The world needs more people like that guy.

If that happened to me I know that I would do the right thing.

(the "right thing", of course, being hookers and blow.)

What does the word "unmarked" mean? My definition must be completely wrong.

My vote is that he shoulda kept it...duh! Unless of course being percieved as "good" is worth more than the moola/

Given that money won gambling is "free," I think the guy could have let the finder keep half. He'd still have been $5,000 up.

Stories like this shore up my shaky faith in humanity.

Would have been a nice move if the good samaritan would have been rewarded with some...or half.

I once found $400 on the floor of a casino in Reno. Used it to get married an hour later. Worst. Mistake. Ever.

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?

It's good that people pitch in and help out the all struggling drug dealer.

BritneysCamelToe: Would have been a nice move if the good samaritan would have been rewarded with some...or half.

The guy found money that belonged to someone else and gave it back to the person it belonged to. It doesn't matter whether the money was earned at a job or through gambling. It doesnt matter if he was rewarded. He did it because it was the right thing to do. Anyone who doesnt understand that is ethically compromised.

Is it Ok to cheat on a standardized college admissions test if no one ever knows?

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?

That giving up 20 grand in cash is an idiotic move?

Anywhere else I'd say give it back, but in Vegas? Keep it.

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?

No kids yet but I plan to teach them to do the right thing and make every effort to return lost property.

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?


That it is OK to take what isn't yours as long as you can make some lame rationalization.

As least if you spend it all in Vegas's flagging hooker and blow industry then you'll be doing something worthwhile with the money...

Tatsuma: shivashakti: The world needs more people like that guy.

Indeed

legendary: It has become much more difficult for me to understand truly good people than truly bad people.

... and we need less people who think like you.

gerrymander: Keeping the money would have been the morally neutral norm.

No it wouldn't have been

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seriously what is wrong with (almost) all of you?!

They are morally corrupt.

rightful owner should have given him like 40-50% for making the effort. I know I would have if it had been my money.

The way I see it, the guy's out the ten K when he drops, whether I pick it up and keep it, pick it up and give it to charity, or a velociraptor eats the damn envelope. The practical effects of his stupidity is done. Also, this guy's carrying around half my yearly income in cash in a goddamn envelope, and I could use it a hell of a lot more. Damn right, I'm getting richer.

Tatsuma: seriously what is wrong with (almost) all of you?!

People on fark tend to show a lot of immoral behavior and/or opinions.

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?

Ahem, this is fark. We refer to them as crotchfruit, spawn or snowflakes around here.

So I guess the Airport lost-and-found lady has an uncle in El Paso...

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"I wanted to show my kids the right thing to do. It would have been a lot easier keeping it to be honest with you. But I felt like I had to get it back to the right person," Gilbert said.

So, what are you all going to teach *your* kids (if any now/later)?

Ahem, this is fark. We refer to them as crotchfruit, spawn or snowflakes around here.

Heh. I know.

It's easier to give it back now and hope for a reward than to wait for the search warrant when the guy who lost it has the casino look for you on the security cameras

Vitamin Pb: So what I'm seeing is that there an awful lot of 1%ers wannabes here on Fark. I mean, just keep what isn't yours, cause it's morally OK, right?

But it is mine. I have it in my possession.

I think the "immoral" responses are brought on by the fact that the money was gambling winnings / leftover from losses. This isn't money someone earned by the sweat of their brow so to speak. If they were some professional gambler, then they lost the gamble of being able to keep up with their own cash or deposit it / convert to secured form of currency (a check in the wallet, traveler's checks, etc.).

It's of a lower moral threshold than, "Would you return $20 to Bill Gates if you saw him drop it? $100? $1000..."

Also, there is a high likelyhood of being hoodwinked by someone at the airport into giving the money to a relative or friend of the person at the other end of the phone if you keep calling back saying I found a wad of cash in Ceasar's Palace envelopes.

In most situations I would say you must absolutely try to find the person who lost the cash, but given the premise... it's closer to the moral question of, "I found drug money in a lunch box in a bad neighborhood. Do I return it for any reason other than fear of reprisal?"

d) walk out, slowly so as not to arouse suspicion, and escape with the cash touse for better things than either of those.

