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2011-12-23 07:25:35 PM  
From slide #11: "From the hilltop where we now stand, soldiers of an American machine gun squad had seen the repulsed enemy retire beyond range and then, in plain sight of our men, calmly change form the green uniforms of the North Korean army to the white trousers and blouses of Korean peasants. And then they had walked back into the hills, looking like any of the lines of refugees who on this and every other day come down from the hills, across the paddies and along the roads past our lines and command posts. The soldiers watching from the hill do not forget; they remember the tiny figures in the distance, changing from green to white, every time they see a column of peasants coming toward them, and they reach for their guns, and sometimes they use their guns."

My father served in Korea, and he told me he was at times forced to shoot into groups of civilians who would surge forward. He said you never knew when there were North Koreans dressed as civilians in those groups, who would try to kill American soldiers in suicide attacks while in those groups of civilians. It was one thing which bothered him until he died three years ago. He won two purple hearts, two bronze stars, and a silver star in Korea.
 
2011-12-23 07:25:39 PM  

Novart: Korean War

[wp.ktown213.com image 580x394]

Gonna turn you gay

[www.koreanmovie.com image 385x550]


Really great film, though it gets a little dusty at the end.
 
2011-12-23 07:27:00 PM  

Kittypie070: jackmalice 2011-12-23 07:12:23 PM

[tiny-balled chickenshiat pissant squealing]

Because we realized we didn't need to.

NOW F*CK OFF you filthy death worshiper.


Hi, Kitty,

Two "p"s in "worshipper" cuz they ship brain too, yo.

Word.

;)
 
2011-12-23 07:28:32 PM  

Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.


Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.
 
2011-12-23 07:29:21 PM  

jackmalice: You remember that thing we had about sixty years ago...called the Korean conflict?

Yeah. Where we failed to achieve victory.

How come we didn't cross the 38th parallel...and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China...and take it apart brick by brick...and nuke them back into the farkin' stone age forever?

How come? Tell me?

Why? Say it! Say it!


It would have been bad.
 
2011-12-23 07:30:26 PM  
My Dad served in Korea (Army) as a communications specialist/radio intercept. Apparently usually in the middle of nowhere though he didnt really talk about it. He did mention before he died in June that the destroyed towns in last springs tornados reminded him of Korea, "Towns just obliterated" (his words). And how freezing it was. 4 years US Army 22 years CIA he served.
 
2011-12-23 07:31:44 PM  
img210.imageshack.us

"Man, we're in a tight spot..."
 
2011-12-23 07:31:51 PM  

Githerax: FTFWiki: Data from official Chinese sources, on the other hand, reported that the PVA had suffered 114,000 battle deaths, 34,000 non-battle deaths...

How do you have 20% non-battle deaths in a war? Suicide? That's a heckuva suicide rate.


Murder, starvation
 
2011-12-23 07:33:53 PM  
Shop Wal-Mart, you short sighted ignoramuses.
 
2011-12-23 07:34:00 PM  

Mytch: Bob16: MacArthur was the Rumsfeld of the Korean war.

That jerk should have been put against the wall and shot for his screw ups.

http://www.logarchism.com/2011/12/21/macarthurs-folly/

clip - The Chinese had stated publicly and repeatedly that they would enter the war if United Nations forces pushed north of the 38th Parallel. MacArthur was ordered by the Commander in Chief, President Harry S Truman, not to conduct military operations north of this line without express authorization from Truman.

In violation of this order, in November 1950, MacArthur attempted to push the North Korean forces past the 38th Parallel and to the Yalu River, marking the border between North Korea and China.

MacArthur gambled that that the Chinese would not enter the war. Even if they did, MacArthur felt, the Chinese would be easily defeated. He also gambled that he could violate Truman's direct orders with impunity. He was wrong on all three counts.

It's an interesting topic.

MacArthur was obsessed with winning the war. He tried to convince Truman to allow him to use nuclear arms against the Chinese in order to secure victory, and pulled him out because of it.

However, in South Korea MacArthur is considered a hero who saved Korea by many people. In modern Korea, he's something of a sign of the continuing US presence in Korea. A lot of Koreans had had enough when an American military vehicle ran down and killed two Korean middle school girls and the driver was acquitted of the charges placed on him. There's a MacArther statue that went up after the stalemate (I think in Incheon, where the soldiers landed). People regularly protest at the statue to get it removed because it's a symbol of American occupancy and is an affront to reunification.


