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2011-12-26 01:07:16 PM
4 out of 272 million warrants an article?
 
2011-12-26 01:13:03 PM
downstairs: 4 out of 272 million warrants an article?

If it's anything remotely connected to making the planet a better place for everyone? Yes.
 
2011-12-26 01:55:42 PM
FTA: A CFL uses electricity to heat an element in the lamp's base that excites the mercury vapor gas in the coils so that they emit light. When a CFL can no longer produce light, the electronics in its base will still try to function, sometimes leading to overheating, smoke and fire.

Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working? I'm just asking questions.
 
2011-12-26 02:06:15 PM
Bucky Katt: Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working?

You know how much these cost to replace?
 
2011-12-26 02:14:20 PM
Nefarious: Bucky Katt: Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working?

You know how much these cost to replace?


$3, last time I looked. However, that was a few years ago as it has been for-freaking-ever since I went light bulb shopping due to the longevity of CFLs, so the mileage for the luddites who are bound to enter this thread may vary.

We're currently experimenting with one of the Phillips LED bulbs in the office. Works great, I just hate Soft White light temperature.
 
2011-12-26 03:10:45 PM
soze: Nefarious: Bucky Katt: Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working?

You know how much these cost to replace?

$3, last time I looked. However, that was a few years ago as it has been for-freaking-ever since I went light bulb shopping due to the longevity of CFLs, so the mileage for the luddites who are bound to enter this thread may vary.

We're currently experimenting with one of the Phillips LED bulbs in the office. Works great, I just hate Soft White light temperature.


Truth. I have one set of lights in my house that are still incandescent. But that's only because they're on a dimmer and I haven't found CFLs that work well on a rheostat. Other than that, I haven't changed a light bulb in years.
 
2011-12-26 03:24:52 PM
pudding7: Truth. I have one set of lights in my house that are still incandescent. But that's only because they're on a dimmer and I haven't found CFLs that work well on a rheostat. Other than that, I haven't changed a light bulb in years

I'm no expert, but I do believe there are CFL's specifically made for dimmer switches.

I have dimmers in 2 rooms, but I haven't flipped them into CFL yet because they're nice light fixtures, and I really want to make sure I find a non-harsh CFL light.
 
2011-12-26 03:40:29 PM
a CFL bulb touched me at summer camp
 
2011-12-26 04:16:18 PM
Ah see, one instance of something bad happening. Time to reverse-ban cfl lightbulbs.
 
2011-12-26 04:17:43 PM
I work for an environmental non-profit, I recycle like no other, I have a garden and a compost pile, I ride the bus or carpool to work, and I. can't. stand. CFLs.

I wanted to embrace them, I really did. Way back before the ban they were giving them out for free on my campus, and I grabbed 'em up and changed out everything in the house. But they give me awful effing headaches and I don't know why. I think there are at least 4 different types of CFLs in this house (I keep trying to find one I can stand), and the SO is pissed because I keep using the two lamps (and stove light) that happen to have old-school bulbs in them.

If that makes me a luddite, FINE. If that means less headaches-behind-the-eyes I'm fine with it.

/sigh
//my name is SLITG, and I don't like CFLs
 
2011-12-26 04:18:37 PM
"In 2008, the state fire marshal's office office first alerted the fire chiefs that CFLs could smoke" at the end of their life, she said.


What brand and do they like menthols?
 
2011-12-26 04:18:47 PM
ultraholland
a CFL bulb touched me at summer camp

There, there, now. It's OK, just show us on this teddybear where the mean bulb touched you.
 
2011-12-26 04:18:55 PM
I used to be really into the CFL stuff, but over the years reality has shown them to be far less than ideal.

I have had one physically catch fire, but thankfully went out when I cut the power, and at least two others start sparking/smoking enough to make me think that they were going to catch fire. All the others I have ever had have never lasted anywhere remotely close to their advertized lifespan. They often run very hot and discolor often. I am NOT gonna burn my house down to save $100 in electricity.

