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(New York Daily News)   Autistic boy placed in "therapy" bag to control outbursts. In other news, there are 673 teeth on a gym bag zipper   (nydailynews.com) divider line 52
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2011-12-24 01:02:19 AM  
At least it wasn't a colostomy bag.
 
2011-12-24 01:23:48 AM  
At least it was a therapy bag, and not therapey bag.
 
2011-12-24 03:25:09 AM  
All that happened to that kid is that he learned to do his schoolwork.
 
2011-12-24 03:25:43 AM  
The kid's lucky. If I saw something wiggling around inside a zipped up gym bag I would first tenderize it with a baseball bat.
 
2011-12-24 03:33:59 AM  
Wow if a kid would have done it the cops would have been called and the other student would have been charged with assault. I hope they arrest someone in this that was unusual punishment. Zero tollerance for school officals as well. See how they like it.
 
2011-12-24 03:37:17 AM  
Something's in the bag.

MOMMY!!!
 
2011-12-24 03:39:27 AM  
Smells like balls!

/ I so rarely get to post that
 
2011-12-24 03:49:00 AM  
How is it possible that kids can get arrested and expelled for drawing stick figures holding guns, or pointing their fingers at each other while mouthing "bang!" and yet schools can stuff kids into bags without repercussions?

Of course, now that this is national news I'm sure there will be "reprimands" and the forced-resignation of the principal, but that's only after they got caught.

Super Jerks!
 
2011-12-24 03:50:06 AM  
If autistic people weren't such horrible human beings, normal folks wouldn't have to do such things.

/that goes double for autistic kids
 
2011-12-24 04:18:50 AM  
So we are calling retarded rednecks autistic now?
 
2011-12-24 04:27:44 AM  
My cousin is autistic, but not the cute "Rainman" type of autistic. She's beat the shiat out of me for doing things like touching her vacuum. When she freaks out like that my aunt and cousins have to just pin her down until she calms down. It used to be easy when she was a kid, but now she's like 25 and she can really do some damage. I mean how do you restrain someone who bites their arm until it bleeds just for fun?

Not sure I agree with the bag for a kid who just won't do their work, though.
 
2011-12-24 04:32:38 AM  

digitalpirate: My cousin is autistic, but not the cute "Rainman" type of autistic. She's beat the shiat out of me for doing things like touching her vacuum. When she freaks out like that my aunt and cousins have to just pin her down until she calms down. It used to be easy when she was a kid, but now she's like 25 and she can really do some damage. I mean how do you restrain someone who bites their arm until it bleeds just for fun?

Not sure I agree with the bag for a kid who just won't do their work, though.


Are you trying to imply you wish to use the Old Yeller maneuver?
 
2011-12-24 04:36:13 AM  

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: digitalpirate: My cousin is autistic, but not the cute "Rainman" type of autistic. She's beat the shiat out of me for doing things like touching her vacuum. When she freaks out like that my aunt and cousins have to just pin her down until she calms down. It used to be easy when she was a kid, but now she's like 25 and she can really do some damage. I mean how do you restrain someone who bites their arm until it bleeds just for fun?

Not sure I agree with the bag for a kid who just won't do their work, though.

Are you trying to imply you wish to use the Old Yeller maneuver?


No!

For humans, it's Chris Benoit's Crippler Crossface (with pillow).
 
2011-12-24 04:42:16 AM  
I didn't even need to click to know it was Kentucky.
 
2011-12-24 05:02:50 AM  
For anyone who's ever seen Temple Grandin

news.medill.northwestern.edu
 
2011-12-24 05:51:05 AM  

Dadoody: For anyone who's ever seen Temple Grandin

[news.medill.northwestern.edu image 392x524]


Came in for a squeeze.Leaving relaxed.
 
2011-12-24 06:03:06 AM  
Wow. Was the sick tag busy or something? Because this is the most disgusting thing I've seen all week.
 
2011-12-24 06:05:18 AM  
The school's superintendant has a special certificate in special needs education so he should be able to answer all your questions in an informed manner.
 
2011-12-24 06:20:43 AM  
Idiots.

Everybody knows you need sterner stuff for a nine-year-old boy, maybe a reinforced 55 gallon drum.

Yes, with a couple air holes punched in the top - what kind of monster do you think I am anyway?
 
2011-12-24 06:36:56 AM  

SStark: Wow. Was the sick tag busy or something? Because this is the most disgusting thing I've seen all week.