Halberstam's book "The Fifties" had some good stuff on MacArthur and the Korean war.
 
2011-12-23 07:34:25 PM  

Broktun: I learned all I needed to know about the Korean War from M*A*S*H*.


Wait...you mean M*A*S*H was based on a real war?
 
2011-12-23 07:35:02 PM  

URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.


Really?

I has a sad.

;(
 
2011-12-23 07:36:02 PM  

Dr.Zom: Dad was in Korea. He never talked about it much other than to say that it wasn't very pleasant. He liked MASH but the Southern California locations bothered him. He said Korea looks more like Kansas.

/cheers, pop


Korea is far to hilly to look anything like Kansas
 
2011-12-23 07:37:31 PM  

Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(


Oh, come on!
 
2011-12-23 07:38:00 PM  

Indubitably: Really?

I has a sad.

;(


Police departments are heavily ex-military, and they have been militarized to sidestep the Constitutional restrictions on what the Army can do, so, yeah.
 
2011-12-23 07:39:52 PM  
Served in Korea 1967 & 68. Cold and nasty in winter, hot in summer. I was less than a mile from the DMZ. My unit was at less than half strength. All the competent NCOs went to Nam. We got what was left. Over 60 GI's were killed or wounded during that period. NK sent 30 infiltrators in SK uniforms to kill the SK president. All were killed or captured.

Then they took the Pueblo. We were on red alert for over a month. It was January. We all thought the North was coming over the hill any day. After that we got more people.

There were many skirmishes along the border.
 
2011-12-23 07:41:57 PM  

Mytch: Bob16: MacArthur was the Rumsfeld of the Korean war.

That jerk should have been put against the wall and shot for his screw ups.

http://www.logarchism.com/2011/12/21/macarthurs-folly/

clip - The Chinese had stated publicly and repeatedly that they would enter the war if United Nations forces pushed north of the 38th Parallel. MacArthur was ordered by the Commander in Chief, President Harry S Truman, not to conduct military operations north of this line without express authorization from Truman.

In violation of this order, in November 1950, MacArthur attempted to push the North Korean forces past the 38th Parallel and to the Yalu River, marking the border between North Korea and China.

MacArthur gambled that that the Chinese would not enter the war. Even if they did, MacArthur felt, the Chinese would be easily defeated. He also gambled that he could violate Truman's direct orders with impunity. He was wrong on all three counts.

It's an interesting topic.

MacArthur was obsessed with winning the war. He tried to convince Truman to allow him to use nuclear arms against the Chinese in order to secure victory, and pulled him out because of it.

However, in South Korea MacArthur is considered a hero who saved Korea by many people. In modern Korea, he's something of a sign of the continuing US presence in Korea. A lot of Koreans had had enough when an American military vehicle ran down and killed two Korean middle school girls and the driver was acquitted of the charges placed on him. There's a MacArther statue that went up after the stalemate (I think in Incheon, where the soldiers landed). People regularly protest at the statue to get it removed because it's a symbol of American occupancy and is an affront to reunification.


That statue is part of the dmz tour if i wasn't on my phone id put a pic of it up
 
2011-12-23 07:42:03 PM  

Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(


P.S. In the event of civil war, the populace will overrun you and then execute you at will should you blindly follow avarice. You will lose, ultimately. Think about that and remember yer peeps. Real ties bind. Real ties matter. They're more important than war, even. If the State asks you to execute your own citizens at will, you are no longer an agent of the State, and you will be fair game for execution too. You will be trumped. ;)
 
2011-12-23 07:44:36 PM  
Forgotten my ass.

Did anyone point out that we still have people serving in this particular conflict?

And that, oh I dunno, one of the most popular TV shows in history was about it?
 
2011-12-23 07:44:51 PM  

Bob16: Mytch: Bob16: MacArthur was the Rumsfeld of the Korean war.

That jerk should have been put against the wall and shot for his screw ups.

http://www.logarchism.com/2011/12/21/macarthurs-folly/

clip - The Chinese had stated publicly and repeatedly that they would enter the war if United Nations forces pushed north of the 38th Parallel. MacArthur was ordered by the Commander in Chief, President Harry S Truman, not to conduct military operations north of this line without express authorization from Truman.

In violation of this order, in November 1950, MacArthur attempted to push the North Korean forces past the 38th Parallel and to the Yalu River, marking the border between North Korea and China.

