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2011-12-24 08:26:12 AM
I can't see this holding up on appeal.Too much money for a little bump on the head.

/Starbucks should've offered him free coffee for life
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-24 08:37:09 AM
Mark Ratner

Do California appeals courts like to alter jury verdicts that way?
 
2011-12-24 08:54:40 AM
ZAZ: Mark Ratner

Do California appeals courts like to alter jury verdicts that way?


I'm not a lawyer, but 8.5 million for a concussion seems a bit outrageous. It' s not like the guy is paralyzed. Judges typically reduce a jury's award regardless of the state.
 
2011-12-24 12:15:16 PM
California?

Hmmmm.

Didn't see that one coming.
 
2011-12-24 12:20:07 PM
Zaccaglin alleged that he suffered complications stemming from the fall and was unable to return to work as a chiropractor.

Yet, I would be willing to bet he would have promised someone else that coming to him would eventually rehabilitate them. All it will take is 3 visits a week for the rest of their lives.
 
2011-12-24 12:23:10 PM
The Angry Hand of God: Zaccaglin alleged that he suffered complications stemming from the fall and was unable to return to work as a chiropractor.

Yet, I would be willing to bet he would have promised someone else that coming to him would eventually rehabilitate them. All it will take is 3 visits a week for the rest of their lives.


Scammers gonna scam.
 
2011-12-24 12:23:15 PM
Mark Ratner: I can't see this holding up on appeal.Too much money for a little bump on the head.

/Starbucks should've offered him free coffee for life


img64.imageshack.us

/ Only works for burns
 
2011-12-24 12:24:03 PM
Too much money, should have been in the $800,000 range max!!
 
2011-12-24 12:24:51 PM
witnesses at the scene said a manager had just mopped the area where Zaccaglin slipped and also said that that employee later apologized for not "dry mopping."

I imagine that, sooner or later, more companies will wise up and start training their bottom-rung employees to not immediately accept blame for potential tort situations.
 
2011-12-24 12:25:12 PM
Man and animal alike, have been walking over and through wet terrain since the dawn of time. Keeping ones balance is a personal responsibly and basic motor skill. This Bozo should be paying Starbucks for loss of sales while they cleaned up the mess he made.

My guess is he saw the freshly mopped floor and knowingly pursued "his payday".

/scam artists
 
2011-12-24 12:26:05 PM
And wait a minute. Subby is telling us that because the plaintiff conked his head, now Mr. Winky is Mr. Shrinky?

/ does not compute
 
2011-12-24 12:26:38 PM
Apache chief can no longer grow.

images.wikia.com


/Harvey Birdman will take the case
 
2011-12-24 12:28:59 PM
BlockBug
Too much money, should have been in the $800,000 range max!!

800 k.. for a bump on the head? If you're serious, you're the problem.



The problem with juries is you have 12 fools too stupid to get out of jury duty.

/// and an idiot.
 
2011-12-24 12:31:02 PM
This article is intentionally leaving out the injuries to make the damages seem outrageous. When goggling another source the guy's damages are really in line with what they should be.

He was a chiropractor who cannot work any more as he now suffers permanent brain injuries which makes him unable to make an income using his skills. Starbucks has to pay for that loss of income. His existing medical expenses and future medical expenses are going to be pretty high as well as rehabilitation and loss of enjoyment of life since he is now in a diminished state. He also now suffers from permanent severe headaches and physical side affects form the medication he must take for life.

This article smelled fishy when the wife was awarded a large consortium damage. You only get those when the relationship cannot exist on the same footing as it did before. The guy can no longer perform his martial so their marriage is severely diminished.
 
2011-12-24 12:33:15 PM
Mark Ratner: I can't see this holding up on appeal.Too much money for a little bump on the head.

/Starbucks should've offered him free coffee for life


Factoring in inflation, that's about $7.5 mil.
 
2011-12-24 12:33:55 PM
If he had managed to spill his coffee on his cawk during the fall, he could have gotten $10 million.
 
2011-12-24 12:34:02 PM
The Angry Hand of God: Yet, I would be willing to bet he would have promised someone else that coming to him would eventually rehabilitate them. All it will take is 3 visits a week for the rest of their lives.

Yep. If he was one of those "chiropractic can cure anything" assholes, this story would have easily qualified for the IRONIC tag.

Most likely, he had a dwindling or not clientele, since with the economy in the shiatter people are realizing they can do without an "adjustment" for $100+ and can just get their wife or husband to give them a backrub.
 
