These are more of those job killing regulations we always hear about.

As far as I can tell, the USA is the only country that advertises prices without taxes added in. It's a pain in the ass. Any where else I travel, if you buy something that says 5... 10... 15... whatever on the pricetag. That's what you pay. Book it. Done.

Will there be a "listing everything" fee?

What difference does it make?

A few months later, several major airlines will go under.

/I spelled "get bailed out by the government" wrong

Diogenes: Informed consumers?

This will end badly.

This doesn't inform. An itemized ticket would inform. This allows taxes and other fees to go unnoticed.

Last time I booked with Expedia they gave me the right price, taxes and all. Actually last 3 times

Kayak.com already does this when comparing prices. And Virgin America shows you the price right when you click on a flight.

I don't get it.

They are going to have to make the tickets a lot bigger I guess.

I like how Spirit Airlines is basically saying "Look, if we're *honest* about our fares, our entire business model is farked.

/ Well, then, go get farked

... Southwest have asked the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia to block the proposed change, arguing that it violates their commercial free speech rights.


Southwest is against it? huh??

Then again, this might be a major pain in the arse since it would require them to calculate the total tax and 9/11 security fee for every advertisement they put out, and those vary not just state to state but airport to airport.

TV's Vinnie: Will there be a "listing everything" fee?

Apparently you have learned from the Sweet Haven Tax Collector

Darth_Lukecash: Isn't a tax always government imposed, Subby?

No, the taxes on airline tickets are not always government imposed.
If you look on the tax breakdown of your plane ticket, you will usually see one followed by a tax code of either 'YQ' or 'YR'. These are airline-imposed fuel surcharges which are charged on a ticket as a tax. These are usually the ones that are responsible for doubling or tripling the cost of your ticket.

For the most part, the government taxes - departure fees, arrival fees, etc - are fairly low. But the airline taxes usually run into the hundreds. Sometimes four digits, depending on carrier, route, and destination.

Many used to charge these as a surcharge that was added to your base fare, and not as a tax, but most have switched over to the tax format.

They are going to charge a fee on this too.

/pfft. great

Still doesnt help for the other 3/4 of the airline-driven-fees.

/Oxygen in the cabin is a $40 surcharge

Can we get the same thing for cell phone prices, too, please? From what I've learned, an "unlimited everything for $79.95/month" comes to about $150/month.

If force is your premise, then the destruction of life is your conscious object. Force = the premise of death.

The government has no right to force airlines to shine its shoes, much less advertise against its own interests. This is just the latest incidence of an out of control government dictating to Prime Movers how to run their businesses. It's the next step down the path of socialist tyranny.

pudding7: Car_Ramrod: Kayak.com already does this when comparing prices. And Virgin America shows you the price right when you click on a flight.

I don't get it.

What don't you get?

Maybe it's because I have always lived near major airports (O'Hare and SFO) and get to use better airline, but when I book flights, I'm never mistaken about the final price of tickets by using one of the above methods. I didn't know this was such a big problem.

Suck it, airlines

TV's Vinnie: Will there be a "listing everything" fee?

Yes, but it won't be disclosed until you're at the gate.

Twice Banned: Diogenes: Informed consumers?

This will end badly.

This doesn't inform. An itemized ticket would inform. This allows taxes and other fees to go unnoticed.

THIS

I know America does some things differently but, in terms of buying a ticket online, it can't be too different than in the UK, can it? Don't you always get a final figure before you enter your special banking code into that window you're afraid might crash? Do you later get an email saying you have to go to wherever and pay some more money or something?

/bloody chrome redlining me words - is onlinereally not a cromulent word?
//but farking 'cleggmania' (new window) is?

aselene: If force is your premise, then the destruction of life is your conscious object. Force = the premise of death.

The government has no right to force airlines to shine its shoes, much less advertise against its own interests. This is just the latest incidence of an out of control government dictating to Prime Movers how to run their businesses. It's the next step down the path of socialist tyranny.

We now have Smart and Funny tags. How about Stupid?

So they're going to crack down on false advertising, big deal, when are they going to stop false imprisonment? I read about passengers spending 12 hours on the runway and nobody from the airlines goes to prison for that? If you did that and didn't run an airline you'd be in the pen for 10 years for one person let alone 150. Factor in no food and no toilets and it becomes a crime against humanity. I think the next time that happens the if CEO goes away it's going to stop happening.

OgreMagi: Can we get the same thing for cell phone prices, too, please? From what I've learned, an "unlimited everything for $79.95/month" comes to about $150/month.

And cable/phone/satellite companies - 3 mo. for $29.99, but no where on their website can you find the price it will actually change to when that 3 months is up.

aselene: If force is your premise, then the destruction of life is your conscious object. Force = the premise of death.

The government has no right to force airlines to shine its shoes, much less advertise against its own interests. This is just the latest incidence of an out of control government dictating to Prime Movers how to run their businesses. It's the next step down the path of socialist tyranny.

Do you have any idea how crazy you are?

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OgreMagi
Can we get the same thing for cell phone prices, too, please? From what I've learned, an "unlimited everything for $79.95/month" comes to about $150/month.

They already do, have your ever seen you billing statement. Its broken down to all the fees, 911, regulatory, state, local ect. This would be nice to see for your Air ticket so you can get even more pissed off about what the fees are and who they go to.

JulietRomeo: Darth_Lukecash: Isn't a tax always government imposed, Subby?

No, the taxes on airline tickets are not always government imposed.
If you look on the tax breakdown of your plane ticket, you will usually see one followed by a tax code of either 'YQ' or 'YR'. These are airline-imposed fuel surcharges which are charged on a ticket as a tax. These are usually the ones that are responsible for doubling or tripling the cost of your ticket.

For the most part, the government taxes - departure fees, arrival fees, etc - are fairly low. But the airline taxes usually run into the hundreds. Sometimes four digits, depending on carrier, route, and destination.

Many used to charge these as a surcharge that was added to your base fare, and not as a tax, but most have switched over to the tax format.

You're saying a tax is a percentage based fee?

I guess I get charged a fee when I go to the DMV. But I consider that a tax. Am I wrong?

Is there a pair words that distinguish between the government forcing us to cough up more dough when paying for a good or service (however derived) and what the cost of the actual good or service is (however derived)?

I alway just called it a tax and is something exclusive to the goverment.

/clarification may cleanse the cloudy confusion

The Stealth Hippopotamus: now if they did this with gas prices.

You would be shocked at how little is actually tax and how much is outright theft. I found that when gas was near $4 a gallon there was only .53 cents a gallon in taxes here in Tn. This was also at a time when if you looked at the price of gas in relation to the price of oil then gas with taxes should have been around 2.15 a gallon.

These smart and funny buttons are . Even dumber than the PITA meter a while back.

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/6846679/73920929#c73920929" target="_blank">ZAZ</a>:</b> <i>An airline's "air with oxygen" fee is already required to be included.</i>

Maybe I'm just an overly pampered American, but I'm not flying on any airline that doesn't include oxygen in its air.

/pure nitrogen, that's a little hard to breathe, even on a short flight