I rather liked the Venom card.

simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

Remove everything from that card except the spies and it's awesome.

The Marvel just looks like a standard ad while the DC looks more like an in-house thing which makes it seem more intimate and therefore appropriate for season's greetings.
Marvel's just looks like, "Hey, buy our stuff."

Mugato: The DC card is a mess. I didn't even know what I was looking at for a minute besides WW and Spy vs Spy.

That kinda lack of observation will be the Death of you...

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: The Marvel just looks like a standard ad while the DC looks more like an in-house thing which makes it seem more intimate and therefore appropriate for season's greetings.
Marvel's just looks like, "Hey, buy our stuff."

Right?

Talk about lazy. Looks like they took pre-drawn stuff, framed it, and put some 2nd yr art student typeface on it. #FAIL

Why is marvel punching christmas?

ugarte: Why is marvel punching christmas?

At least Marvel's wasn't some low detail drawing done by someone trying to be cool. I'm sorry, that art style is unattractive, to say the least.

Sillygoth: At least Marvel's wasn't some low detail drawing done by someone trying to be cool.

Not enough pouches?

Subtle_Canary: Mugato: The DC card is a mess. I didn't even know what I was looking at for a minute besides WW and Spy vs Spy.

That kinda lack of observation will be the Death of you...

I see how you earned your handle.

simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

If you're talking about Bachalo/Ramos style art, I agree I definitely don't prefer it to tradition American comic art. Those types of artists don't appear to be super common at DC though. The only guy I can think of off hand that uses that style of art is Francis Manapul who is doing Flash right now.

Even though I don't prefer it I think both companies are doing a pretty good job keeping those artists on the type of books where they fit, like Bachalo is on the lighthearted, goofier Wolverine and the X-Men right now and that's one of the most fun books they are putting out.

My favorite

LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

simplicimus: Knara: LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

If I want to buy anime, I buy anime. If I want a comic, I don't want anime wannabe.

Anime = animation
Manga = comic books

That's pretty much the direct translation, btw (anime is a loan word from english that came back around again, at that).

There is no "anime style" or "manga style" any more than there is an "American" comic book style (and if you think there is one, you haven't read enough of either to have an educated opinion).

Harley Quinn's "Santa Baby" on teh yootoobes puts all this to shame.

Knara: simplicimus: Knara: LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

If I want to buy anime, I buy anime. If I want a comic, I don't want anime wannabe.

Anime = animation
Manga = comic books

That's pretty much the direct translation, btw (anime is a loan word from english that came back around again, at that).

There is no "anime style" or "manga style" any more than there is an "American" comic book style (and if you think there is one, you haven't read enough of either to have an educated opinion).

I'm not getting in a nerd fight on Christmas, but you really think there's no "anime/manga" style art? Why do many characters have huge eyes and ridiculous hair, and almost all are androgynous to an absurd degree. Not to mention overly sexed up kids and reaction shots. What about the similarities of mechs and robotech styles? Oversized weapons that no one could possibly lift?

MoronLessOff: Remove everything from that card except the spies and it's awesome.

^. They totally made the card worth having been seen.

The Gentleman Caller: Knara: simplicimus: Knara: LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

If I want to buy anime, I buy anime. If I want a comic, I don't want anime wannabe.

Anime = animation
Manga = comic books

That's pretty much the direct translation, btw (anime is a loan word from english that came back around again, at that).

There is no "anime style" or "manga style" any more than there is an "American" comic book style (and if you think there is one, you haven't read enough of either to have an educated opinion).

I'm not getting in a nerd fight on Christmas, but you really think there's no "anime/manga" style art? Why do many characters have huge eyes and ridiculous hair, and almost all are androgynous to an absurd degree. Not to mention overly sexed up kids and reaction shots. What about the similarities of mechs and robotech styles? Oversized weapons that no one could possibly lift?


You clearly know nothing about _________. The stylistic span of ________ reaches all possible variations and you just aren't sufficiently broad-minded to notice that, and your attempts to generalize about ________ demonstrate that.