2011-12-24 12:35:11 PM
People die from slips and falls. It's the most common type of accidental injury. Slippery surfaces are part of life. This could have just as easily happened on a slippery sidewalk. That's how Dr. Atkins died. No one to sue then.

From the limited information available, this seems like way too high of a judgment. And that's coming from someone who thought the McDonald's "hot coffee" lawsuit was reasonable.
 
2011-12-24 12:37:18 PM
Zaccaglin alleged that he suffered complications stemming from the fall and was unable to return to work as a chiropractor.

Well, given that chiropracty is quackery, I'm not sure the court should be awarding this guy anything.

/in before "this one poorly designed study regarding idiopathic back pain proves that chiropracty is effective against cancer"
 
2011-12-24 12:41:21 PM
I'm actually curious, is there a price affixed to having sex with your wife? That seems weird. Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?
 
2011-12-24 12:42:17 PM
And all it cost him was a debilitating brain injury! Man that guy struck it rich!
 
2011-12-24 12:43:27 PM
wyltoknow: witnesses at the scene said a manager had just mopped the area where Zaccaglin slipped and also said that that employee later apologized for not "dry mopping."

I imagine that, sooner or later, more companies will wise up and start training their bottom-rung employees to not immediately accept blame for potential tort situations.


We sure as hell were trained that at Wal-Mart and Office-Max. Customer slips and falls? Do nothing, say nothing, call a manager.
 
2011-12-24 12:44:48 PM
mauricecano: This article is intentionally leaving out the injuries to make the damages seem outrageous. When goggling another source the guy's damages are really in line with what they should be.

He was a chiropractor who cannot work any more as he now suffers permanent brain injuries which makes him unable to make an income using his skills. Starbucks has to pay for that loss of income. His existing medical expenses and future medical expenses are going to be pretty high as well as rehabilitation and loss of enjoyment of life since he is now in a diminished state. He also now suffers from permanent severe headaches and physical side affects form the medication he must take for life.

This article smelled fishy when the wife was awarded a large consortium damage. You only get those when the relationship cannot exist on the same footing as it did before. The guy can no longer perform his martial so their marriage is severely diminished.


I think the 8 million dollar number has more to do with the fact that this coffee shop was named starbucks. if this was a mom and pop coffee shop that barely had 100 dollars in the bank, I wonder if they would have held out for this outrageous number. You talk about the extent of his injuries and how it will effect his business. Ok, so he won't be able to trick people into thinking cracking their joints for them is healthy anymore; that is what disability insurance is for. Wherever you go, there is bound to be accidents - that's just life. People can't just go around suing each other for 8 million dollars a pop for the inevitable accident. His coffee wasn't poisoned... he wasn't assaulted by an employee... he tripped and fell, and now thinks he is entitled to something because evidently he's never come into contact with moisture on the ground before in his sheltered life. ridiculous.
 
2011-12-24 12:44:59 PM
The Face Of Oblivion: Well, given that chiropracty is quackery, I'm not sure the court should be awarding this guy anything.

This.

/bloody con-artists.
//and it's chiropractic.
 
2011-12-24 12:46:24 PM
pleasedonttouchme: I'm actually curious, is there a price affixed to having sex with your wife? That seems weird. Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?

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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-24 12:48:47 PM
pleasedonttouchme: Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?

I think that used to be grounds for divorce or annulment before "no fault" divorce.
 
2011-12-24 12:48:52 PM
pleasedonttouchme: I'm actually curious, is there a price affixed to having sex with your wife? That seems weird. Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?

yes $10 for a bj
$30 for any thang u want
 
2011-12-24 12:49:20 PM
depmode98: that is what disability insurance is for.

So instead of him suing Starbucks it would be the insurance company on his behalf.
 
2011-12-24 01:01:25 PM
Cyno01: We sure as hell were trained that at Wal-Mart and Office-Max. Customer slips and falls? Do nothing, say nothing, call a manager.

An old coworker of mine gave a guy his coffee, and the guy came back in a few minutes later to get a new coffee and some towels because his cup had spilled in his car and on his lap. My coworker apologized profusely and said "I must not have put the lid on right." MORON! Very luckily the guy apparently never sought legal action.
 
2011-12-24 01:04:51 PM
Breve, submitter, breve!
 
2011-12-24 01:23:43 PM
Ah, the old "can't fark my wife any more" chestnut.

They should make men pleading this injury have their testicles removed. You'd never see this claim in court ever again.
 
2011-12-24 01:26:58 PM
haywatchthis: pleasedonttouchme: I'm actually curious, is there a price affixed to having sex with your wife? That seems weird. Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?

yes $10 for a bj
$30 for any thang u want


Anything?
 
