Silvara: He says "one day", not like he's quitting tomorrow.

He's already confirmed that he's going to be doing the 50th Anniversary bit, although it's vague as to what that'll entail. Apparently it won't be a single special, but instead a multi-part thing.

GeeksAreMyPeeps: I like a DW link as much as anyone, but really, there should be *something* of substance to discuss.

You're right. Let's make this the Christmas Special thread.

It was so sappy my TV was dripping maple syrup. Predictable, trite, and kinda daft, but I enjoyed it anyway. Also, it has some bizarre canonical implications, what with this being Androzani. Last I checked, it wasn't a snowy, Christmassy wonderland. And the last time the Doctor was there, he regenerated into Colin Baker. I can't imagine him thinking it a nice place to visit.

This About That: Another overpaid Hollywood type can't handle long hours and hard work. Try it without all the money, like the rest of us.

Hollywood?

RexTalionis: Let him devote full time to Sherlock, I say.

Second.

The sooner this rubbish is cancelled the better. You like it across the pond? Why don't you farking pay for it then.

This About That: StrikitRich: Hollywood?

That's right, English Hollywood.

So you mean `ollywood, then.

Stop taking on a ton of other work then.

Just because:

jchic: Oh please please please!! It would be a Boxing Day Miracle!!!

English Major has a new alt?

Mentat: StrikitRich: This About That: Another overpaid Hollywood type can't handle long hours and hard work. Try it without all the money, like the rest of us.

Hollywood?

Forget it, he's rolling.

We all be rollin' this FINE-ass Boxing Day Morning!

What movie?

I hope Tom Baker is in it.

Troll headline is trollish.

He isn't quitting. He's stating "it's stressful working on Doctor Who and, now, Sherlock - I don't get much time off."

In other news, the mirror is just awful at everything.

This About That: StrikitRich: Hollywood?

That's right, English Hollywood.

That's why it says BBC Wales at the end of every show, right?

GeeksAreMyPeeps: t3knomanser: Also, it has some bizarre canonical implications, what with this being Androzani. Last I checked, it wasn't a snowy, Christmassy wonderland. And the last time the Doctor was there, he regenerated into Colin Baker. I can't imagine him thinking it a nice place to visit.

Only the team was from Androzani Major, they weren't on Androzani Major, and The Caves of Androzani took place on Androzani Minor.


Oh, snap.

While I understand that any run has to come to an end, hope it isn't any time TOO soon...

I've been enjoying a lot this couple of series, but better end it while is still (IMO) good.

/Like Moffat and Smith...
//Liked RTD and Tennant, but not as much...

I'll just leave this here. (new window)

Saturn5: I'll just leave this here. (new window)

omg

What does Duke Togo have to do with this thread?

I can't say as I particularly enjoyed last night's episode... but then it was more probably because I wasn't in the right mood to watch that sort of sappy sap.

Regarding the article - I read it as Moffat doesn't want the producer job so much anymore... as the specific quote is that it's not the script writing that's the issue but all the related side projects to Doctor Who.

If at some point he steps down and just keeps doing scripts, that'd just be swell.

BalugaJoe: What does Duke Togo have to do with this thread?

It's a conspiracy

Caeldan: I can't say as I particularly enjoyed last night's episode... but then it was more probably because I wasn't in the right mood to watch that sort of sappy sap.

Regarding the article - I read it as Moffat doesn't want the producer job so much anymore... as the specific quote is that it's not the script writing that's the issue but all the related side projects to Doctor Who.

If at some point he steps down and just keeps doing scripts, that'd just be swell.

Except that's usually the thing producers say to take the edge off leaving the show.

But Moffatt can leave pretty happy. He's given at least three seasons, and that's not too bad for a Doctor Who producer. Stay too long and it tends to dampen the career, or leads to issues that bought forth the original cancellation in the first place. The show lasts so long because the creative team behind it changes as much as the lead.

That said, I wouldn't mind a clean sweep when Moffatt leaves. The Murray Gold music is annoying, and I'm tired of showrunners who have a sexual attraction to the Doctor. There's a certain level of detachment that makes a show work better, and that is really needed in the new series.

t3knomanser: It was so sappy

An episode about pine trees was sappy? You don't say!

