without Andy Reid? /how'd that Washington and Minnesota thing work out for Donovan?

Wow, complete strawman there genius.

How about the following: How would Andy Reid's career would have fared without Donovan McNabb?

Answer: See Marty Mornhinweg during his Detroit Lions tenure.


Jeez i thought Jimmy Johnson's defense, Duce Staley then Brian Westbrook, a stellar offense line and the franchises best kicker for over a decade had something to do with Reid's success. Not to mention all the assistant coaches that went on to head coaching jobs as well after working for Reid. Silly me.


Yeah, how did Buddy Ryan's D and Randall Cunningham work out for the Eagles' trophy case?

Basically it's repeat of history, with Reid taking Buddy's place; but with the same result: No Lombardi Trophy for the Eagles' trophy case.
 
2011-12-27 05:04:03 PM
One reason we sucked the first couple of weeks: Juan CastiLOLo

We snapped out of it but it was too late, at least the offseason will have everyone snap out of stupidity
 
2011-12-27 05:08:46 PM
Donovan McNabb sucks huge donkey balls.
 
2011-12-27 05:15:03 PM
eddievercetti: One reason we sucked the first couple of weeks: Juan CastiLOLo

We snapped out of it but it was too late, at least the offseason will have everyone snap out of stupidity.


What is this we you write about. Unless you're a player, a coach or you have a gerbil in your pocket, the use of the word we is inadvisable. Of course that doesn't necessarily preclude you sucking earlier this year.
 
2011-12-27 05:17:24 PM
The Eagles are a sub .500 team. Who gives a shiat?
 
2011-12-27 05:39:49 PM
Rwa2play: Yeah, how did Buddy- -Ryan's D and Randall Cunningham work out for the Eagles' trophy case?

Basically it's repeat of history, with Reid taking Buddy's place; but with the same result: No Lombardi Trophy for the Eagles' trophy case.


What you don't seem to understand is that two running backs - one who was mediocre at best and another who never played a full 16-game season and was often broken in the playoffs - and a kicker were more influential on the Eagles being a high-quality team than the quarterback who had to throw the ball 2 out of every 3 plays to WRs who couldn't make any other NFL roster. But the kicker is why those teams were great.
 
2011-12-27 05:40:19 PM
bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.


Andy Reid's post Jim Johnson record:

2009 11-5
2010 10-6
2011 7-8

Total 28-19, 0 division titles and 0 playoff wins. I think it's obvious who the real talent was.
 
2011-12-27 05:42:44 PM
Sorry, I was wrong, 1 division title but lost in the wild card.
 
2011-12-27 05:43:54 PM
MAYORBOB: eddievercetti: One reason we sucked the first couple of weeks: Juan CastiLOLo

We snapped out of it but it was too late, at least the offseason will have everyone snap out of stupidity.

What is this we you write about. Unless you're a player, a coach or you have a gerbil in your pocket, the use of the word we is inadvisable. Of course that doesn't necessarily preclude you sucking earlier this year.


Well, he has a gerbil, but it's not in his pocket....
 
2011-12-27 05:47:12 PM
So the Eagles beat Mark Sanchez, Steve McGee, some Dolphins qb, and some other crap team and it makes Andy Reid look less incompetent.

Who's great idea was it to promote an offensive line coach to defensive coordinator with THOSE players?

The front office stated on record that this team was built to go to a Super Bowl. Obviously, that's not happening, but its ok because Andy Reid will still keep his job.

/we'll get em next year!
 
2011-12-27 05:54:59 PM
Dream Team Sandwich
 
2011-12-27 05:55:02 PM
GacysBasement: Rwa2play: GacysBasement: AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: bronyaur1: He is .607 lifetime as a head coach, with 7 divisional titles in 13 years, 44 games over 500 at 125-81-1.

Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

And Marty Schottenheimer is .613. But nobody likes him.

/And Norv Turner has an over-.500 record in San Diego with no losing seasons.
//Reid doesn't know what a run is.

And the biggest difference between Andy Reid and those other coaches is three factors: Ray Rhodes' defensive personnel, Jim Johnson's scheming, and Donovan McNabb.

Donovan Mcnabb...wait, what?

Yes, Donovan McNabb. Or would you like to find out how good those teams REALLY were without him?

Or would i like to find out just how bad Donovan mcNabb's career could have been without Andy Reid? /how'd that Washington and Minnesota thing work out for Donovan?


You mean when he was coming off his worst year in Philly, over 30(32 or 33, I forget) and as a scrambling QB has taken more hits than usual?
 
2011-12-27 06:00:51 PM
GacysBasement:
Jeez i thought Jimmy Johnson's defense, Duce Staley then Brian Westbrook, a stellar offense line and the franchises best kicker for over a decade had something to do with Reid's success. Not to mention all the assistant coaches that went on to head coaching jobs as well after working for Reid. Silly me.


...what? A RB who had 3 solid, not spectacular, seasons in 7 years with a team? McNabb was very good for the Eagles. Pointing out how badly he sucked with the Redskins and Vikings, neither of whom have exactly been great offensively lately regardless of the quarterback, is made even more ridiculous by the fact that McNabb was 34 & 35 years old for those franchises, respectively. Andy Reid would make a stellar offensive coordinator, but he really should not be allowed to have authority involving: a) timeouts, b) the challenge flag, c) total control of the pass:run breakdown, d) hiring other coaches, or e) personnel decisions regarding the defense.
 
