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2011-12-25 09:18:02 PM
dumb, dumber, dumber and dumbest
 
2011-12-25 09:19:53 PM
I hope the shell was full of rock salt.
 
2011-12-25 09:21:48 PM
I love Darwinistic gun owners, we need more of them.
 
2011-12-25 09:25:54 PM
As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.
 
2011-12-25 09:43:03 PM
simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

I dont even need to own a gun to despise idiots like this.
 
2011-12-25 09:47:06 PM
Inman. Nazari.

TERRORIST NAMES!
 
2011-12-25 09:49:49 PM
simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

If you can cook dinner with a knife and not kill your whole family in a fire or chop your own head off, you can look down on these guys.

I mean come on, of all the guns on market today, a shotgun is the ONLY one that EVERYONE knows how to unload safely. Even kids as young as six can figure it out and do it well.
 
2011-12-25 09:52:19 PM
namatad: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

I dont even need to own a gun to despise idiots like this.


True enough. But I wanted to say that before this thread follows the usual path.
 
2011-12-25 09:53:30 PM
doglover: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

If you can cook dinner with a knife and not kill your whole family in a fire or chop your own head off, you can look down on these guys.

I mean come on, of all the guns on market today, a shotgun is the ONLY one that EVERYONE knows how to unload safely. Even kids as young as six can figure it out and do it well.


My point. And no safety?
 
2011-12-25 09:57:50 PM
simplicimus: And no safety?

Safeties are unreliable. Sure, cops carry a loaded gun at all times or they get shiatcanned, but they also occasionally shoot themselves.

If you wanna take a picture with a gun, unload it or don't pass it. Simple rules. Same with any automatically projecting weapon like a crossbow or a spring action cannon.

A blowgun or sling or simple bow you can play with as it requires input to get the motion started. Even then, you oughn't.
 
2011-12-25 10:38:12 PM
GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.


Restrictions only apply to people who pass a background check and legally buy guns. Others, not so much.
 
2011-12-25 10:44:54 PM
GAT_00: simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.

Restrictions only apply to people who pass a background check and legally buy guns. Others, not so much.

These are the kind of people who you think should be allowed to buy guns? If you can't take a farking picture with one, you're a threat to public health with one. I think this has been proved pretty well here.


One was a convicted felon.
RTFA
 
2011-12-25 10:46:02 PM
What a Rock Island shotgun might look like:
dev.rockislandarmory.com

Huh, didn't know they made anything besides 1911's
 
2011-12-25 11:08:26 PM
GAT_00: 2wolves: One was a convicted felon.
RTFA

I did. I assume the felon owned the gun, but that doesn't say exactly. If the officers found him holding the gun, but not the owner of the house, he could have still been charged with possession, I would think.


If someone there just mentioned to the cops that the felon had held it at one point--that'd be enough to arrest him for that charge.
 
2011-12-25 11:50:31 PM
If they had all had guns, none of this would have happened.
 
2011-12-25 11:55:03 PM
The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: If they had all had guns, none of this would have happened.

If they all had guns, this would be a different headline, probably involving multiple deaths.
 
2011-12-26 12:00:44 AM
GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.


dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

plus with that kind of logic, wouldnt the same argument apply to personal cars, booze and religion??
 
2011-12-26 12:07:56 AM
GAT_00: namatad: dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

Because while they might kill themselves, they also might end up killing children. While some people are willing to let an occasional horrific tragedy happen so everyone can have as many guns as they want, no matter your mental state, I do not.


Same logic would apply to baseball bats, knives, frozen leg of lambs, tools, etc. If we want to kill, we will find a way.
 
2011-12-26 12:14:01 AM
GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.


Well you are wrong, most of us treat our firearms respectfully and lock them up, we also don't break existing restrictions by illegally owning them as felons.
 
2011-12-26 12:14:14 AM
namatad: GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.

dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

plus with that kind of logic, wouldnt the same argument apply to personal cars, booze and religion??