GeeksAreMyPeeps: Only the team was from Androzani Major, they weren't on Androzani Major, and The Caves of Androzani took place on Androzani Minor.

They were also harvesting Androzani trees. Now, it's possible that they farmed these trees on a third, unnamed world. And "Caves" took place on both Major and Minor, although the bulk of it was certainly set on Minor.

The next Dr. Who should be jewish.

I was not a big fan of the special. I did not mind the sappiness. I actually thought the idea was great, trying to deal with loss on a day that should be happy. But they ruined it in my opinion by saving the dad. It took away from the little speech the Doctor made to the mother about why the kids should be happy. Also, when did trees learn time travel technology?

The other down point to the special was the lack of the doctor doing anything. He was basically just there to run around and explain things. The companions were not that great either. The only good one was the little girl because she seemed intelligent. The boy had no idea what was going on and the mother was all over the place. And not in a way you would expect someone dealing with tragedy. The potential for the mother to return in the future is not something I am looking forward to.

The slight change in music was good. They have been running with the same background music for two years. I'm hoping they do a new score for the next season.

Moffat will not quit until he finishes the 50th anniversary special. After that, he'd probably take a break. Or maybe cut back on something else to focus on one thing. Whether that is Doctor Who, Sherlock, or another movie.

Troll headline is trolling (successfully, in my case).

I watched the Christmas Special last night and I hope the Steven Moffatt/Matt Smith Who continues for a few more years (we already know their 3rd series is in the bag).

Guntram Shatterhand: The Murray Gold music is annoying

Nah, don't agree at all, he seems to have the knack for using the right kind of music for a scene, I like how he balances orchestral sounds and more electronic ones.

and I'm tired of showrunners who have a sexual attraction to the Doctor

WTF? Moffatt is all over Matt Smith? Really? Or are you projecting what RTD did with David Tennant just to make some bizarre point? I was glad the RTD/Tennant era ended, I actually was starting to root *against* the Doctor, hoping he'd quit with the damned existential whining.

Henry Holland: WTF? Moffatt is all over Matt Smith? Really?

I'm not going to say Moffat has something for Matt Smith, or the Doctor character, but one thing I'd like to see finally is the fate of the universe NOT depending upon the Doctor's love life.

I'd like a nice male companion, or an alien, or someone who doesn't totally get starry-eyed over the 'ol Doctor. Hell, I liked River up until she was all "if I kill you, I'll suffer MORE than ANYONE in the UNIVERSE EVER EVER EVER!"

/I have the same issues with the Doctor and love-interest companions as I do with Bella/Edward

salvador.hardin: In other news, the mirror is just awful at everything.

Bingo. It's one of the few papers which out-fails the Daily Fail.

Moffat is a self-confessed workaholic (I'll avoid mention of the Scottish national stereotype). He created Sherlock SPECIFICALLY so he'd have something to do while Doctor Who was between series (it also serves the added benefit of keeping the Who team employed year-round).

Yes, he says he'll quite one day, but that day is far off. Or he'll eventually drop dead of a heart attack while working, which isn't a bad way to go if you're doing what you love.

Personally, I would like to see him sink the movie deal, just because I think a Who movie is a bad idea.

And don't forget that he also scripted the Tintin movie, though I think his screenplay was written before he took over running Doctor Who. I'd expect him to move into making feature films when he does eventually tire of Doctor Who.

HopScotchNSoda: Yes, Donna threw herself at Jack as well and he's white, but the statements by supposedly straight farkers who are willing to cross sides for him suggests that he's an exception.

Oh, come on!



Seriously...try saying no!

HopScotchNSoda: *Yes, Donna threw herself at Jack as well and he's white, but the statements by supposedly straight farkers who are willing to cross sides for him suggests that he's an exception.

Everyone's gay for Jack.

Bloody William: HopScotchNSoda: *Yes, Donna threw herself at Jack as well and he's white, but the statements by supposedly straight farkers who are willing to cross sides for him suggests that he's an exception.

Everyone's gay for Jack.

I'd be gay if it meant I could get a piece of that action.

/straight female, but willing to negotiate