And furthermore, people who like __________ ARE NOT NERDS!!!!! We are just as diverse and interesting as __________ itself!

The Gentleman Caller: I'm not getting in a nerd fight on Christmas, but you really think there's no "anime/manga" style art?

There is certainly no one style, and this is coming from someone who thinks that japanophilia is terribly lame, and moste fan-beloved animes/mangas are terribly over-rated. There's a lot of artistic variation, and you're focusing on a handful of tropes from the lowest tier examples of the media.

All that said: this conversation is incredibly off topic, because the art style in the DC card was not in any way "anime-like". There's this trend that anything that doesn't look like Silver-age comics or Hanna Barbara animation is "anime". It isn't. And it's still okay to not like it, but understand why you don't like something. Don't just slap a label on it.

All of that said, the DC card, art-style aside, looks like it was made by an artist who was hoping to have fun. The Marvel card looks like it was made by a marketing droid in five minutes in photoshop using stock art they have on hand for exactly that purpose.

A better Marvel Christmas card (unofficial; wish I could remember the artist's name):

simplicimus: Knara: LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

If I want to buy anime, I buy anime. If I want a comic, I don't want anime wannabe.

This just in. No art should ever borrow from any other related art for any reason. Doing the exact same thing for decades with no deviation is the proper way to be creative.

Sillygoth: At least Marvel's wasn't some low detail drawing done by someone trying to be cool. I'm sorry, that art style is unattractive, to say the least.

It's a lighthearted holiday drawing. Having it full of rippling muscles, pissed off expressions, and pouches would be out of place. I.E. what Marvel phoned in.

simplicimus: Not if the end result is fugly art, like the DC card.

I like the DC card. It fits what it's for. Fugly though? Eh, there's no accounting for taste.

/inb4 you say the same thing.

CT Zeal: A better Marvel Christmas card (unofficial; wish I could remember the artist's name):

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Nothing with Deadpool is better. Ever.

While I would agree there isn't much difference between American and Japanese styles, there definitely used to be. Hence the "maybe I'm old" comment. When the Japanese stuff started creeping in is when I started to lose interest in comics. I'm thinking I must have stopped reading before Knara started.

Christian Bale: The Gentleman Caller: Knara: simplicimus: Knara: LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

You're just old.

If I want to buy anime, I buy anime. If I want a comic, I don't want anime wannabe.

Anime = animation
Manga = comic books

That's pretty much the direct translation, btw (anime is a loan word from english that came back around again, at that).

There is no "anime style" or "manga style" any more than there is an "American" comic book style (and if you think there is one, you haven't read enough of either to have an educated opinion).

I'm not getting in a nerd fight on Christmas, but you really think there's no "anime/manga" style art? Why do many characters have huge eyes and ridiculous hair, and almost all are androgynous to an absurd degree. Not to mention overly sexed up kids and reaction shots. What about the similarities of mechs and robotech styles? Oversized weapons that no one could possibly lift?


You clearly know nothing about _________. The stylistic span of ________ reaches all possible variations and you just aren't sufficiently broad-minded to notice that, and your attempts to generalize about ________ demonstrate that.

And furthermore, people who like __________ ARE NOT NERDS!!!!! We are just as diverse and interesting as __________ itself!



Damn. I've never looked at ________ that way before! Thanks! (and I'm stealing that)

LDM90: simplicimus: The art style in the DC card, which Marvel also adopted for some of their comics, is why I quit buying comics. It's just annoying to me.

Yeah I was ready for that anime crap to be over about 5 minutes after it started. Maybe I'm just old.

Yep. You are.

LDM90: While I would agree there isn't much difference between American and Japanese styles, there definitely used to be. Hence the "maybe I'm old" comment. When the Japanese stuff started creeping in is when I started to lose interest in comics. I'm thinking I must have stopped reading before Knara started.

You sound old, white, afraid of change, and xenophobic. So... you sound Republican.