CFL's are a dead end technology. Too much stuff being crammed into too small a package. LED bulbs are gonna be the future. All the advantages of CFL with none of the downsides, other than perhaps cost. Just give them another decade or so. LED has effectively replaced incandescent in flashlights
 
2011-12-26 04:20:00 PM
downstairs: pudding7: Truth. I have one set of lights in my house that are still incandescent. But that's only because they're on a dimmer and I haven't found CFLs that work well on a rheostat. Other than that, I haven't changed a light bulb in years

I'm no expert, but I do believe there are CFL's specifically made for dimmer switches.

I have dimmers in 2 rooms, but I haven't flipped them into CFL yet because they're nice light fixtures, and I really want to make sure I find a non-harsh CFL light.


There are CFLs specifically made for dimmers. Depending on where you live, you may have to special-order them though.

I found a CFL replacement for a lamp with a three-way switch at my local hardware store.
 
2011-12-26 04:20:12 PM
Nefarious: Bucky Katt: Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working?

You know how much these cost to replace?


Not as much as the LEDs, but I expect their cost to come down over time too.
 
2011-12-26 04:21:09 PM
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2011-12-26 04:22:15 PM
In the early days of CF, I had one burn and nearly cause a house fire. The manufacturer removed every one I had and I sold my silence for some cash. Do NOT put them into fixtures that require them to be upside down when the manufacturer expected them to be installed with the light module on the upside.
 
2011-12-26 04:22:56 PM
Had 2 CFLs burn at my place. Am paranoid as heck around them. I use them only for short time lights such as bathrooms and laundry rooms. All others are regular bulbs.
 
2011-12-26 04:23:27 PM
Isn't Arizona leaving the Union due to not be able to exercise their Constitutional Right to have non Chinese foreign devil made light bulbs?

/Had one burn out a few weeks ago and the slight electronic smoke smell was annoying to find when I didn't see that the light was dead(in a multi-light fixture).
//Once LED light bulbs get cheaper, then will upgrade from CFL's(which last really good).
///Wharblegarblestickuptheass.... CFL's have a tiny bit of mercury in them, that keeps manufacturing in places that have plenty of disposable workers.
 
2011-12-26 04:23:38 PM
AppleOptionEsc: Ah see, one instance of something bad happening. Time to reverse-ban cfl lightbulbs.

Or perhaps simply give the people the choice to chose what they want to use.

You can still light your home with kerosene or candles if you want to, but somehow an incandescent bulb is simply too much.
 
2011-12-26 04:23:42 PM
Bucky Katt: FTA: A CFL uses electricity to heat an element in the lamp's base that excites the mercury vapor gas in the coils so that they emit light. When a CFL can no longer produce light, the electronics in its base will still try to function, sometimes leading to overheating, smoke and fire.

Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working? I'm just asking questions.



I had a CFL in my kitchen fail a few weeks ago. First I've had go. It wasn't near the age they're supposed to last. The base was discolored, but I figured it was a combination of age + heat from the lamp. No smoke or smell. It blinked once, then 5 minutes later permanently went out.

I replaced it immediately (I was cooking), but I don't know what would've happened if the light had been unattended. How/why could the base overheat unless some kind of internal short circuit takes place? Is there a temperature fuse inside like many things?
 
2011-12-26 04:25:44 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto:

If that makes me a luddite, FINE. If that means less headaches-behind-the-eyes I'm fine with it.

/sigh
//my name is SLITG, and I don't like CFLs


I feel your pain. I used to get nasty headaches in my office from the overhead fluorescents. Changed jobs and sorted that out.

We compromised at my house. Most of the table and floor lamps are on CFL's since we use them the most while the ceiling fixtures are still on incandescents. I'm just scheming of good ways to capture the mercury and have a little fun.

And I'm not a environmental freak either. Well here in Alabama I guess I am. We recycle AND have a compost pile. I don't have tires half buried at the end of the driveway though so I guess I'm missing out there.
 
2011-12-26 04:28:23 PM
NEWSFLASH!!!!1!!1!

Electrical things can cause electrical fires.

Everybody panic

More hysteria at 11
 
2011-12-26 04:29:07 PM
FWIW I had one burn out two days ago and it tripped the circuit - nothing important on it but it would have sucked if it was the computer. I am going back to halogen.
 
2011-12-26 04:30:55 PM
One in a million CFLs can overheat to the normal operating temperatures of a 60 watt incandescent. Good god this is what happened in Nazi Germany. Run for your farking life.
 
