Sleeping Monkey: mikemoto: Note to subby: Most of the "protestors" are upper middle class white kids from the suburbs whose famililies have plenty of cash.

Yeah, their families have plenty of cash because they grew up in an era where unions were strong and the rich paid 90% income taxes. All they are looking for is the same opportunities.

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gaslight: Any good lawyer will tell you that suing people who have no money is a waste of everyone's time.

Agreed, but they're probably doing it as a deterrent, like when the record and motion picture companies sued undocumented downloaders.

Don't worry. If they pay $355 for a Corporate-run free speech class (new window) they can avoid prosecution.

Ahhh, so I see this will be a new tool in the "stifle free speech and dissent" toolbox. Make it so that protesting is a financial burden and boom, you've just cut the legs out from under most protesters. Clever.

adamgreeney: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Bullshiat...most of them have phones,tents AND refrigerators.

They can sue them and take all their ipads

Because we won't stop until no one except the CEOs have anything left...

"OMG, the protestors own refrigerators? How could they be complaining about how the economy is rigged in favor if the wealthy when they aren't utterly destitute themselves?"

The heck they don't - plus it's the 1% that's paying for their food and stuff.

Sleeping Monkey:
For your information most people who are $75K in debt from student loans do NOT have liberal arts degrees.

Yeah, they really are. It's trivially easy for someone to go to an out-of-state college or a good private college, get a degree in pretty much anything, and spend over $20,000 a year. It can run over $50,000 a year in most places.

Let's look at a liberal-arts favorite: UC Berkeley. According to their web page, out of state undergraduate tuition and fees run $18,669.25 per semester. That's not including housing and food, by the way.

You didn't see any of the interviews with OWS protesters, did you? Many of them started out with "I have a degree in" (insert liberal arts subject here), "and I'm $100,000 in debt."

shoegaze99: Ahhh, so I see this will be a new tool in the "stifle free speech and dissent" toolbox. Make it so that protesting is a financial burden and boom, you've just cut the legs out from under most protesters. Clever.

They are free to protest. They are not free to monopolize public resources. Are liberals too dumb to understand supreme court precedent?

Why do farkers hate people who achieve so much? I have 3 1%'ers in my extended family. One was an orphan, one was a farm kid, and one came from your standard blue collar family. And you hate them because they are successful?

Why not go protest the DC government types that allow walstreet to "take advantage of you" instead of being pissed at the business people who just do what any good business person would do and work any angle they can to grow their business. If you bribe a politician to get a good contract I would be more pissed at the politician who has a fiduciary responsibility to the public not the business owner who, quite frankly, owes you nothing.

He accused city leaders of trying to make the Occupy movement a scapegoat and described the intense police response, which involved 1,400 officers, as unnecessary.

"This was a peaceful movement," he said. "They're the ones that decided to use that amount of police, that amount of force."

Yup. The city - and the entire state - is strapped because of poor spending and exorbitant salaries. And they leadership saw this as a way to make some money.

How ethical.

FarkerinMN: Why do farkers hate people who achieve so much? I have 3 1%'ers in my extended family. One was an orphan, one was a farm kid, and one came from your standard blue collar family. And you hate them because they are successful?

Why not go protest the DC government types that allow walstreet to "take advantage of you" instead of being pissed at the business people who just do what any good business person would do and work any angle they can to grow their business. If you bribe a politician to get a good contract I would be more pissed at the politician who has a fiduciary responsibility to the public not the business owner who, quite frankly, owes you nothing.

10/10

cirby: Sleeping Monkey:
For your information most people who are $75K in debt from student loans do NOT have liberal arts degrees.

Yeah, they really are. It's trivially easy for someone to go to an out-of-state college or a good private college, get a degree in pretty much anything, and spend over $20,000 a year. It can run over $50,000 a year in most places.

Let's look at a liberal-arts favorite: UC Berkeley. According to their web page, out of state undergraduate tuition and fees run $18,669.25 per semester. That's not including housing and food, by the way.

You didn't see any of the interviews with OWS protesters, did you? Many of them started out with "I have a degree in" (insert liberal arts subject here), "and I'm $100,000 in debt."


Ever wonder who loaned them $100,000 in the first place, and why?

Related: sub-prime mortgages

Challenge: critical-thinking skills required

gaslight: Any good lawyer will tell you that suing people who have no money is a waste of everyone's time.

Only if you're actually in it for the money, as opposed to...say...making a political point or making problems for a specific group of people.

Mrtraveler01: FarkerinMN: Why do farkers hate people who achieve so much? I have 3 1%'ers in my extended family. One was an orphan, one was a farm kid, and one came from your standard blue collar family. And you hate them because they are successful?

Why not go protest the DC government types that allow walstreet to "take advantage of you" instead of being pissed at the business people who just do what any good business person would do and work any angle they can to grow their business. If you bribe a politician to get a good contract I would be more pissed at the politician who has a fiduciary responsibility to the public not the business owner who, quite frankly, owes you nothing.