The sickest thing I've read was the 62 year old Ohio man that was arrested for public intox in Florida. They tied him to a chair and pepper sprayed him till he died. Of course a investigation found they didn't do anything wrong. If he didn't want to be pepper sprayed to death why did he get drunk?
 
2011-12-24 06:38:06 AM  
This isn't the first time it has happened? There should be a firing.
 
2011-12-24 06:38:57 AM  

Gulper Eel: Idiots.

Everybody knows you need sterner stuff for a nine-year-old boy, maybe a reinforced 55 gallon drum.

Yes, with a couple air holes punched in the top - what kind of monster do you think I am anyway?


whoops. I didn't realize those were air holes. I thought that's where I was supposed to pump in the pickle juice.
 
2011-12-24 06:40:19 AM  

SStark: Wow. Was the sick tag busy or something? Because this is the most disgusting thing I've seen all week.


This. Calling it a "therapy bag" doesn't make it anything other than what it clearly is: child abuse as means of disciplining. Throw the perpetrators in jail. Goddamn sickening.
 
2011-12-24 06:47:22 AM  
How nice, my old school. I see it hasn't changed much.
 
2011-12-24 07:03:43 AM  

flamingboard: SStark: Wow. Was the sick tag busy or something? Because this is the most disgusting thing I've seen all week.

The sickest thing I've read was the 62 year old Ohio man that was arrested for public intox in Florida. They tied him to a chair and pepper sprayed him till he died. Of course a investigation found they didn't do anything wrong. If he didn't want to be pepper sprayed to death why did he get drunk?


Well, obviously I didn't see that this week. Still, it's up there.
 
2011-12-24 07:19:18 AM  
google shopping search for "autism therapy bag prices":

images3.cpcache.com

/autistic cats?
//there has to be profit in this
 
2011-12-24 07:47:13 AM  
Kid sounds pretty outgoing and talkative for an autistic person. Apparently, it's unusual that he would go to his room and not communicate with anyone after getting home from school.
/ oh, don't forget your pills, kiddo
 
db2
2011-12-24 07:47:38 AM  
"He was to himself, went to his room, was in there all night, didn't communicate with anybody"

Glad to hear he was back to normal so quickly.
 
2011-12-24 07:57:43 AM  
Keep the bag in the corner, if the kid starts acting up again point o it. Do not think you will have any more problems with him. Yes it is never the child's upbringing nope its always oh he has ADHD or Autistic, or allergic to peanuts, he just has a strange affinity to dress up as Judy Garland and ballroom dance with a stuffed alligator to the tune of muskrat love.
 
2011-12-24 08:04:06 AM  

lwpengy: Keep the bag in the corner, if the kid starts acting up again point o it. Do not think you will have any more problems with him. Yes it is never the child's upbringing nope its always oh he has ADHD or Autistic, or allergic to peanuts, he just has a strange affinity to dress up as Judy Garland and ballroom dance with a stuffed alligator to the tune of muskrat love.


There's just something about that last part that doesn't seem right...I mean there's nothing wrong with Judy Garland; but if the kid started dressing like Ethel Merman, we might have a problem.
 
2011-12-24 08:10:07 AM  

lwpengy: Keep the bag in the corner, if the kid starts acting up again point o it.


Strangely, that's almost the exact same way that the now-forbidden corporal punishment method has worked for the millenia previous to our current psychiatric "science" - only it works from a much earlier, more teachable age.
 
2011-12-24 08:23:17 AM  
Seriously, someone at the school needs to zipped up in a gym bag for awhile, and once in the bag, placed in the center turning lane of a busy highway.

Maybe then they'd know the confusion and pants-shiatting terror that kid felt in there.
 
2011-12-24 08:27:51 AM  
One of my kids is autistic. Over the years, I've looked through many catalogs of commercially available tools for the professional autism therapist.

There is no such thing as a "therapy bag."
 
2011-12-24 08:30:59 AM  

Rev. Creflo Baller: There is no such thing as a "therapy bag."


The closest thing I found was The Rapy Bag, which is a kit containing wrist restraints, duct tape and some chloroform.
 
2011-12-24 09:37:28 AM  
Tards shouldn't be in school with normies.
 
2011-12-24 09:44:36 AM  

hicksfa2: lwpengy: Keep the bag in the corner, if the kid starts acting up again point o it. Do not think you will have any more problems with him. Yes it is never the child's upbringing nope its always oh he has ADHD or Autistic, or allergic to peanuts, he just has a strange affinity to dress up as Judy Garland and ballroom dance with a stuffed alligator to the tune of muskrat love.

