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(Forbes)   San Antonio leads list of best US economies, probably because they don't bother with salsa made in New York City   (forbes.com) divider line 69
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2011-12-26 10:46:01 PM  
That is where my bank is.

/probably not related
 
2011-12-26 11:08:25 PM  
Nice reference, subby. Although the better commercials where the New Jersey one...just because of the way they said it.
 
2011-12-26 11:09:16 PM  
My city just hired their Asst. City Manager. Here's hopin' he can do something about the amazing fark-ups of the past several years.
 
2011-12-26 11:09:18 PM  
There is no such thing as salsa made in New York City. Closest they come is ketchup.
 
2011-12-26 11:57:32 PM  
NEW YORK CITY????

(sorry- had to be done)
 
2011-12-27 12:00:47 AM  
Hey! This stuff's made in New York City!

(all): NEW YORK CITY?!?!
 
2011-12-27 12:13:12 AM  
I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums
 
2011-12-27 12:22:29 AM  
I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.
 
2011-12-27 12:30:40 AM  

Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.


Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.
 
2011-12-27 12:31:27 AM  

erik316wttn: Hey! This stuff's made in New York City!

(all): NEW YORK CITY?!?!


Get a rope.
 
2011-12-27 12:33:34 AM  

pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums


I live in Kyle, in between Austin and San Antonio. i hate going into Austin, as every time you hit a red light, you're assaulted by homeless and beggars. they're pretty aggressive with single women, also.
 
2011-12-27 12:35:33 AM  

Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.


The study measures strength of economy, so let's see...we should aim for a really crappy economy, and then no business will want to come here, and THAT will make the few jobs we have left really cushy! Brilliant!!
 
2011-12-27 12:41:01 AM  

oldebayer: There is no such thing as salsa made in New York City. Closest they come is ketchup.


It's true. Instead we dip corn chips into a sort of delicious onion and tomato chutney.
 
2011-12-27 12:44:11 AM  

Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.


pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums


video man: Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.

Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.


937CptCrunch: pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums

I live in Kyle, in between Austin and San Antonio. i hate going into Austin, as every time you hit a red light, you're assaulted by homeless and beggars. they're pretty aggressive with single women, also.


Austin is a very shiatty place place. Don't even visit here, much less think of moving this way. Stay in CA, MI, and NY. Way more jobs there.
 
2011-12-27 12:46:20 AM  

video man: Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.

Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.


... and 3,000 sq/ft brand new houses (5 bedrooms, 4 bath, 3 car garage) in the suburbs that go for around $100k.
 
2011-12-27 12:52:57 AM  
Austin is a very shiatty place place. Don't even visit here, much less think of moving this way. Stay in CA, MI, and NY. Way more jobs there.

I'm moving up to pheonix, my brother though austin would be a great place to plant down and found a company since it was the capital of a state with 30million people but this is pathetic, I've seen towns in new york with better infrastructure.
 
2011-12-27 01:01:09 AM  

SunsetLament: video man: Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.

Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.

... and 3,000 sq/ft brand new houses (5 bedrooms, 4 bath, 3 car garage) in the suburbs that go for around $100k.


Cost of living is less, etc.
Texas is pretty good if you want a cheap, large house and a decent plot of land.
 
2011-12-27 01:16:51 AM  
Austin sucks, with a capital T!

Seriously, the homeless in Austin have the HIV/Black Plague and the City Council promotes this !!!
 
2011-12-27 01:17:40 AM  
Don't forget the 42 bazillion jobs created by the US government in the city. Lackland AFB, Randolph AFB, the AFBs formerly known as Kelly and Brooks, and Fort Sam Houston (including the burn ward at BAMC). That's a lot of sweet, sweet gubmint cash flowing in.
 
2011-12-27 02:07:26 AM  
Phoenix? Nothing here. LA is where it is at.
 
2011-12-27 02:37:13 AM  

feckingmorons: That is where my bank is.

/probably not related


I'm probably going to quit USAA soon myself. They're just another mega bank with marginally better customer service. It's also a pain in the ass trying to get large sums of money out and mailing deposits in.