MacArthur gambled that that the Chinese would not enter the war. Even if they did, MacArthur felt, the Chinese would be easily defeated. He also gambled that he could violate Truman's direct orders with impunity. He was wrong on all three counts.

It's an interesting topic.

MacArthur was obsessed with winning the war. He tried to convince Truman to allow him to use nuclear arms against the Chinese in order to secure victory, and pulled him out because of it.

However, in South Korea MacArthur is considered a hero who saved Korea by many people. In modern Korea, he's something of a sign of the continuing US presence in Korea. A lot of Koreans had had enough when an American military vehicle ran down and killed two Korean middle school girls and the driver was acquitted of the charges placed on him. There's a MacArther statue that went up after the stalemate (I think in Incheon, where the soldiers landed). People regularly protest at the statue to get it removed because it's a symbol of American occupancy and is an affront to reunification.

Halberstam's book "The Fifties" had some good stuff on MacArthur and the Korean war.


I'll have to look into that.
 
2011-12-23 07:45:33 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(

P.S. In the event of civil war, the populace will overrun you and then execute you at will should you blindly follow avarice. You will lose, ultimately. Think about that and remember yer peeps. Real ties bind. Real ties matter. They're more important than war, even. If the State asks you to execute your own citizens at will, you are no longer an agent of the State, and you will be fair game for execution too. You will be trumped. ;)


Heh. You're cute. *pats head*
 
2011-12-23 07:46:13 PM  

SharkTrager: Indubitably: Really?

I has a sad.

;(

Police departments are heavily ex-military, and they have been militarized to sidestep the Constitutional restrictions on what the Army can do, so, yeah.


NSS.
 
2011-12-23 07:47:36 PM  

URAPNIS: Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(

P.S. In the event of civil war, the populace will overrun you and then execute you at will should you blindly follow avarice. You will lose, ultimately. Think about that and remember yer peeps. Real ties bind. Real ties matter. They're more important than war, even. If the State asks you to execute your own citizens at will, you are no longer an agent of the State, and you will be fair game for execution too. You will be trumped. ;)

Heh. You're cute. *pats head*


That's what I've heard.

Met me?

I'm uglier in person.

;)
 
2011-12-23 07:50:27 PM  

Githerax: FTFWiki: Data from official Chinese sources, on the other hand, reported that the PVA had suffered 114,000 battle deaths, 34,000 non-battle deaths...

How do you have 20% non-battle deaths in a war? Suicide? That's a heckuva suicide rate.


Weather and disease. Those two have killed more soldiers than all the swords and bullets put together.
 
2011-12-23 07:52:41 PM  

Coelacanth: Githerax: FTFWiki: Data from official Chinese sources, on the other hand, reported that the PVA had suffered 114,000 battle deaths, 34,000 non-battle deaths...

How do you have 20% non-battle deaths in a war? Suicide? That's a heckuva suicide rate.

Weather and disease. Those two have killed more soldiers than all the swords and bullets put together.


And I hear the weather in No. Korea was particularly brutal on foot soldiers during that conflict.
 
2011-12-23 07:53:29 PM  

walkerhound: A military thread with no [img1.fark.net image 54x11] tag, in my Fark?

Was just wondering about the dearth of Korean War movies out there, and the fact that there were more Korean War casualties than Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

/it's more likely than you think


M*A*S*H* would like a word with you.
 
2011-12-23 07:53:56 PM  
My father served in Korea and got both the Purple Heart and Silver Star....
 
2011-12-23 07:54:51 PM  
Weather and disease. Those two have killed more soldiers than all the swords and bullets put together.

Yep. It wasn't until WWI that more soldiers were killed by the enemy than by disease.
 
2011-12-23 07:57:27 PM  

Indubitably: URAPNIS: Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(

P.S. In the event of civil war, the populace will overrun you and then execute you at will should you blindly follow avarice. You will lose, ultimately. Think about that and remember yer peeps. Real ties bind. Real ties matter. They're more important than war, even. If the State asks you to execute your own citizens at will, you are no longer an agent of the State, and you will be fair game for execution too. You will be trumped. ;)

Heh. You're cute. *pats head*

That's what I've heard.

Met me?

I'm uglier in person.

;)


Should I be forced to quell the unlikely civil war in an official capacity, I am indeed screwed.
Authorized to carry an M9 with 2, 15 round magazines.

Won't get me far. Especially since I would have to fill out paperwork to account for each and every expended round. Pfft.
 