10/10

Really? That passes as a 10/10 these days?

/get off my lawn

Sleeping Monkey: mikemoto: Note to subby: Most of the "protestors" are upper middle class white kids from the suburbs whose famililies have plenty of cash.

Yeah, their families have plenty of cash because they grew up in an era where unions were strong and the rich paid 90% income taxes. All they are looking for is the same opportunities.

But that would be socialist. . .or so they say.

You see, nowadays it's "socialism" to do anything that favors the poor or the common man (who are only poor because they choose to be), or is disadvantageous to the rich (who are rich because they are better people than the poor).

FOX News, the RNC, Grover Norquist, and Ayn Rand said so.

/How the fark did the GOP get taken over by a mutant hybrid of Objectivism and Dominionism, two opposing defective philosophies?

Meh, there are always prisons.

No cash? What's your point? Just like all those other frivolous lawsuits in the States where people who obviously can't afford to pay millions for hurting some dimwit's feelings are asked to shell out millions for hurting some dimwit's feelings, let's not only not give them good jobs. Let's ruin them forever with no hope of ever recovering financially... and for a REAL reason. Wow, that would be evil. :)

ClipJoint: Mrtraveler01: FarkerinMN: Why do farkers hate people who achieve so much? I have 3 1%'ers in my extended family. One was an orphan, one was a farm kid, and one came from your standard blue collar family. And you hate them because they are successful?

Why not go protest the DC government types that allow walstreet to "take advantage of you" instead of being pissed at the business people who just do what any good business person would do and work any angle they can to grow their business. If you bribe a politician to get a good contract I would be more pissed at the politician who has a fiduciary responsibility to the public not the business owner who, quite frankly, owes you nothing.

10/10

Really? That passes as a 10/10 these days?

/get off my lawn

What can I say, it's Christmas and I'm in a giving mood.

They stay in $500 night hotels in ny raised about 500k and have iPhones and laptops and tents and gear so they aren't exactly poor.

The cops and towns are such whiny little biatches.
Maybe if the cops did not attack peaceful protesters, the costs would only amount to 6 dozen donuts and some coffees, extra grande.

/And for the towns that did not attack peaceful protesters..... Quit biatching about the cost of having the cops to 'walk the beat', you ignorant morans.

Sleeping Monkey: wee: Sleeping Monkey: More people have no money, hence republicans because they are $75,000 in debt from a useless liberal arts degree from a for-profit "university" and now want someone else to pay for their bad decisions.

Fixed that for you...

Ah, you have no degree huh? Then I guess it's not surprising you have no idea what you're talking about. For your information most people who are $75K in debt from student loans do NOT have liberal arts degrees. Many have degrees in law, doctorates, computer science, marketing, business, etc. The problem is that they work in industries where executives make 37% raises a year while they get 2% raises a year. Because, this is what happens when unions are diminished and workers have no representation. The parasites at the top take it all.

Wait you got a raise this year? Your brown nosing must be world class.
/state worker

If they cannot pay the fines then confiscate their possessions (such as ipods and computers and all that), and if they have no possession or not enough then toss them in jail for a while.

I may be racking up debt going to Boston U, but I do not regret for a day getting out of Los Angeles.

Their city council recently voted on some new law that would limit corporate donations to political campaigns or something. Good for them, but it changes nothing. If LA does one thing well, it's the empty gesture.

The city created the cost themselves by a) bringing in WAY more cops than were needed and mismanaging their schedules in such a way that resulted in massive overtime and b) forcibly removing the protestors without giving them a chance to gather up their things and clean up.

There was another Occupy location that was complaining about the cost of "damage" (I forget where but it was on fark a few weeks ago). We all easily concluded that the they were greatly inflating the estimate (ie: tacking on regular maintenance and repairs that needed to be done BEFORE the protest and using the highest possible numbers that crooked contractors would quote). A bunch of people and businesses donated money for the repairs AND they had a bunch of volunteers willing to come in and help. A third of the volunteers were people who ACTUALLY participated in the protests... but no, the city just wanted to play squeaky wheel to get more money while demonizing the protesters.

Sickening.

Oops. Forgot to add this:

:-D

SilentStrider: GAT_00: ZAZ: Weaver95: how do you sue an amorphous group with no identifiable core leader?

They are "joint tortfeasors." The common law rule would allow any one of them to be sued for the damage done by all of them. California may have altered this rule.

Alternatively, sue the ones they arrested when they raided the protest.

But, as submitter pointed out, they have no money. So they can be sued all the city wants, but good luck trying to collect.

In other news, the City of Los Angeles will be handing out 'slightly used' iPads and iPhones to city employees.

Wamphyr: In other news, the City of Los Angeles will be handing out 'slightly used' iPads and iPhones to city employees.

I bet the cops scored some primo weed too.