I've also found out that all of their loan products suck; their rates are way above market from practically anybody else

My auxiliary CU account seems to be working out better
 
2011-12-27 03:09:17 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Phoenix? Nothing here. LA is where it is at.


No, I already know a lot of my friends businesses are set up in pheonix and the city's pretty decent. It's definitly within striking distance of LA though if I have to go there as compared to driving from texas.

Whats pheonix to la by car 5-6hours? I'll take the plane be there in a hour
 
2011-12-27 03:46:35 AM  

pollardy: Nadie_AZ: Phoenix? Nothing here. LA is where it is at.

No, I already know a lot of my friends businesses are set up in pheonix and the city's pretty decent. It's definitly within striking distance of LA though if I have to go there as compared to driving from texas.

Whats pheonix to la by car 5-6hours? I'll take the plane be there in a hour


more like 7 unless you're an epic leadfoot, vegas is a little longer. Not that bad a drive either way though. Pretty nice though, when the heat in the summer gets too much, you can drive 2 hours and be in the mountains, or drive 6 and be at the beach.
/and you haven't seen anything, until you've seen the grand canyon. it's mindboggling-ly big.
 
2011-12-27 03:53:17 AM  

Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.


www.cwahm.com
THIS!
 
2011-12-27 03:56:42 AM  
They don't bother with a lot of things in Texas, like providing services to their citizens or enforcing environmental laws. This is why the Orange County Register thinks it's a libertarian paradise.
They're great at luring businesses like this one (new window), which provides lots of jobs picking through garbage.
 
2011-12-27 04:18:55 AM  
No cities in Ohio were on that list?? Color me shocked!

/moving to Columbus
 
2011-12-27 05:15:19 AM  
And that's why they have the highest GDP per capita in the country!

/26th and below the national average? (new window) Unpossible!
 
2011-12-27 05:37:48 AM  
img684.imageshack.us

Sorry, Texas.
 
2011-12-27 07:29:43 AM  
I'm not surprised that Texas dominates this list. However, most of these cities kind of suck.
 
2011-12-27 08:08:27 AM  

erik316wttn: Hey! This stuff's made in New York City!

(all): NEW YORK CITY?!?!


That really chaps my hide!
 
2011-12-27 08:46:42 AM  

937CptCrunch: pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums

I live in Kyle, in between Austin and San Antonio. i hate going into Austin, as every time you hit a red light, you're assaulted by homeless and beggars. they're pretty aggressive with single women, also.


Where the hell are you running into all these bums? I can only think of one or two "regulars" I drive by on my regular commutes and they have the decency to stay on the side of the road and don't approach cars unless someone's giving them a handout. Even on the rare occasions I go downtown I'm never accosted. Galveston (pre-Ike, moved in '07)/south Houston area they were pretty bad though.

And for the obligatory Fark snark: they should be rounded up and shipped overseas or whatever the historically appropriate method is for addressing homeless persons.
 
2011-12-27 09:05:33 AM  

video man: Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.

Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.


I am moving to Philadelphia, and went into a grocery store while there looking for a house to see what it was like.

It turns it food is about twice as expensive in Pennsylvania as it is in Houston.
 
2011-12-27 09:22:08 AM  
Yes, it is cheap to live in Texas. Cost of living is low...but you get what you pay for.

shiat infrastructure (I've been in countries in the Middle East and eastern Europe that have fewer power outages, loss of internet connection, and fewer potholes in roads than Houston...), shiat schools, corrupt and/or useless cops (they spend the overwhelming majority of their time and budgets on hyped drug busts and traffic issues than anything else...god forbid your house or car get broken into...), frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards (think "Children of the Corn" or that "DARK SIDED" lady...), and a willfully ignorant population (there are estimates that run somewhere between 33-45% of the state as functionally illiterate).

Throw in the weather and climate (6 months straight with no rain during the hottest part of the year, then we get 2 weeks of drenches in a flood plain, with 100+ degree and 80% humidity 9 months out of the year...), the bugs and slugs, and it being in the South...

Texas is a wasteland. It is a 3d world country. No more, no less.
 