2011-12-26 04:30:59 PM
downstairs: 4 out of 272 million warrants an article?

We're all going to die, obviously!
 
2011-12-26 04:31:02 PM
pudding7: Truth. I have one set of lights in my house that are still incandescent. But that's only because they're on a dimmer and I haven't found CFLs that work well on a rheostat. Other than that, I haven't changed a light bulb in years.

there are dimmers that work with CFLs and LED bulbs, you just have to get the correct kind.
 
2011-12-26 04:31:08 PM
This is why real Americans use arc lighting in their houses.
 
2011-12-26 04:31:47 PM
radiobiz: StreetlightInTheGhetto:

If that makes me a luddite, FINE. If that means less headaches-behind-the-eyes I'm fine with it.

/sigh
//my name is SLITG, and I don't like CFLs

I feel your pain. I used to get nasty headaches in my office from the overhead fluorescents. Changed jobs and sorted that out.

We compromised at my house. Most of the table and floor lamps are on CFL's since we use them the most while the ceiling fixtures are still on incandescents. I'm just scheming of good ways to capture the mercury and have a little fun.

And I'm not a environmental freak either. Well here in Alabama I guess I am. We recycle AND have a compost pile. I don't have tires half buried at the end of the driveway though so I guess I'm missing out there.


I took the GRE in a place with those overhead florescents. Haven't seen them much since my temping days.

And one... kept flickering... and of course, there was no possible way I could block it from my line of view.

That was great.

/got used to it by the MC, kind of effed up the essay portion
//damn ETS
 
2011-12-26 04:33:00 PM
I've been using CFLs for years now. I've had two separate incidents where the bulbs burst when they fail, sending a tiny flaming ball of something down onto my wood floors. One of these days a $3 CFL is going to win me a new house...
 
2011-12-26 04:33:14 PM
illusionofjoy: There are CFLs specifically made for dimmers. Depending on where you live, you may have to special-order them though.

I found a CFL replacement for a lamp with a three-way switch at my local hardware store


Yeah, I ordered all my CFLs online because I was replacing pretty much the entire house and got bulk discounts.
 
2011-12-26 04:36:28 PM

"It was a CFL that set the fire. Yeah, that's the ticket!"


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2011-12-26 04:40:10 PM
I have a 258 year supply of incandescent bulbs.
 
2011-12-26 04:40:40 PM
exvaxman: In the early days of CF, I had one burn and nearly cause a house fire. The manufacturer removed every one I had and I sold my silence for some cash. Do NOT put them into fixtures that require them to be upside down when the manufacturer expected them to be installed with the light module on the upside.

Not enough cash apparently.

/wonder how many places burned down over the original bulbs?
//quite a lot I venture
 
2011-12-26 04:44:13 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto
I work for an environmental non-profit, I recycle like no other, I have a garden and a compost pile, I ride the bus or carpool to work, and I. can't. stand. CFLs.

I wanted to embrace them, I really did. Way back before the ban they were giving them out for free on my campus, and I grabbed 'em up and changed out everything in the house. But they give me awful effing headaches and I don't know why. I think there are at least 4 different types of CFLs in this house (I keep trying to find one I can stand), and the SO is pissed because I keep using the two lamps (and stove light) that happen to have old-school bulbs in them.

If that makes me a luddite, FINE. If that means less headaches-behind-the-eyes I'm fine with it.

/sigh
//my name is SLITG, and I don't like CFLs


Newsletter?

I concur. Fluorescent light gives me headaches. My mom has had 2 CFL's start fires. I am embracing the LED's myself, or using 40W or 60W tungsten bulbs.
 
2011-12-26 04:44:16 PM
Needless panic sponsored by GE.
 
2011-12-26 04:46:23 PM
Fluorescents supplied on the same phase in the same room will exhibit quite severe stroboscopic effect. To help alleviate this, install one incandescent lamp on the same circuit.
There is now a range of self driven led replacement lamps for most down light fixtures which can be controlled directly by leading or trailing edge dimmer switches.
These are particularly good as replacements for halogen dichroic lamps as you can do away with the transformer and connect directly to mains voltage. This reduces maintenance costs.
These lamps although still expensive will pay for themselves on energy savings alone within eighteen months. Taking into account the cost savings from not replacing lamps (these lamps have a life of 50000 to 1000000 hours) even at today's prices you are on a real winner.
 