2011-12-24 01:29:33 PM
I know a few PI lawyers. They usually run from a "slip and fall" case.
 
2011-12-24 01:30:05 PM
If you haven't seen Hot Coffee yet you need to. This article is nothing more then propaganda to get john q public to agree with tort reform.
 
2011-12-24 01:30:25 PM
foo monkey: haywatchthis: pleasedonttouchme: I'm actually curious, is there a price affixed to having sex with your wife? That seems weird. Can men sue their wives if they don't get laid often enough?

yes $10 for a bj
$30 for any thang u want

Anything?


anythang
 
2011-12-24 01:30:31 PM
The lawyer in me has to ask, was there one of these?

2.bp.blogspot.com

If so, could be assumption of the risk. If not, boneheaded employees. Or both.
 
2011-12-24 01:46:47 PM
OWS wins again! Way to stick it to those evil corporations!

American Jurists are some of the most retarded people on the planet. They play lawsuit awards as if it was a lottery. Accidents happen, ALL THE DAMN TIME. Stop asking for multi million dollar payouts because something bad occurred. Life isn't perfect.
 
2011-12-24 01:49:59 PM
Clumsy tool is clumsy, shouldnt be paid for it.
 
2011-12-24 02:04:45 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

What he said...
 
2011-12-24 02:05:45 PM
Zaccaglin alleged that he suffered complications stemming from the fall and was unable to return to work as a chiropractor.

Karma, biatches.
 
2011-12-24 02:11:52 PM
Came for the crackhead from Friday, leaving disappointed.

/we can settle out of court right now for 20 bucks
 
2011-12-24 02:22:36 PM
mauricecano: He was a chiropractor who cannot work any more as he now suffers permanent brain injuries which makes him unable to make an income using his skills. Starbucks has to pay for that loss of income. His existing medical expenses and future medical expenses are going to be pretty high as well as rehabilitation and loss of enjoyment of life since he is now in a diminished state. He also now suffers from permanent severe headaches and physical side affects form the medication he must take for life.

I accept that he may have debilitating injuries. I am however uncomfortably reminded that a friend of mine - who was hit from behind in his car in Pontiac, MI and still suffers from chronic pain and has no payout or recourse - was not lucky enough to get hurt on the property of a big lucrative company.

I'm not saying that the Starbucks employee was not partially at fault (and probably lost his job, poor shmuck), but I think maybe payouts should be uncoupled from who the defendant is, if the liability is minor (it was water, for goodness sake!).

etymxris: From the limited information available, this seems like way too high of a judgment. And that's coming from someone who thought the McDonald's "hot coffee" lawsuit was reasonable.

I agree with both parts of this. :)
 
2011-12-24 02:33:13 PM
evil saltine: depmode98: that is what disability insurance is for.

So instead of him suing Starbucks it would be the insurance company on his behalf.


It's going to be Starbucks' insurance company paying out (once all the appeals are settled) anyway. For all we know it could have been the same company suing itself. The formality happens all the time in auto accidents.
 
2011-12-24 02:35:16 PM
40+ comments in and no +1 for subby?

Good one; should be on the voting list next year.
 
2011-12-24 02:35:30 PM
wyltoknow: Cyno01: We sure as hell were trained that at Wal-Mart and Office-Max. Customer slips and falls? Do nothing, say nothing, call a manager.

An old coworker of mine gave a guy his coffee, and the guy came back in a few minutes later to get a new coffee and some towels because his cup had spilled in his car and on his lap. My coworker apologized profusely and said "I must not have put the lid on right." MORON! Very luckily the guy apparently never sought legal action.


Yeah, it was obviously served pretty cold, since the guy didn't run in screaming about his cock melting off.

The third-degree burned vulva pictures are online, if you want some lulz.
 
2011-12-24 02:42:30 PM
I'll have a sm. cap and 5 or 6 mil. please...
 
2011-12-24 02:48:49 PM
Chiropractor equals quack.
 
2011-12-24 02:57:56 PM
No more Fappuccinos for him!
 
2011-12-24 03:01:23 PM
WhyDon'tWeCare: Chiropractor equals quack.

There's been some similar statements in the thread already, and you know, I was leaning that way in any case...

BUT your post, so full of insightful information and witty commentary has convinced me!

Thank you!

/Say, you didn't slip and hit your head on a cash register lately did you?
 
2011-12-24 03:17:48 PM
Wait... you can get 1 million bucks if someone stops having sex with you?
 
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