2011-12-27 09:25:43 AM  
Things I've noticed about these cities on the list is that they're either:

A. College towns (The Triangle and Austin)
B. Reliant on government jobs (DC and the Military)
C. Reliant on the oil and gas industry.

No wonder none of the cities in Missouri made this list.
 
2011-12-27 09:29:10 AM  

Friend_Computer: 937CptCrunch: pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums

I live in Kyle, in between Austin and San Antonio. i hate going into Austin, as every time you hit a red light, you're assaulted by homeless and beggars. they're pretty aggressive with single women, also.

Where the hell are you running into all these bums? I can only think of one or two "regulars" I drive by on my regular commutes and they have the decency to stay on the side of the road and don't approach cars unless someone's giving them a handout. Even on the rare occasions I go downtown I'm never accosted. Galveston (pre-Ike, moved in '07)/south Houston area they were pretty bad though.

And for the obligatory Fark snark: they should be rounded up and shipped overseas or whatever the historically appropriate method is for addressing homeless persons.


I think they are being sarcastic or just trolling. The Austin bums are very nice and not aggressive at all - unlike San Antonio. :(

And yes. Austin is horrible! Just like Baltimore and Philly. Smells like piss on every street. The buildings are run down and they are the RUDEST people on the planet. I swear if the Dos Equis didn't flow like water there I would never would go back. I can't imagine why so many people move there.

So for everyone thinking of Austin...GO AWAY!
 
2011-12-27 09:36:18 AM  

PainSorrowLoss: Yes, it is cheap to live in Texas. Cost of living is low...but you get what you pay for.

shiat infrastructure (I've been in countries in the Middle East and eastern Europe that have fewer power outages, loss of internet connection, and fewer potholes in roads than Houston...), shiat schools, corrupt and/or useless cops (they spend the overwhelming majority of their time and budgets on hyped drug busts and traffic issues than anything else...god forbid your house or car get broken into...), frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards (think "Children of the Corn" or that "DARK SIDED" lady...), and a willfully ignorant population (there are estimates that run somewhere between 33-45% of the state as functionally illiterate).

Throw in the weather and climate (6 months straight with no rain during the hottest part of the year, then we get 2 weeks of drenches in a flood plain, with 100+ degree and 80% humidity 9 months out of the year...), the bugs and slugs, and it being in the South...

Texas is a wasteland. It is a 3d world country. No more, no less.


Do you have any links to back up those statements? Other than the weather
 
2011-12-27 09:53:19 AM  

Bamboozler: PainSorrowLoss: Yes, it is cheap to live in Texas. Cost of living is low...but you get what you pay for.

shiat infrastructure (I've been in countries in the Middle East and eastern Europe that have fewer power outages, loss of internet connection, and fewer potholes in roads than Houston...), shiat schools, corrupt and/or useless cops (they spend the overwhelming majority of their time and budgets on hyped drug busts and traffic issues than anything else...god forbid your house or car get broken into...), frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards (think "Children of the Corn" or that "DARK SIDED" lady...), and a willfully ignorant population (there are estimates that run somewhere between 33-45% of the state as functionally illiterate).

Throw in the weather and climate (6 months straight with no rain during the hottest part of the year, then we get 2 weeks of drenches in a flood plain, with 100+ degree and 80% humidity 9 months out of the year...), the bugs and slugs, and it being in the South...

Texas is a wasteland. It is a 3d world country. No more, no less.

Do you have any links to back up those statements? Other than the weather


I live in San Antonio. In the 7 years I have lived in my house I have had 3 power outages. The longest lasted I think 3 hours and it was a rainy night and we watched lightning hit a power pole on our drive home. The other two lasted for probably 15-30 minutes each. I have Time Warner internet and have had no more than 2 internet outages (barring the power losses above). They were probably for an hour each. I am having trouble remembering them though because it's been a long time since they happened. It's true we don't get many potholes. Not a lot of weather that causes them (freeze/thaw). Shiat schools. Not sure. Our daughter is 4 and we plan to homeschool because the education system in this country is farked up. I have never had any dealings with cops nor have I needed their assistance so I can't comment on this. Our house has never been broken into, nor has our car. We live in a non-HOA neighborhood, we feel relatively safe and sometimes leave our windows etc open all night. Frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards. We this isn't a coast so YMMV. Willfully ignorant population - this is probably due to the large of illegal/recently legal population. I as a Caucasian, am a minority in this city. it doesn't bother me beyond the fact that hispanic people will switch their conversation from english to spanish when you come closer like in a grocery store. Guess what I speak spanish you silly people.