2011-12-26 04:47:14 PM
Crosshair
"CFL's are a dead end technology. Too much stuff being crammed into too small a package. LED bulbs are gonna be the future."

Came here to say this. I have a few LED lights and they are OK, but not great. I'm not exactly an environmentalist, but I like going from a 60 watt incandescent to a 17 watt CFL to a 4 watt LED.
 
2011-12-26 04:48:22 PM
bravian: Not enough cash apparently.

Did I mention a manufacturer? That was the deal.
 
2011-12-26 04:49:08 PM
I don't get the issues with CFLs some people claim to have. Either you're buying the cheap-ass bulbs or you should really look into having the power quality in your house checked. Those CFLs might be your canary in the coal mine.
 
2011-12-26 04:50:10 PM
Lone Stranger: What brand and do they like menthols?

Just don't get the ones that say 'lung cancer'!
 
2011-12-26 04:52:35 PM
OMG, AN ELECTRIC DEVICE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO START A FIRE IN MY HOME?!?!
 
2011-12-26 04:55:18 PM
Hey, it's time for the weekly CFL thread. Has anyone mentioned yet that ALL incandescent bulbs are being banned by the Fartdingo administration in a disgusting display of Socialism that would make even Lenin sick to his stomach? And that they contain enough mercury to give everyone cancer in a 50-mile radius?

*gets popcorn and settles in*
 
2011-12-26 04:55:59 PM
illusionofjoy: downstairs: pudding7: Truth. I have one set of lights in my house that are still incandescent. But that's only because they're on a dimmer and I haven't found CFLs that work well on a rheostat. Other than that, I haven't changed a light bulb in years

I'm no expert, but I do believe there are CFL's specifically made for dimmer switches.

I have dimmers in 2 rooms, but I haven't flipped them into CFL yet because they're nice light fixtures, and I really want to make sure I find a non-harsh CFL light.

There are CFLs specifically made for dimmers. Depending on where you live, you may have to special-order them though.

I found a CFL replacement for a lamp with a three-way switch at my local hardware store.


A three way is wired, at the fixture, the same way any other fixture is. You got scammed
 
2011-12-26 04:56:22 PM
Several CFLs burned out on me at the same time when supplied with low voltage for an hour by an electrical fault.

They did not get hot enough to start a fire, but all had discolored bases and fixtures as well.

Incandescents do simply heat up less when given lower voltage rather than worse malfunctions.
 
2011-12-26 04:58:43 PM
I had replaced all the 100 watt bulbs in my unfinished basement two years back. I figured that the 6 fixtures sucked enough juice because they are all on one circuit, so they were all on at that same time. About four months in, one started flickering badly as I was heading back up stairs, so I hit the switch at the bottom of the stairs. I looked back at it and the ballast (if they still call them that) was glowing red. I unscrewed it (at least the bulbs are cool when in use) and put it on the floor. I could smell a hot metal/electrical smell from it. I replaced all the CFL's that day with the trusty old 100 watts. They really aren't made to be used upside down.

I have a huge stash of incandescent bulbs to last me a couple of years, until something better comes along.
 
2011-12-26 04:59:17 PM
SwiftFox: Several CFLs burned out on me at the same time when supplied with low voltage for an hour by an electrical fault.

They did not get hot enough to start a fire, but all had discolored bases and fixtures as well.

Incandescents do simply heat up less when given lower voltage rather than worse malfunctions.


You need to learn Ohms Law. V=IxR
Reduce the voltage and you INCREASE the current. Increase the current and you INCREASE the heat.
 
2011-12-26 04:59:23 PM
A CFL bored the piss out of me one night.
 
2011-12-26 05:02:03 PM
Bucky Katt: FTA: A CFL uses electricity to heat an element in the lamp's base that excites the mercury vapor gas in the coils so that they emit light. When a CFL can no longer produce light, the electronics in its base will still try to function, sometimes leading to overheating, smoke and fire.

Maybe you should replace the bulb when it stops working? I'm just asking questions.


Replace broken light bulbs? What am I, made out of lightbulbs?!
 
2011-12-26 05:02:46 PM
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