No argument here, DC fits the playful childlike spirit of Christmas, Marvel is just... punching Christmas alright.

TotesCrayCray: You sound old, white, afraid of change, and xenophobic. So... you sound Republican Japanese.

DeltaPunch: [i226.photobucket.com image 576x864]


/i think that "manga style" isn't totally incorrect, though
//which is opposition to the image i just posted
/// but not totally

In response to that picture, it's because "effort".

Your name is TotesCrayCray. Your argument is invalid.

DeltaPunch: snip

Your two examples of non-Japanese Japanese art look Japanese to me.

ArcadianRefugee: CT Zeal: A better Marvel Christmas card (unofficial; wish I could remember the artist's name):

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Nothing with Deadpool is better. Ever.

For that blasphemy you shall be sentenced to chimichanga.

/chimichanga

Here's a great Christmas comic:

DeltaPunch: [i226.photobucket.com image 576x864]


/i think that "manga style" isn't totally incorrect, though
//which is opposition to the image i just posted
/// but not totally

Good call.

Anyone saying Buronson is the same as Ogure Ito is the same as Masami Kurumada is a fool.

Now here's why manga is manga and anime is anime:

It has nothing or little to do with the figures themselves (big eyes? Really? They got that shiat from Disney.... Mickey Mouse has GIGANTIC eyes)

It has all or most to do with direction. Composition, panelling, camera shots, scope, etc. THAT's what defines a manga/anime as distinct from a western cartoon.

Fun Fact #1: Most american cartoons were animated in Japan/Korea: Thundercats, GI Joe, Transformers, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League, Young Justice, etc. It doesn't make them "anime" because they don't follow the tropes and or direction of the style. Not that it matters though, since Japanese people don't really make a distinction and call every cartoon anime.

Fun Fact #2: In the 70s/80s/early90s most Japanese anime was a tad realistic. The hyperstilization came in the late 90s/2000s. So it's not a matter of "whaaa, Japanimation has infected my precious Americartoons!!" but more like a sum of different factors. Especially these two: (1) it's easier to animate stuff if you don't try to rigidly commit to a realistic template and (2) people, both creators and consumers, want more expression. The artists imprint their personal tastes to their ouvre and everybody's better off. It's why we have non-sensical, goofy-looking but ultimately good stuff such as SpongeBob, Billy & Mandy, Foster Mansion, PowerPuffGirls, Dexter'sLab, etc.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Not enough pouches?

Feet too big, marginal or no nose.

jingks: TotesCrayCray: You sound old, white, afraid of change, and xenophobic. So... you sound Republican Japanese.

Heh.

LDM90: Your name is TotesCrayCray. Your argument is invalid.

It's a sad state of affairs when those who admit to being crazy make more sense than those who think that they're normal.

rocky_howard: anime is anime:

It has nothing or little to do with the figures themselves (big eyes? Really? They got that shiat from Disney.... Mickey Mouse has GIGANTIC eyes)

It has all or most to do with direction. Composition, panelling, camera shots, scope, etc. THAT's what defines a manga/anime as distinct from a western cartoon.

Fun Fact #1: Most american cartoons were animated in Japan/Korea: Thundercats, GI Joe, Transformers, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League, Young Justice, etc. It doesn't make them "anime" because they don't follow the tropes and or direction of the style. Not that it matters though, since Japanese people don't really make a distinction and call every cartoon anime.

Samurai
Jack

Darbus: Samurai
Jack

Huh? Are you making some kind of point there?

DeltaPunch: [i226.photobucket.com image 576x864]


/i think that "manga style" isn't totally incorrect, though
//which is opposition to the image i just posted
/// but not totally

Its almost like when cultures begin to share art styles they begin to blend and change.


Also I shall now state my opinions on various art styles as if they are fact!

Spy Vs Spy is drawn cool, but has never once been the slightest bit intruiging to read.

I'd rather look at some cool superheros punching stuff, personally.