2011-12-23 07:57:35 PM  

Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.


Good troll. You're retarded, but it's a good troll.
 
2011-12-23 08:01:54 PM  

URAPNIS: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Suede head: Soldiers guarantee no such thing. They are hired murderers who would quite happily mow down American citizens as readily as foreigners if ordered to do so and indoctrinated to think they were "the enemies of freedom and democracy". Some of the wars they were ordered to fight were justifiable, many were not, Most of them don't know or care but swallow what they are told.

Agreed. Citizenship is no factor when it comes to thumpin' knots.

Really?

I has a sad.

;(

P.S. In the event of civil war, the populace will overrun you and then execute you at will should you blindly follow avarice. You will lose, ultimately. Think about that and remember yer peeps. Real ties bind. Real ties matter. They're more important than war, even. If the State asks you to execute your own citizens at will, you are no longer an agent of the State, and you will be fair game for execution too. You will be trumped. ;)

Heh. You're cute. *pats head*

That's what I've heard.

Met me?

I'm uglier in person.

;)

Should I be forced to quell the unlikely civil war in an official capacity, I am indeed screwed.
Authorized to carry an M9 with 2, 15 round magazines.

Won't get me far. Especially since I would have to fill out paperwork to account for each and every expended round. Pfft.


Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.

So, stand down.

Yer citizens are the LEAST of your worries...

;)
 
2011-12-23 08:02:22 PM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Forgotten my ass.

Did anyone point out that we still have people serving in this particular conflict?

And that, oh I dunno, one of the most popular TV shows in history was about it?


i7.photobucket.com

Is he right? 'Cause I know that's the *popular* version of what went on there. And a lot of people like to believe that. I wish I could, but I was *there*. I wasn't here in a class room, hoping I was right, thinking about it. I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him;
While pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!

You remember that thing we had about 30 years ago called the Korean conflict? And how we failed to achieve victory? How come we didn't cross the 38th parallel and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China? Then take the farking wall apart brick by brick and nuke them back into the farking stone age forever? Tell me why! How come? Say it! Say it!

All right. I'll say it. 'Cause Truman was too much of a *pussy wimp* to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!

Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.

/can't believe I was first with this.
 
2011-12-23 08:04:16 PM  

Gyrfalcon: And I hear the weather in No. Korea was particularly brutal on foot soldiers during that conflict.


The Chinese attempted an offensive in the middle of winter using outdated maps to get around. They weren't mobilized either. They had to march to get where they wanted to go. A ton of soldiers must've frozen to death everytime their officers had to stop and ask for directions.
 
2011-12-23 08:06:13 PM  
I highly recommend the book MASH by Richard Hooker. The book is hilarious, the movie is a toned down version of the book and the TV series was pretty much an anti-war ad. Understandable in those carefree post Vietnam days, but I never understood why it was ever praised so much.
 
2011-12-23 08:08:18 PM  

Indubitably: Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.


Well, maybe not for "you" per se" but yeah, I can smell what you're cookin'.
;-)
 
2011-12-23 08:12:28 PM  

URAPNIS: Indubitably: Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.

Well, maybe not for "you" per se" but yeah, I can smell what you're cookin'.
;-)


Yeah.

Time will tell.

;)
 
2011-12-23 08:13:01 PM  
Lobster_of_Hate 2011-12-23 06:56:56 PM
blackhonda

My father served in ww2, Korea and Vietnam, 32 years total with 1 year off right after ww2. I am proud of him and will never forget what he did

If I wasn't in recovery, I'd raise a glass to your dad. Merry Christmas to you both.


Nobody likes a quitter
 
2011-12-23 08:14:28 PM  

Indubitably: URAPNIS: Indubitably: Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.

Well, maybe not for "you" per se" but yeah, I can smell what you're cookin'.
;-)

Yeah.

Time will tell.

;)


P.S. Quotation error: yer quote marks are frkked and telling.

P.P.S. You won't be pulling metal for me, apparently? ;)
 
2011-12-23 08:18:11 PM  
the coldest winter by david halberstam is an excellent book on the korean war. jeezus what a terrible, brutal war that was. korean war vets do not get the respect and recognition they truly deserve
 
2011-12-23 08:21:39 PM  

URAPNIS: Should I be forced to quell the unlikely civil war in an official capacity, I am indeed screwed. Authorized to carry an M9 with 2, 15 round magazines.