Naah, religious zealots generally kill a lot more innocents (eg - crusades, witch hunts, amerikan conservatives)
 
2011-12-26 12:16:20 AM
GAT_00: This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.

Well, it happened in Illinois which has a requirement that you obtain a license to own a gun (FOID, Firearms Owner ID) to maintain possession of one. Or to buy ammo.

Doubt these guys had one, so I'm not sure what more restrictions would actually get us because these idiots aren't playing by the rules.
 
2011-12-26 12:20:16 AM
GAT_00: If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Only

In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children)

So QFT SFTU and GBTW.
 
2011-12-26 12:31:22 AM
doglover: GAT_00: If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Only

In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children)

So QFT SFTU and GBTW.


How many were gang related? I really don't think you can count the members of the crips junior chapter as children.

Of the other deaths, how many were suicides?
 
2011-12-26 12:40:53 AM
GAT_00: violentsalvation: Well you are wrong, most of us treat our firearms respectfully and lock them up, we also don't break existing restrictions by illegally owning them as felons.

And yet we still have children dying unnecessarily every year. Thousands die every year for no reason. Clearly, where we are now is NOT acceptable. Well, it isn't to me. If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.



Why would that be on my conscience? I have never shot anyone. And my freedom is a lot more important than a "for your own good" authoritarian gun-grab.

But I am legitimately curious what restrictions you would place on guns.
 
2011-12-26 12:44:16 AM
GAT_00: brerrabbit: doglover: GAT_00: If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Only

In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children)

So QFT SFTU and GBTW.

How many were gang related? I really don't think you can count the members of the crips junior chapter as children.

Of the other deaths, how many were suicides?

Ah, I see, it's totally good when black gang members kill each other.


I'm not going to get into the racism shiat, but how many of the deaths were in liberal stronghold municipalities that already shiat all over the 2nd Amendment?
 
2011-12-26 12:49:56 AM
GAT_00: namatad: dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

Because while they might kill themselves, they also might end up killing children. While some people are willing to let an occasional horrific tragedy happen so everyone can have as many guns as they want, no matter your mental state, I do not.


and that is a problem how?
they are most likely to kill their own children.
this would be a win-win scenario

if the goal is to minimize risk, once again, cars, alcohol and tobacco are a much bigger risk.
so until we solve those MUCH larger problems why do we waste time on minor risks ?
 
2011-12-26 01:03:12 AM
GAT_00: brerrabbit: doglover: GAT_00: If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Only

In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children)

So QFT SFTU and GBTW.

How many were gang related? I really don't think you can count the members of the crips junior chapter as children.

Of the other deaths, how many were suicides?

Ah, I see, it's totally good when black gang members kill each other.


Ah I see, you are not acknowledging children being involved in gangs. Really could not give a shiat about race or what particular gang. When a kid picks up a gun with the intention of doing violence to someone, he cannot be considered a child.

Then we can get into the gangs themselves. Even in areas with draconian gun laws, they still own guns. I know, lets make more gun laws for them to ignore.

It's always easy to pick on firearms as the method of violence instead of what is actually causing the violence. An actual real solution takes thought and investment.
 
2011-12-26 01:30:30 AM
GAT_00: violentsalvation: but how many of the deaths were in liberal stronghold municipalities that already shiat all over the 2nd Amendment?

And there are plenty of liberal strongholds who have good gun protection and lower death rates. You can't compare two places on politics only and think that addresses all the issues



Well sure you could, and it would be an interesting study, if it could be done without bias.

but what do you consider: GAT_00: good gun protection

What would you do? What would you change?
 
2011-12-26 02:10:14 AM
Reminds me of the Iowa X-mases of my youth.

*drunk uncle*

Y'all wanna see my guns?

*chorus of drunk uncles*

HELLZ YEAH!

*brap*

Mother, start the car, don't ask any questions just start the got damn car.
 
2011-12-26 03:53:13 AM
GAT_00: doglover: GAT_00: If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Only

In 2007 there were 1520 gun deaths in the 0 through 17 age group (out of 74,340,127 children)

So QFT SFTU and GBTW.

