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(PhysOrg.com) Interesting Evidence indicates earliest humans lived by rivers and streams. The cans of Really Old Milwaukee were a dead giveaway   (physorg.com) divider line 68
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2011-12-26 02:02:50 PM
this is so counter intuitive that it boggles the mind
 
2011-12-26 02:07:25 PM
Early people living near an easy to access source of fresh water? Inconceivable!
 
2011-12-26 02:07:33 PM
Bucky Katt: this is so counter intuitive that it boggles the mind

Why do you say so, Bucky? Makes perfect sense to me. Most life gravitates toward water. And those deserts weren't always deserts.
 
2011-12-26 02:08:00 PM
Wow, who would have thought that early humans would choose to live near best sources of water, food, defense, travel and sanitation.
 
2011-12-26 02:08:26 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: Bucky Katt: this is so counter intuitive that it boggles the mind

Why do you say so, Bucky? Makes perfect sense to me. Most life gravitates toward water. And those deserts weren't always deserts.


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2011-12-26 02:13:52 PM
Damn - walked right into it, too. Jesus - I'm slipping.
 
2011-12-26 02:16:47 PM
Wow, thank goodness people stopped doing THAT right away.
 
2011-12-26 03:06:25 PM
I wonder if earliest humans breathed air and engaged in coitus for procreation.
 
2011-12-26 03:10:43 PM
Yeah, right. Next you're going to tell me that they ate food too.
 
2011-12-26 03:29:52 PM
I was always a Narragansett bay guy
/more water
 
2011-12-26 03:32:24 PM
Ya think?
 
2011-12-26 03:38:07 PM
I myself prefer to live in an active volcano and have Evian bottles dropped by parachute.
 
2011-12-26 03:45:19 PM
Really? I would have settled by the nearest strip club.
 
2011-12-26 03:45:33 PM
When many people think of our earliest human ancestors, they think of the hot dried out dusty environments in Africa in which many of their remains were found.

Well, for one, I don't know anyone who thinks that. Second, the area of Africa being referred to was quite a lush and vibrant environment back in the day. Third, even a 5 year old can understand the logic of living by fresh water and food, etc etc.

And look at that, I'm not even a sciencematist.
 
2011-12-26 05:11:07 PM
They lived in a van ... down by the river.
 
2011-12-26 05:11:16 PM
www.awesomeoff.com

Did their diets consist of government cheese?
 
2011-12-26 05:16:01 PM
No, no Subby. Dumb humans lived by rivers and streams. While the Natives lived on high ground to avoid being washed away by the yearly floods.
 
2011-12-26 05:17:10 PM
So you're telling me Clonus is behind the dawn of civilization?
 
2011-12-26 05:18:40 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: Damn - walked right into it, too. Jesus - I'm slipping.

Well, at least you're still benevolent.
 
2011-12-26 05:20:41 PM
rmcooper4: So you're telling me Clonus is behind the dawn of civilization?

Came here hoping that someone would post something like that.

Cheers, mammajamma!
 
2011-12-26 05:20:54 PM
Get Lost: No, no Subby. Dumb humans lived by rivers and streams. While the Natives lived on high ground to avoid being washed away by the yearly floods.

Or, if you were early Egyptian, you designed your cities to withstand early flooding of the Nile.
 
2011-12-26 05:25:09 PM
Get Lost: No, no Subby. Dumb humans lived by rivers and streams. While the Natives lived on high ground to avoid being washed away by the yearly floods.

That reminds me: one of my favorite WTF moments of the TV show Survivor came in Australia, when storms blew up while everyone was away doing some dumb challenge or something and it very quickly became obvious that the entire camp had been set up in a flood channel. What made it even weirder was the fact that the camera crew sat there filming the slow and inexorable destruction of the camp for the sake of "good TV".

It's easy to second-guess the dumb white people on Survivor, but I might have missed a dry-season channel if I didn't know what to look for.
 
2011-12-26 05:26:22 PM
Ambivalence: Or, if you were early Egyptian, your alien benefactors designed your cities to withstand early flooding of the Nile.

FTFY.
 
2011-12-26 05:28:50 PM
The confessional told me Milwaukee was a nonsense word and the cans are naturally occurring.
 
2011-12-26 05:31:47 PM
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Quick call the Anthropoligistician.
 
2011-12-26 05:33:24 PM
Reminds me of the Mayan(?) empire and how they irrigated land with natural flows and ditches, until the land rose up and less could be irrigated over the decades/centuries.

/Earth and moving continental plates is such an interesting study for how once lush land near sea level is now at 2000 feet in elevation and weather is now blocked by a mountain range.
//And that section of Africa that is the 'great rift zone'.
 
2011-12-26 05:35:16 PM
i.imgur.com
"I can start a beer can collection!"
 
2011-12-26 05:38:03 PM
Most carcases of animals don't turn into fossils.

One good way to make a fossil is by having it covered by sediments found in rivers, streams, ponds, etc All fossils appear in sediments.or sometimes mud flows or ash falls.

If you find fossils in some location it doesn't mean that the pre-fossils spent most of their time living there.

.
 
2011-12-26 05:39:40 PM
Wow, so many people here assume hunter gatherers never moved their encampments to be out of seasonal flood zones, and then moved back for fishing season or to hunt the animals that came to the river to drink. I don't know why this article is news, since that fact has been in every basic Anthro text book for the last 60 years. Sumerians, Egyptians, Romans, Harrappans, most major cvilizations were started around rivers or some major sources of fresh water, even if, like the Egyptians, they had to get out of the way of the yearly flooding which left behind a rich silt to grow crops in.
 