The weather in the summer is brutal. My electricity cost for the summer months (May-October) are around $300 per month, but on the flip side we don't run our air conditioner from October to May and we barely run our heater. I think last year we turned on our heater for like 4 or 5 days in February. I think my average electricity bill per month comes out to about $200 for a 1400 sqft house with a pool pump which runs nightly year round (no freezing, no draining pool).

I think that the cost of living and the great economy offset a lot of the crappiness.

/My 2 cents
 
2011-12-27 09:55:34 AM  

Bamboozler: PainSorrowLoss: Yes, it is cheap to live in Texas. Cost of living is low...but you get what you pay for.

shiat infrastructure (I've been in countries in the Middle East and eastern Europe that have fewer power outages, loss of internet connection, and fewer potholes in roads than Houston...), shiat schools, corrupt and/or useless cops (they spend the overwhelming majority of their time and budgets on hyped drug busts and traffic issues than anything else...god forbid your house or car get broken into...), frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards (think "Children of the Corn" or that "DARK SIDED" lady...), and a willfully ignorant population (there are estimates that run somewhere between 33-45% of the state as functionally illiterate).

Throw in the weather and climate (6 months straight with no rain during the hottest part of the year, then we get 2 weeks of drenches in a flood plain, with 100+ degree and 80% humidity 9 months out of the year...), the bugs and slugs, and it being in the South...

Texas is a wasteland. It is a 3d world country. No more, no less.

Do you have any links to back up those statements? Other than the weather


Which statements? That the power in my suburb outside of Houston goes out 2 to 3 times a week? That myself, my 2 next-door neighbors, and the neighbor across the street lose internet connection (i.e., modems reset or flat-out crater) daily for periods of 15 to 45 minutes at a clip? That's mere personal observation when compared to the periods of my life spent in Poland, Romania, and Ukraine.

The street/infrastructure situation? There is a stretch of 59 North that has been under construction since I moved here in 1987 that still isn't done. FM1960 is 2 lanes in an area that has gone from 20k people to 40K (and growing...) in that same 20+ year period of time. Or how about that time when they took a 2-mile section of 59S that sees 600K cars a day and destroyed it, forcing all that traffic onto 2-lane feeder roads. Houston and Dallas traffic are pretty notorious...

The schools? I guess I could look up information if you really required it, but we've had enough Fark threads about the Texas school boards that if you're a regular, you should then know how religious zealots took over a lot of the boards. And the mockery our textbooks have become (increasing mentions of Phyllis Schafly and Rush Limbaugh and decreasing mention of Thomas Jefferson...).

I could go on, but again, you're going to have to be a little more specific about the links you want.
 
2011-12-27 10:00:13 AM  
San Antonio is booming because of the huge military footprint. They just moved Brooks City Base to Wright Patterson, but that was a tiny base. Sheppard's mission just moved to BAMC to be joint medical training, so that was a bigger influx.

/thank God I only spent about 6 months there and my training base moved last year from that forsaken state
 
2011-12-27 10:00:35 AM  
Pay in San Antonio is low along with the cost of real estate.

Many jobs require that you speak Spanish.

1604 is called the Death Loop for a reason.
 
2011-12-27 10:00:36 AM  
Jeez, they could have picked a better picture than 6th St.

i865.photobucket.com

Don't move here, you'd hate it.
 
2011-12-27 10:05:34 AM  

PainSorrowLoss: Yes, it is cheap to live in Texas. Cost of living is low...but you get what you pay for.

shiat infrastructure (I've been in countries in the Middle East and eastern Europe that have fewer power outages, loss of internet connection, and fewer potholes in roads than Houston...), shiat schools, corrupt and/or useless cops (they spend the overwhelming majority of their time and budgets on hyped drug busts and traffic issues than anything else...god forbid your house or car get broken into...), frighteningly fundamentalist churches and school boards (think "Children of the Corn" or that "DARK SIDED" lady...), and a willfully ignorant population (there are estimates that run somewhere between 33-45% of the state as functionally illiterate).