I didn't say 30,000 children dead.


You didn't say much of anything.
 
2011-12-26 05:07:50 AM
GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.


You're wrong. It's as simple is that. Your expectations are incorrect.
 
2011-12-26 05:08:56 AM
photos.qconline.com

And that's all I needed to see to confirm my suspicions.
 
2011-12-26 05:11:51 AM
One less Gun Nut
 
2011-12-26 05:13:17 AM
BravadoGT: If someone there just mentioned to the cops that the felon had held it at one point--that'd be enough to arrest him for that charge.

All they need to prove that is that he potentially COULD have taken it, and he's guilty of constructive possession.
 
2011-12-26 05:14:57 AM
Keep your booger hook off the bang switch.

It really isn't that damn hard.
 
2011-12-26 05:22:28 AM
shop smart, shop s-mart.
 
2011-12-26 05:23:18 AM
Whenever I see Quad City times articles, my first thought is always, "Which state is stupider, Iowa or Illinois?"

Today, Illinois
 
2011-12-26 05:25:51 AM
If you're the type that likes to take pictures of yourself with a gun you're predisposed to tackiness at the very least.
 
2011-12-26 05:34:24 AM
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www.simpsoncrazy.com
 
2011-12-26 05:35:16 AM
BravadoGT: GAT_00: 2wolves: One was a convicted felon.
RTFA

I did. I assume the felon owned the gun, but that doesn't say exactly. If the officers found him holding the gun, but not the owner of the house, he could have still been charged with possession, I would think.

If someone there just mentioned to the cops that the felon had held it at one point--that'd be enough to arrest him for that charge.


There was probably photographic evidence of the guy holding it.
 
2011-12-26 05:42:09 AM
I know I shouldn't be amazed when shiat like this happens, but I still am. I mean seriously how hard is this shiat? Guns are very simple items, you do not have to be a rocket surgeon to operate one. They are not designed to be tough to figure out.

So Sycraft's hints for retards with guns:

1) If you want to take pictures with it, unload it. There's no way to tell in a photo if it is loaded or not. Really, cameras don't have X-ray vision. You can still look "hardcore" even though they aren't bullets in the gun. We'll never know (or care).

2) If you have a reason to keep ammunition in the gun, don't keep one in the chamber when you are messing with it. It won't go bang if there's no round in the chamber. I understand that the commies/Mexicans/government/girl scouts/whatever could break in to your house on a moment's notice because you are so damn important. Not to worry, you can chamber a round in about a third of a second, you'll be fine.

3) Just don't take pictures of your playing with your gun. Seriously, nobody gives a shiat, it doesn't make you look tough.

4) If these rules seem to difficult for you, if you are the kind of person who needs a few tries to lace up their shoes, and so on then just sell your guns. You can buy an airsoft gun if you still want to look tough. Really, you'll be better off without them.
 
2011-12-26 05:47:34 AM
simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.

Restrictions only apply to people who pass a background check and legally buy guns. Others, not so much.


If guns weren't so accessible, they'd be more expensive. More expensive means less people own them. Works for me.
 
2011-12-26 05:52:13 AM
In Alaska we call that natural selection
 
2011-12-26 05:55:25 AM
GAT_00: simplicimus: GAT_00: namatad: dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

Because while they might kill themselves, they also might end up killing children. While some people are willing to let an occasional horrific tragedy happen so everyone can have as many guns as they want, no matter your mental state, I do not.

Same logic would apply to baseball bats, knives, frozen leg of lambs, tools, etc. If we want to kill, we will find a way.

That argument has been made hundreds of times, and it's been bullshiat every time. None of those kill 30,000 a year.

violentsalvation: Well you are wrong, most of us treat our firearms respectfully and lock them up, we also don't break existing restrictions by illegally owning them as felons.