2011-12-26 05:43:21 PM
Well, the Garden of Eden was right next to 4 rivers, so yeah.

/what, I'm the Weeners this baiting crap in this thread? You're slipping Fark.
 
2011-12-26 05:43:57 PM
weeners
 
2011-12-26 05:54:50 PM
KiplingKat872: Wow, so many people here assume hunter gatherers never moved their encampments to be out of seasonal flood zones, and then moved back for fishing season or to hunt the animals that came to the river to drink. I don't know why this article is news, since that fact has been in every basic Anthro text book for the last 60 years. Sumerians, Egyptians, Romans, Harrappans, most major cvilizations were started around rivers or some major sources of fresh water, even if, like the Egyptians, they had to get out of the way of the yearly flooding which left behind a rich silt to grow crops in.

To be fair, the article is discussing Ardipithecus ramidus, so hunting, fishing, and sedentary settlement aren't really germane to the discussion.

But yeah, this is not news even by Fark standards.
 
2011-12-26 06:01:29 PM
buckshot_bill: "I can start a beer can collection!"

Came here for MST3K, leaving satisfied
 
2011-12-26 06:03:00 PM
buckshot_bill: "I can start a beer can collection!"

*fistbump*


RoxtarRyan: Came here for MST3K, leaving satisfied

Damn right, man!
 
2011-12-26 06:18:45 PM
"What does M-I-L-W-A-U-K-E-E spell?"

It spells $2.99 a case...
 
2011-12-26 06:25:28 PM
Pfft, everyone knows that the air down by the river really isn't very good for you.

/feel a tingle in my little clonus
 
2011-12-26 06:33:52 PM
Well, Biblical Science, has proven otherwise. Early Adam descendants followed dinosaur herds to stay near their food source and preferred to dwell near volcanoes for heat.
 
2011-12-26 06:45:31 PM
Zalan: Early people living near an easy to access source of fresh water? Inconceivable!

And food. Who'd have thunk it?
 
2011-12-26 06:46:13 PM
BarbadoSlim: Well, Biblical Science, has proven otherwise. Early Adam descendants followed dinosaur herds to stay near their food source and preferred to dwell near volcanoes for heat.

Well, that certainly does clear up some of those pesky questions about creation science that I've been having and no mistake.

It still doesn't account for Mormons, however.
 
2011-12-26 06:54:21 PM
Farker Soze: Well, the Garden of Eden was right next to 4 rivers, so yeah.

/what, I'm the Weeners this baiting crap in this thread? You're slipping Fark.


It was also near a flaming sword which turned in all directions. The Nazis think they've found it and we need you to get there ahead of them Jones.
 
2011-12-26 07:04:37 PM
In other news: Future civilizations wonder why people were buried in a concrete boat in a swamp(or desert).
 
2011-12-26 07:19:30 PM
TomServo24: "What does M-I-L-W-A-U-K-E-E spell?"

It spells $2.99 a case...


It's Servo's voice there that makes it work so well!
 
2011-12-26 07:31:57 PM
Get Lost: No, no Subby. Dumb humans lived by rivers and streams. While the Natives lived on high ground to avoid being washed away by the yearly floods.

No, Get Lost. All humans lived near rivers and streams and migrated to high ground during the flood season.
 
2011-12-26 08:08:33 PM
scalpod: a flaming sword which turned in all directions

www.techweekeurope.co.uk

Aliens. Definitely aliens.
 
2011-12-26 08:17:51 PM
Who could possibly be so stupid as to think....

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bucky Katt: this is so counter intuitive that it boggles the mind

Why do you say so, Bucky? Makes perfect sense to me. Most life gravitates toward water. And those deserts weren't always deserts.


Well, there we go. I'm glad this article was written then. Carry on.
 
2011-12-26 08:25:11 PM
Fools. They should have migrated into space and become vacuum farmers and radiation herders. Duh. Thank god we have Elon Musk to show us the Way!
 
2011-12-26 08:26:53 PM
Ric Romeo celebrating kwanzaa?
 
2011-12-26 08:41:23 PM
FloydA: KiplingKat872: Wow, so many people here assume hunter gatherers never moved their encampments to be out of seasonal flood zones, and then moved back for fishing season or to hunt the animals that came to the river to drink. I don't know why this article is news, since that fact has been in every basic Anthro text book for the last 60 years. Sumerians, Egyptians, Romans, Harrappans, most major cvilizations were started around rivers or some major sources of fresh water, even if, like the Egyptians, they had to get out of the way of the yearly flooding which left behind a rich silt to grow crops in.

To be fair, the article is discussing Ardipithecus ramidus, so hunting, fishing, and sedentary settlement aren't really germane to the discussion.

But yeah, this is not news even by Fark standards.


Actually it is news. Despite all the "of course!" In this thread, most primates don't live directly on the edge of waterbodies but further inland, safe with the trees. This species, clearly bipedal, is part of an argument about how bipedalism evolved. Earlier specimens have been put squarely in woodlands, where bipedalism isn't thought to confer enough benefit to evolve alone and therefore must have evolved along with some other trait(s). This specimen, they're saying, was a grassland dweller, far enough into the floodplain and away from the permanent timeline that bipedalism makes sense to have evolved independently of other advantageous traits.
 
2011-12-26 08:46:55 PM
Lone Stranger: They lived in a van ... down by the river.

Should have been the headline.
 
2011-12-26 09:31:52 PM
Mayhem of the Black Underclass: The confessional told me Milwaukee was a nonsense word and the cans are naturally occurring.

Funny, the bartender at the Churchkey told me that only Neanderthals drank Really Old Milwaukee. The Cro Magnons drank Spotted Aurochs.
 
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