2011-12-27 06:06:14 PM
Peter von Nostrand: Uh huh.. he just beat the Cowboys in December. Not exactly a huge accomplishment

It certainly helps when you play your division rival when you A) just got off your bye and B) send your opponent's QB out on his first possession because he whacked his hand on a helmet.
 
2011-12-27 06:40:11 PM
bronyaur1: Philly fans need to be considerably less stupid.

Or else what?
 
2011-12-27 07:16:59 PM
4th and 1!!! Woohoooo....iggles stopped Dallas twice! That means something, don't it? My only gratification this year will be Philly not being in the playoffs as I suspect a divide by zero moment will occur this Sunday night in NY. But seeing Philly gripe and snipe and infight is amusing anwyay. If you listen to the Ticket, catch Georgio and Gordons Touchdown Brothers in Philly sometime. You'll crap your pants laughing.
 
2011-12-27 07:41:58 PM
Asa Giants fan I appreciate the fact the the Eagles suck through the middle part of the season and then late in the year win just enough games to keep Andy Reid employed...because, ya know...they are finally starting to get it together and next year is their year.
 
2011-12-27 07:53:45 PM
Droog8912: McNabb was 34 & 35 years old for those franchises, respectively.

Not that old for a QB, BTW.

Banacek: Andy Reid's post Jim Johnson record:

2009 11-5
2010 10-6
2011 7-8

Total 28-19, 0 division titles and 0 playoff wins. I think it's obvious who the real talent was.


While I like Jim Johnson, that's a .596 win percentage. Not terrible. Oh, and last year they lost in the first round...to the eventual SB champs (and played the best game against them of any of their playoff opponents).

/damn, New Orleans and Green Bay were the wildcards last year. I mean, Seattle had a great game to dispatch the Saints, but ouch those are some tough wild cards.
 
2011-12-27 07:58:44 PM
AKTurkey: Donovan McNabb sucks huge donkey balls.

Fark is no place for your fan fic.
 
2011-12-27 08:01:38 PM
IAmRight: Droog8912: McNabb was 34 & 35 years old for those franchises, respectively.

Not that old for a QB, BTW.


Um, yeah, it is? Especially for a QB who had one of his assets being legs?
 
2011-12-27 08:10:04 PM
IAmRight: While I like Jim Johnson, that's a .596 win percentage. Not terrible. Oh, and last year they lost in the first round...to the eventual SB champs (and played the best game against them of any of their playoff opponents).

It does show a steady regression, though. Not to mention how far back the defensive talent has come since 2008, the Eagles need at least 5 new starters on that side of the ball and they have no more identity on either side of the ball, but especially on defense. And who cares that they gave Green Bay a game? It's one game and the better team won, even if that better team was the eventual Super Bowl champion and the losing team was a fraud.
 
2011-12-27 08:16:33 PM
AdmirableSnackbar: And who cares that they gave Green Bay a game? It's one game and the better team won, even if that better team was the eventual Super Bowl champion and the losing team was a fraud.

My point is that every team that played the Packers lost in the playoffs, so to say they lost in the first round to them...big whoop. Like if they'd beaten the Seahawks to make it to the next round to lose to the Packers it would've meant they had a better season.

AdmirableSnackbar: It does show a steady regression, though. Not to mention how far back the defensive talent has come since 2008, the Eagles need at least 5 new starters on that side of the ball and they have no more identity on either side of the ball, but especially on defense

So get a good defensive coordinator.
 
2011-12-27 08:25:36 PM
IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: It does show a steady regression, though. Not to mention how far back the defensive talent has come since 2008, the Eagles need at least 5 new starters on that side of the ball and they have no more identity on either side of the ball, but especially on defense

So get a good defensive coordinator.


But the offense isn't great either, if anything since he lost his franchise QB he has gone downhill, plus he is the GM, which is why they need all those players...and he hasn't done a good GMing jorb in the past, IMO(See: McNabb and not-recievers).

And his playcalling isn't great either, abandons the run very quickly.

So if he isn't a good GM, if he doesn't call plays well, doesn't manage the clock, doesn't challenge well, doesn't do defense...why is he HC again?
 
2011-12-27 08:39:42 PM
Pratty: IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: It does show a steady regression, though. Not to mention how far back the defensive talent has come since 2008, the Eagles need at least 5 new starters on that side of the ball and they have no more identity on either side of the ball, but especially on defense

So get a good defensive coordinator.

But the offense isn't great either, if anything since he lost his franchise QB he has gone downhill, plus he is the GM, which is why they need all those players...and he hasn't done a good GMing jorb in the past, IMO(See: McNabb and not-recievers).

And his playcalling isn't great either, abandons the run very quickly.

So if he isn't a good GM, if he doesn't call plays well, doesn't manage the clock, doesn't challenge well, doesn't do defense...why is he HC again?


He has pictures of somebody blowing a goat.
 
2011-12-27 09:52:26 PM
Are you kidding? His clock management is highly entertaining. Eagles games are always a peck of fun! I'm a Seahawks fan, I recognize trolling when I see it.
 
2011-12-27 10:58:30 PM
Coaches don't play.

Ownership has affirmative actioned the quarterback position,.

Reid hasn't failed to notice this folly, so fans get more of the same old shiat.

Another gangsta franchise
 
2011-12-28 09:28:51 AM
Your blog still sucks, Bleacher Report. As well as your judgment.

Now go back to complaint about John Cena.
 
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