Throw in the weather and climate (6 months straight with no rain during the hottest part of the year, then we get 2 weeks of drenches in a flood plain, with 100+ degree and 80% humidity 9 months out of the year...), the bugs and slugs, and it being in the South...

Texas is a wasteland. It is a 3d world country. No more, no less.


coming from someone that lives in a hole in the ground
 
2011-12-27 10:13:47 AM  

PainSorrowLoss: That the power in my suburb outside of Houston goes out 2 to 3 times a week?


This is either a lie or you have serious electrical issues in your neighborhood. The rest of Houston does not have unusually frequent power outages.
 
2011-12-27 10:25:53 AM  

pollardy: I live in austin, I wish this place was as good as they say san antonio is. For the capital of texas this place is a shiathole with a huge homeless problem.

/is moving to pheonix
//Austin lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in company taxes as they can't control their bums


My friend, let me clue you in. You live in paradise compared to here (San Antonio). I would give my left nut to live in Austin as opposed to here. As for the homeless problem, we are kings of the homeless issue. Hell, the county built them a $100 million dollar shelter (private funded to get it built) and its supported by tax dollars now. We are the biggest one horse town in Texas and are forever moving backwards. Austin, is at least cleaner, more progressive and has way hotter chicks. I farking hate San Antonio and Ive been here 44 years.
 
2011-12-27 10:33:45 AM  

Maud Dib: Don't move here, you'd hate it.


And if you live here and hate it, leave.
 
2011-12-27 10:34:24 AM  

hoho19: It's true we don't get many potholes. Not a lot of weather that causes them (freeze/thaw). Shiat schools. Not sure. Our daughter is 4 and we plan to homeschool because the education system in this country is farked up. I have never had any dealings with cops nor have I needed their assistance so I can't comment ...


What part of town do you live in to not have pot holes? Ive never seen worse roads. You need a damn 4wheel drive just to get around, especially downtown. The potholes here are caused by water damage from broken mains, a general lack of maintenance and poor planning during the development of our road system which failed miserably to predict the increases in population and traffic to coincide with plans for future construction.

/yeah Im bitter.
//lives in Converse and its actually worse here road-wise.
 
2011-12-27 10:41:31 AM  

SunsetLament: video man: Old enough to know better: I'm guessing Texas + Popular with businesses = The state makes it really easy for companies to fark their workers.

Yup. Sun Belt states, Texas in particular, have shiatty salaries.

... and 3,000 sq/ft brand new houses (5 bedrooms, 4 bath, 3 car garage) in the suburbs that go for around $100k.


Where? In Brownsville?
 
2011-12-27 10:42:58 AM  
There's also one place near San Antonio that I should mention. You try to drive through and they're usually all over the place, blocking the road sometimes, begging for food, sticking their heads in the windows if you let them near enough. Sometimes, traffic can be really bad and you're stuck there.

/ my 14 month old loves it, though
// we bought season passes
 
2011-12-27 10:48:12 AM  

YixilTesiphon: PainSorrowLoss: That the power in my suburb outside of Houston goes out 2 to 3 times a week?

This is either a lie or you have serious electrical issues in your neighborhood. The rest of Houston does not have unusually frequent power outages.


It wasn't as bad before Ike. Maybe once a week or so (more during the summer, obviously). But after Ike, it's 2 to 3 times a week. Sometimes more. I don't think CenterPoint ever fixed the damage from the hurricane. Just slapped a couple of grid "bandaids" down and called it a day.

I used to think it was just our neighborhood, but it happens in quite a few of the older neighborhoods surrounding ours as well. It isn't a problem in most of the new neighborhoods, I think.
 
2011-12-27 10:51:52 AM  

Litterbox: //lives in Converse


Represent! Although, I'm basically in Universal City and/or Live Oak.

//Corner of Kitty Hawk and Toepperwein.
///Sorry about the threadjack.
 
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