And yet we still have children dying unnecessarily every year. Thousands die every year for no reason. Clearly, where we are now is NOT acceptable. Well, it isn't to me. If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.


That 30,000 number that you are touting is very misleading, because that includes guns. And of that number, 48% are suicides. And do you honestly think that those 14,400 people would not have found another method to kill themselves if they did not have access to guns? If you look at the CDC stats you will see that over 34,000 people each year kill themselves in this country. And based on the before mentioned statistics, that would put the number at less than half by gun. So obviously if people want to kill themselves they will do so, with or without a gun.

Also, how do you feel about alcohol? I assume that you are completely and totally against all forms of recreational alcohol. After all, roughly 20,000 people each year are killed in drunk driving related accidents, and if you think that "30,000" deaths is too many to be able to keep guns then surely an intelligent and rational human would think that 20,000 deaths was too many to be able to drink alcohol.
 
2011-12-26 05:58:57 AM
Mock26: GAT_00: simplicimus: GAT_00: namatad: dont you want idiots like this to kill themselves and their fellow idiots??

Because while they might kill themselves, they also might end up killing children. While some people are willing to let an occasional horrific tragedy happen so everyone can have as many guns as they want, no matter your mental state, I do not.

Same logic would apply to baseball bats, knives, frozen leg of lambs, tools, etc. If we want to kill, we will find a way.

That argument has been made hundreds of times, and it's been bullshiat every time. None of those kill 30,000 a year.

violentsalvation: Well you are wrong, most of us treat our firearms respectfully and lock them up, we also don't break existing restrictions by illegally owning them as felons.

And yet we still have children dying unnecessarily every year. Thousands die every year for no reason. Clearly, where we are now is NOT acceptable. Well, it isn't to me. If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

That 30,000 number that you are touting is very misleading, because that includes guns. And of that number, 48% are suicides. And do you honestly think that those 14,400 people would not have found another method to kill themselves if they did not have access to guns? If you look at the CDC stats you will see that over 34,000 people each year kill themselves in this country. And based on the before mentioned statistics, that would put the number at less than half by gun. So obviously if people want to kill themselves they will do so, with or without a gun.

Also, how do you feel about alcohol? I assume that you are completely and totally against all forms of recreational alcohol. After all, roughly 20,000 people each year are killed in drunk driving related accidents, and if you think that "30,000" deaths is too many to be able to keep guns then surely an intelligent and rational human would think that 20,000 deaths was too many to be able to drink alcohol.


What about car accidents?
 
2011-12-26 06:06:04 AM
GAT_00: And yet we still have children dying unnecessarily every year. Thousands die every year for no reason. Clearly, where we are now is NOT acceptable. Well, it isn't to me. If you think your freedom is worth 30,000 dead every year, good for you. Enjoy that on your conscience.

Just checked Wiki - over half of the deaths (2007 anyway) were suicides. I'm sure another significant portion was criminals killing other criminals. A few were no doubt self-defense.

It's not as bad as you make it sound, especially when you emphasize children and I suspect most were not children.
 
2011-12-26 06:07:15 AM
violentsalvation: Well you are wrong, most of us treat our firearms respectfully and lock them up,

Except for the several people you find in the news every week who shoot their families and themselves after a "barricade situation".
 
2011-12-26 06:07:36 AM
tedbundee: simplicimus: GAT_00: simplicimus: As as a gun owner, I despise idiots like this.

This is more or less what I expect the average gun owners are like, which is why I want restrictions.

Restrictions only apply to people who pass a background check and legally buy guns. Others, not so much.

If guns weren't so accessible, they'd be more expensive. More expensive means less people own them. Works for me.


Crack, meth, etc is expensive. And illegal too-laws out the ass. And it's everywhere. This sort of scumbag will always have guns.
 
2011-12-26 06:08:03 AM
Sposed to unload the weapon before doing weed passes with it and the barrel. Only holds about twenty gallons, and then not even with her 3 inchers on.
 
2011-12-26 06:08:28 AM
OH MY GOD!

Is the floor okay?
 
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