Mark 10
Divorce
1 Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.

2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"

3 "What did Moses command you?" he replied.

4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

5 "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied. 6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'[a] 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.'[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."

10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

Mel Gibson = Hypocrite

Because People in power are Stupid: Mark 10
Divorce
1 Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea and across the Jordan. Again crowds of people came to him, and as was his custom, he taught them.

2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"

3 "What did Moses command you?" he replied.

4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

5 "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied. 6 "But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'[a] 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.'[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."

10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

Mel Gibson = Hypocrite

hypocrisy is the least of his problems

So the divorce is final - I wonder if the Church has granted the annulment yet. That'll cost him at least another million, unless they want to keep extorting him for a while. Then they'll hold it up in Curia until he finds some other gal he wants to marry and make him pay through the farking nose for it.

First, I swear to Christ I've seen this headline before.

Second, I thought divorce isn't the sin, remarriage is.

mitchcumstein1: First, I swear to Christ I've seen this headline before.

Second, I thought divorce isn't the sin, remarriage is.

Correct. Divorce takes care of the legal side, and the Church doesn't care. You're married for all eternity unless the Church annuls the marriage - then you're basically saying the marriage was never valid in the first place, which leaves you free to marry again.

I'm sure Gibson's wife and 7 children will be shocked to find out the Church doesn't recognize they were ever married.

But anyway, there is a long process to get a marriage annulled, which can be embarassing, expensive and is a crapshoot if you don't get on the right side of the tribunal. Money can usually grease the wheels - but in particularly public cases, the Church can hold it up for years until the person in question gets so desperate they'll do anything to get the annulment.

I hope the annulment costs him four very, very, bad movies.

Isn't he a member of Opus Dei?

coco ebert: Isn't he a member of Opus Dei?

Yes.

Here's hoping that racist, hypocrite female-beating bastard sheds a lot of tears over that money.

FrancoFile: Like various kings of England...

And other royalty through the ages. And several [amazingly still Catholic] persons of my acquaintance, and my ex-brother-in-law, and a convert lady I knew who wanted to join a convent in her elder years but had to get her non-Catholic marriage annulled first...

It's quite the cash cow for the Church.

rocky_howard: Because People in power are Stupid:

Mel Gibson = Hypocrite

LOL, she's the one who asked for the divorce asswipe.

That doesn't mean that Mr. Holier-Than-Thou, I-Hear-Mass-Every-Day-In-My-Private-Chapel, Look-At-Me-I-Joined-THE-Most-Pious-Group-In-The-Whole-Church, I'll-fark-Anything-That-Moves isn't a hypocrite.

The headline made me think what if Mel Gibson and Joey were to merge.

Oh please. Name a Christian who isn't a hypocrite.

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: So the divorce is final - I wonder if the Church has granted the annulment yet. That'll cost him at least another million, unless they want to keep extorting him for a while. Then they'll hold it up in Curia until he finds some other gal he wants to marry and make him pay through the farking nose for it.

Mel's been hitting up his father's church in LA for years - and they don't recognize the Roman Catholic Papacy. I'm going to go waaaay out on a limb and say he's probably not too concerned with an annulment from Rome.

He's a sedevacantist. Even worse than Rome. They think the Church as it exists now is too liberal and there hasn't been a real pope since Vatican II. I'm guessing his version of Catholic is even less likely to grant him a quick annulment than Rome would be.

EyeBallStu: CravenMorehead: fatalvenom: CravenMorehead: I bet the jews had something to do with this.

They wanted his son back?


I bet they were holding him RANSOM!

No, I think it's just PAYBACK.

He consulted Revelations. It's one of the SIGNS.

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: So the divorce is final - I wonder if the Church has granted the annulment yet. That'll cost him at least another million, unless they want to keep extorting him for a while. Then they'll hold it up in Curia until he finds some other gal he wants to marry and make him pay through the farking nose for it.

Mel's been hitting up his father's church in LA for years - and they don't recognize the Roman Catholic Papacy. I'm going to go waaaay out on a limb and say he's probably not too concerned with an annulment from Rome.

He's a sedevacantist. Even worse than Rome. They think the Church as it exists now is too liberal and there hasn't been a real pope since Vatican II. I'm guessing his version of Catholic is even less likely to grant him a quick annulment than Rome would be.

They tend to be relatively rudderless (I think Mel's father's church is the only one in L.A.) so he can probably get one pretty easily. Just mention the first marriage was conducted in the "vacant" church and boom! - instant annulment. The fact that Gibson money is keeping that church afloat probably doesn't hurt, either.

Yeah, I suppose it could go that way. Or they could get up on their high horse. But you're probably right that the Gibson money will talk louder than their own little private idea of Catholicism. The lack of Magisterium in those churches is actually kind of funny to watch, considering that Catholicism is based on hierarchy.

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: The lack of Magisterium in those churches is actually kind of funny to watch, considering that Catholicism is based on hierarchy.

That's why I think it would be easier to get an annulment. There's usually nothing above their own local church to appeal to - they may as well be a start-up Protestant congregation.

Yeah, but those local churches are more Catholic than.. well, the pope. In their own eyes. I remember reading a book on these characters a while back - within a few years of the movement starting up, there were already several "popes", one of which was elected by his parents and a little old lady down the street.

Comedy gold.

Benevolent Misanthrope: rocky_howard: Because People in power are Stupid:

Mel Gibson = Hypocrite

LOL, she's the one who asked for the divorce asswipe.

That doesn't mean that Mr. Holier-Than-Thou, I-Hear-Mass-Every-Day-In-My-Private-Chapel, Look-At-Me-I-Joined-THE-Most-Pious-Group-In-The-Whole-Church, I'll-fark-Anything-That-Moves isn't a hypocrite.

Couldn't have said it better...

This.

Trackball: Mugato: Oh please. Name a Christian who isn't a hypocrite.

You assume Christian = follows whatever version of the Bible you choose for them to follow.

A lot of people make assumptions about what being a Christian means. A lot of people are wrong.

My favorite argument from Christians, EVER.

"You're a hypocrite."

"How can I be a hypocrite when you don't even know whether my own personal belief includes hookers, blow and murder? Where so you get off saying Christians can't do anything we damn well please?"

Trackball: Mugato: Oh please. Name a Christian who isn't a hypocrite.

You assume Christian = follows whatever version of the Bible you choose for them to follow.

Most don't even follow the ten commandments and I'm pretty sure those are in most of the versions.