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(AL.com) Interesting If eating produce is supposed to be so good for you, then why are fruit flies always so fat and diabetic?   (blog.al.com) divider line 44
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2011-12-26 02:14:04 PM
You never see diabetic bacon flies. PETA is LYING to you.
 
2011-12-26 02:26:21 PM
And don't me started on the broccoli flies.
 
2011-12-26 03:40:24 PM
Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana
 
2011-12-26 03:56:31 PM
Do they have to fly to find the fruit or is it dropped in their enclosure? Lack of exercise is the most likely reason.
 
2011-12-26 05:33:36 PM
Because they're from Alabama.
 
2011-12-26 05:40:38 PM
It's that damn sweet tea. Truly an abomination unto the Lord.
 
2011-12-26 05:50:04 PM
I'd like to eat Joana Hubickey until i experience health problems associated to such a narrow diet.
 
2011-12-26 05:50:05 PM
The truth always wins in the end

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/Evangelical low-carbian
//low-carbianity is the new gospel
///sugar is satans alt
////or satan salt ftm
 
2011-12-26 05:52:00 PM
Flies?

Call in the SWAT team . . .
 
2011-12-26 05:53:04 PM
Philosoraptor sez...
 
2011-12-26 05:53:55 PM
They spend the warm weather months inside of liquor bottles in bars and taverns?
 
2011-12-26 05:54:16 PM
shanrick: Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana


cft;ls
 
2011-12-26 05:55:07 PM
You could always try eating shiat.
 
2011-12-26 05:55:54 PM
tomWright: The truth always wins in the end

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/Evangelical low-carbian
//low-carbianity is the new gospel
///sugar is satans alt
////or satan salt ftm


My mom is in a Christian weight loss group so getting a kick, etc.

Okay, fine, apparently it isn't explicitly so but the members in her group certainly lay it on damn thick anytime I've met them
 
2011-12-26 05:58:13 PM
to join the University of Alabama faculty: thousands of fruit flies -- 200 separate, inbred lines

Coals to Newcastle.
 
2011-12-26 06:00:40 PM
probably something to do with a vastly different biology and fruit flies only live about 24-48 hours (figure pulled out of my ass, but it's not long).

Man, that takes me back. In high school we did experiments with fruit flies. We were supposed to be learning about genetics or some shiat but the only thing I remember about it is fruit flies have lots of kids and they don't live very long. Also there's genes and they are passed down from generation to generation. And also one of the hottest girls in high school sat in front of me during that class.
 
2011-12-26 06:01:40 PM
FTFA: In general, she takes hundreds of inbred lines of fruit flies and feeds each line four different diets: normal, low-calorie, high-sugar or high-fat.

I'm curious if like many studies, the high-fat diet is loaded with corn oil. If it is, then they've proved that a fat created in a lab is not good for you. Thanks, we already knew that.
 
2011-12-26 06:03:14 PM
Fruit is mostly very bulky, and self limiting in amount one will realistically consume, so it tends to be a satisfying healthy part of most diets. The exception is those deadly perfect Georgia peaches, but are so delicious one can eat a half dozen of those beauties in a day.

A picture of what georgia peaches might look like...

www.islandmix.com
 
2011-12-26 06:05:09 PM
Harry_Seldon: Fruit is mostly very bulky, and self limiting in amount one will realistically consume, so it tends to be a satisfying healthy part of most diets.

Fat is even more self-limiting, unless it's breaded or covered in sugar. I wonder how the hot dog eating contest contestants would do if they just at the hot dog and not the bun.
 
2011-12-26 06:06:13 PM
...because all they eat is farking fruit?
 
2011-12-26 06:07:19 PM
I was talking with a woman who was lamenting the fact that, even though she was completely vegetarian, she still couldn't lose weight.

Unwisely, I pointed out that cows are vegetarians, and they're fat too.

I almost didn't duck fast enough ;)
 
2011-12-26 06:14:29 PM
TheOther: to join the University of Alabama faculty: thousands of fruit flies -- 200 separate, inbred lines

Coals to Newcastle.


With the "inbred lines" part, they just described everything associated with that school.
 
2011-12-26 06:35:00 PM
Not only, that, but they have a 30 day lifespan and are dropping like flys.
 
2011-12-26 06:35:46 PM
SpinStopper: I was talking with a woman who was lamenting the fact that, even though she was completely vegetarian, she still couldn't lose weight.

Unwisely, I pointed out that cows are vegetarians, and they're fat too.

I almost didn't duck fast enough ;)


Eating fat makes you fat just like how eating protein makes you... protein?
 
2011-12-26 06:40:09 PM
Saners: Eating fat makes you fat just like how eating protein makes you... protein?

Have kidney problems.
 
2011-12-26 06:42:02 PM
Saners: SpinStopper: I was talking with a woman who was lamenting the fact that, even though she was completely vegetarian, she still couldn't lose weight.

Unwisely, I pointed out that cows are vegetarians, and they're fat too.

I almost didn't duck fast enough ;)

Eating fat makes you fat just like how eating protein makes you... protein?


it makes you port-elie(n)
 
2011-12-26 06:47:17 PM
I remember as a young mayfly when the big glowing spot was on the opposite side of the sky!

/hikes up tiny onion belt with a harrumph
 
2011-12-26 06:48:26 PM
Watch a documentary or the like from the seventies - something like Koyaanisqatsi that features lots of crowd shots - no obesity there.
Link (new window)
What's changed since then in our food chain?
Link (new window)
 
2011-12-26 06:53:13 PM
Marcintosh: Watch a documentary or the like from the seventies - something like Koyaanisqatsi that features lots of crowd shots - no obesity there.
Link (new window)
What's changed since then in our food chain?
Link (new window)


That's cause all the obese people now are body builders..