There's just something about that last part that doesn't seem right...I mean there's nothing wrong with Judy Garland; but if the kid started dressing like Ethel Merman, we might have a problem.


"There's no business like show business"
 
2011-12-24 09:56:11 AM  
Kid behaving badly + call it autism = can't be held responsible for their actions.
 
2011-12-24 09:59:03 AM  

db2: "He was to himself, went to his room, was in there all night, didn't communicate with anybody"
.


You mean like 99% of tweens/teens do? So the parents complaint was that, for ones, he WASN'T bouncing off the walls like Elmo on a bag of crack?

Jesus, this is the most normal thing this kid has ever done. Sounds like the Therapy Bag cured him.
 
2011-12-24 10:25:28 AM  
So if my calculations are correct, if a tooth on a plastic gym bag zipper is about 1/8", then the bag was about 42" long, give or take?
 
2011-12-24 11:13:24 AM  

Dadoody: For anyone who's ever seen Temple Grandin

[news.medill.northwestern.edu image 392x524]


There's a huge difference between using pressure to calm and relax a person, and stuffing someone in a duffel bag to force him/her to do school work. The only time restraints or isolation should be used is if the individual is being violent, it should never be used as a behavioral management tool.
 
2011-12-24 11:20:49 AM  
Did you see the mother? That "therapy bag" was actually the husband's "honeymoon bag".
 
2011-12-24 11:31:54 AM  
I prefer the crazy bucket.
 
2011-12-24 12:36:10 PM  
I've worked with autistic kids in a classroom setting. I was even scratched up pretty bad by one when I was protecting another student from him while he was having an episode. So how did we deal with him? Time out. We separated him from the other students, had one of the aides keep an eye on him and let him cool down until he was back to normal then we put him back in the classroom. No need for "therapy bags" no need for restraints, nothing that could be considered assault or battery. The same goes for any of the other kids that were acting up, you separate them from the group, let them cool down, then put them back in the class,
 
2011-12-24 12:46:37 PM  

scruffy1: I've worked with autistic kids in a classroom setting. I was even scratched up pretty bad by one when I was protecting another student from him while he was having an episode. So how did we deal with him? Time out. We separated him from the other students, had one of the aides keep an eye on him and let him cool down until he was back to normal then we put him back in the classroom. No need for "therapy bags" no need for restraints, nothing that could be considered assault or battery. The same goes for any of the other kids that were acting up, you separate them from the group, let them cool down, then put them back in the class,


Tazer might of been quicker
 
2011-12-24 02:23:20 PM  
You'd think I'd know better than to make me read stories that make me stabby on Fark.

And then you'd think I'd know better than to read the comments.

/Seriously, some of you are getting the Stink Eye right now...
 
2011-12-24 02:50:13 PM  

Pattuq: How is it possible that kids can get arrested and expelled for drawing stick figures holding guns, or pointing their fingers at each other while mouthing "bang!" and yet schools can stuff kids into bags without repercussions?


He didn't have tenure?
 
2011-12-24 06:08:00 PM  

Dadoody: For anyone who's ever seen Temple Grandin

[hugbox.jpg]


Some people with autism find hugboxes, weighted blankets, etc., to be calming. Others get claustrophobic. It sounds like some school staffer heard about the concept and thought a duffel bag made an appropriate one-size-fits-all solution.

If this is standard procedure for students with autism in this school district, then that protocol should be clearly stated so that parents can comment and request modifications as part of the student's IEP. If it was one teacher's decision, then at the very least said teacher shouldn't be teaching special-ed students. Either way, the school district is on the hook for this one.
 
2011-12-24 06:18:03 PM  

PsiChick: You'd think I'd know better than to make me read stories that make me stabby on Fark.

And then you'd think I'd know better than to read the comments.

/Seriously, some of you are getting the Stink Eye right now...


Fark Trolls: Decorating threads for the holidays since 1999.
 
2011-12-24 07:33:40 PM  
I hope all staff involved lose their jobs over this. Their piss poor judgement shows me they pose a danger to students. Get 'em out of there...and anyone who supports them in the admin for that matter.
 
2011-12-25 12:15:34 AM  

PsiChick: You'd think I'd know better than to make me read stories that make me stabby on Fark.

And then you'd think I'd know better than to read the comments.

/Seriously, some of you are getting the Stink Eye right now...


Hey, I'll be the first to agree that tying a kid into a duffel bag is abuse and stunningly horrific. I didn't think there was really much dispute about that in this thread.
 
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