I'm just not that honest, sorry.

Tatsuma: AaronB1138: I think the "immoral" responses are brought on by the fact that the money was gambling winnings / leftover from losses.

How would you possibly know?
Also, why would it matter?

I mean I'm gonna get my shotgun and go rob lottery winners, after all they 'won' the money, they didn't earn it.

Um, I'm pretty sure violence and premeditation make a slight difference there, Plato.

He must not be from around here.

Stuff you find, be it money or whatever, doesn't belong to you. "Finders keepers, losers weepers" is a myth, not a legal fact.

gerrymander: As soon as you're willing to put your money down against an uncertain outcome, you earn the right of claim to the profit if the outcome is good, and to the loss if it's bad.

Wall Street apparently doesn't believe in the second part. Privatize the profits, but socialize the losses.

Tatsuma: Wrong_Intentions: Um, I'm pretty sure violence and premeditation make a slight difference there, Plato.

theft is theft is theft, however you justified it.

Just because someone has lost his possession doesn't automatically make it yours.

And I was answering that line of thought that 'Hey they won it through chance, not really theirs in the first place'

And this ain't theft. It's discarded property. Idiot recklessly but still (presumably) gave up possession of the money. I never touched him, never talked to him, never interacted with him. I took from the floor. If I found that money adrift in the ocean, would I be responsible to search the seven seas for its origin?

My criteria for stealing:

Is it something I actually want?
Is it completely simple to do?
Is there virtually no risk?
Will it have little to no effect on the person/place I'm stealing from?

If I can answer yes to all of these, I'd probably do it. But it's pretty rare that happens.

Tatsuma: Wrong_Intentions: And this ain't theft. It's discarded property.

For something to be discarded property, it has to be discarded in the first place, not lost.

Lost property doesn't belong to anyone who finds it. 'Finders Keepers' is not a legal argument.

If someone loses something and someone keeps it as a property, this is theft, plain and simple.

I love how you think this is all so simple, btw. If somebody's carrying around that much cash, and not being careful about it, yeah, that's not doing enough to prevent loss, their idiocy.

browntimmy: My criteria for stealing:

Is it something I actually want?
Is it completely simple to do?
Is there virtually no risk?
Will it have little to no effect on the person/place I'm stealing from?

If I can answer yes to all of these, I'd probably do it. But it's pretty rare that happens.

Oh, I should add: Do I not respect that person/place?

Wrong_Intentions: Tatsuma: Wrong_Intentions: And this ain't theft. It's discarded property.

For something to be discarded property, it has to be discarded in the first place, not lost.

Lost property doesn't belong to anyone who finds it. 'Finders Keepers' is not a legal argument.

If someone loses something and someone keeps it as a property, this is theft, plain and simple.

I love how you think this is all so simple, btw. If somebody's carrying around that much cash, and not being careful about it, yeah, that's not doing enough to prevent loss, their idiocy.

FYI, it's not unknown for police departments to set up stings by placing cash or other valuables in a public place then pursuing anyone who takes them and tries to abscond without turning them in.

farkityfarker: Wrong_Intentions: Tatsuma: Wrong_Intentions: And this ain't theft. It's discarded property.

For something to be discarded property, it has to be discarded in the first place, not lost.

Lost property doesn't belong to anyone who finds it. 'Finders Keepers' is not a legal argument.

If someone loses something and someone keeps it as a property, this is theft, plain and simple.

I love how you think this is all so simple, btw. If somebody's carrying around that much cash, and not being careful about it, yeah, that's not doing enough to prevent loss, their idiocy.

FYI, it's not unknown for police departments to set up stings by placing cash or other valuables in a public place then pursuing anyone who takes them and tries to abscond without turning them in.

IANAL, but that sounds like a decent case of entrapment.

Tatsuma: theft is theft is theft, however you justified it.

Finding lost property is not theft, no matter how much you want it to be. There is a huge body of common law regarding lost, mislaid, and abandoned property.

Under common law, the finder of lost property has title to it over anyone except the rightful owner. Many jurisdictions have laws which require you to turn lost property over to the authorities, but that is still not theft - it would be a violation of the lost property statute.