What are we talking about

Let me take my "stack"!!! (ephedra + protein + carbohydrates + Ambien + horse tranquilizer)
 
2011-12-26 06:54:12 PM
scalpod: I remember as a young mayfly when the big glowing spot was on the opposite side of the sky!

/hikes up tiny onion belt with a harrumph


That's modern ephemeroptera for you. Kids these hours!
 
2011-12-26 07:01:43 PM
Marcintosh: Watch a documentary or the like from the seventies - something like Koyaanisqatsi that features lots of crowd shots - no obesity there.
Link (new window)
What's changed since then in our food chain?
Link (new window)


Don't forget that wheat changed too.
 
2011-12-26 07:03:42 PM
SpinStopper: I was talking with a woman who was lamenting the fact that, even though she was completely vegetarian, she still couldn't lose weight.

Was she also incredulous at her cholesterol numbers despite not eating cholesterol?
 
2011-12-26 07:19:28 PM
Because there isn't room for a whole pancreas in their little tiny fly bodies?

I don't know, who cares? They live for about 24 hours, it's not like they're dying of diabeetus.
 
2011-12-26 08:03:45 PM
Treefingers: ...because all they eat is farking fruit?

Yeah. If they were vegetable flies they'd be all set.
 
2011-12-26 09:14:16 PM
Wow ... she actually has an entire copy of her R01 grant on line Link (new window)
 
2011-12-26 09:39:16 PM
I had two slices of "Bacon Steak Cuts" and roasted veggies, so I'm getting a kick from both ends: copious amounts of saturated fat AND produce.

/ever feel gut-busting full on 500 calories?
//it's what happens when you eat nutrient-dense real food
///hint: noodles and bread are neither nutrient-dense nor real
 
2011-12-26 11:47:06 PM
Drosophila melanogaster? Why I hardly....
 
2011-12-26 11:49:50 PM
-ose

/Duff's pancreas exploded from his chronic alcohol abuse (sugar overload), although he did lose his septum to the coke...
 
2011-12-27 01:39:35 AM
damnit i just wrote a grant proposal on the same farking thing...
 
2011-12-27 04:20:19 AM
Because they're not getting any of the fiber.
 
2011-12-27 05:31:30 AM
Fruit's not actually all that good for you, you might want to fire your dietician, subby. Specific fruit has some nutrients that are rare outside of that fruit (citrus fruit especially) but a bacon sandwitch with pineapple doesn't really give you anything your usual bacon sandwich doesn't.
 
2011-12-27 06:06:58 AM
The tiny creatures have helped her:
Win $1.4 million of NIH grant funding for five years.
Employ eight undergraduates and one graduate student engaged in cutting-edge research.


Wait... $1,400,000 / 5 years / 10 people (including her) means ... average of $28,000 per year per person. That's before any costs or overhead (such as the insanely large overhead her university will take). Realistically, no more than half of that can go to salaries, so we're talking about poverty wages for everybody but her; even if the other nine people only work a few hours a week, they can't make more than minimum wage. You earn more than this at McDonald's. Better benefits, too. So the only research money we can scrounge up is for slave labor. Yeah. We really really care about this problem.
 
2011-12-27 11:16:24 AM
Captain Wingo: The tiny creatures have helped her:
Win $1.4 million of NIH grant funding for five years.
Employ eight undergraduates and one graduate student engaged in cutting-edge research.

Wait... $1,400,000 / 5 years / 10 people (including her) means ... average of $28,000 per year per person. That's before any costs or overhead (such as the insanely large overhead her university will take). Realistically, no more than half of that can go to salaries, so we're talking about poverty wages for everybody but her; even if the other nine people only work a few hours a week, they can't make more than minimum wage. You earn more than this at McDonald's. Better benefits, too. So the only research money we can scrounge up is for slave labor. Yeah. We really really care about this problem.


UAB gets to take ~30% off the top ($420,000) which they can spend in whatever way they deem appropriate. Academic researchers are like peasants to the University overlords...
 
2011-12-27 04:33:36 PM
Captain Wingo: The tiny creatures have helped her:
Win $1.4 million of NIH grant funding for five years.
Employ eight undergraduates and one graduate student engaged in cutting-edge research.

Wait... $1,400,000 / 5 years / 10 people (including her) means ... average of $28,000 per year per person. That's before any costs or overhead (such as the insanely large overhead her university will take). Realistically, no more than half of that can go to salaries, so we're talking about poverty wages for everybody but her; even if the other nine people only work a few hours a week, they can't make more than minimum wage. You earn more than this at McDonald's. Better benefits, too. So the only research money we can scrounge up is for slave labor. Yeah. We really really care about this problem.



Except the grant doesn't pay her, UAB does. Also, she'll probably have other grants (if she doesn't,well her career will be short lived) and her undergraduates are slave labor working for credit. Which leaves, $1.4 million/1.3 (overhead) = ~$1 million/5 years = ~$200 000/year. Factor in ~$50 000 for the grad student (tuition + stipend) gives you $150 000/year or ~$1300/student/month for supplies. While this isn't too bad for a bio lab if there's a lot of genetic analyses (qPCR, CHiP, etc), they probably burn that much per student, per week. Yes, the NIH really does care! :D
 
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