Won't get me far. Especially since I would have to fill out paperwork to account for each and every expended round. Pfft.


rspublishing.files.wordpress.com

bring it on
 
2011-12-23 08:22:58 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Indubitably: Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.

Well, maybe not for "you" per se" but yeah, I can smell what you're cookin'.
;-)

Yeah.

Time will tell.

;)

P.S. Quotation error: yer quote marks are frkked and telling.

P.P.S. You won't be pulling metal for me, apparently? ;)


Oops.

Of course I will.
My initial comment was made in jest.
 
2011-12-23 08:26:12 PM  

WeenerGord: URAPNIS: Should I be forced to quell the unlikely civil war in an official capacity, I am indeed screwed. Authorized to carry an M9 with 2, 15 round magazines.

Won't get me far. Especially since I would have to fill out paperwork to account for each and every expended round. Pfft.

[rspublishing.files.wordpress.com image 338x425]

bring it on


Pretty much sums it up.
 
2011-12-23 08:30:06 PM  

URAPNIS: WeenerGord: URAPNIS: Should I be forced to quell the unlikely civil war in an official capacity, I am indeed screwed. Authorized to carry an M9 with 2, 15 round magazines.

Won't get me far. Especially since I would have to fill out paperwork to account for each and every expended round. Pfft.

[rspublishing.files.wordpress.com image 338x425]

bring it on

Pretty much sums it up.


www.benzworld.org

come at me bro!
 
2011-12-23 08:30:34 PM  

URAPNIS: Indubitably: Indubitably: URAPNIS: Indubitably: Friend, if it ever actually comes to "That," I suspect you'll be pulling metal for me.

Well, maybe not for "you" per se" but yeah, I can smell what you're cookin'.
;-)

Yeah.

Time will tell.

;)

P.S. Quotation error: yer quote marks are frkked and telling.

P.P.S. You won't be pulling metal for me, apparently? ;)

Oops.

Of course I will.
My initial comment was made in jest.


You will?

Seriously?

We haven't met.

I am honored.

And so are you...
 
2011-12-23 08:33:10 PM  

Indubitably: You will?

Seriously?

We haven't met.

I am honored.

And so are you...



Yep.

Yep.

Nope.

Indeed I am honored! If you would have me.
 
2011-12-23 08:35:21 PM  

FarkinDaffy: RIP and Merry Christmas dad. Korean war Vet. Passed away this last Sept.


I feel for you, my dad is still alive and it hurts to see him fading, my father still does military funerals, he is 83
 
Ehh
2011-12-23 08:41:12 PM  
My father was a Korean War vet. He didn't like to talk about it. One time, he just said he was horrified by what the Turks did to the civilian guy they caught stealing their gasoline. Another time, how cold it was. He hated war, and he hated the politicians who sent young people to Viet Nam. If you think M.A.S.H. = Korean War, start here (new window).

R.I.P., Dad
 
2011-12-23 08:42:52 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: My step father was shot in the same leg, in Vietnam, and Korea. Same leg, three different times. He kept on going back. He was bayoneted by a NVA regular in the right side of his chest, which deflated his lung. He just wouldn't let himself be captured or lay down and die. When the NVA regular bayoneted him, he grabbed the end of the guys AK, and held onto it long eough (the bayonet was still in him), to pull his machete and almost decapitate the guy.

He ended up losing his leg after the war, too much pain, and the Dr told him. "Jerry, there are no more operations i can do to try to fix it, only thing left is, I cut it off, or you just live with the pain." Jerry said "cut the sonofabiatch off"

He had enough medals to sink the titanic if it was afloat, and he never, ever, strutted. They were locked up in a bank safety deposit box. He talked only about his life in the Army Rangers (or special forces, i can't remember) when asked. He would never bring it up himself. I asked him once, of course, how many men he killed. He looked at me..and said without hesitation, "39". I asked him how he could remember that number so exactly, and he told me, "These were hand to hand kills Son, i snuck up behind them and grabbed them around the mouth..tipped their head back while bending over, and cut their neck from ear to ear" He paused, then said "So when you ask me how many, yes.i can remember exactly." I then asked him, does it bother him still, like nightmares and such. And he said "Robert, i can see every one of their faces, even to this day. I used to have nightmares where i died, and they were just standing there, just waiting for me, not wanting to kill me, but kind of welcoming me into their midst. I used to have nightmares about their faces, but then, i had to make friends with them. The first one i killed, i snuck up behind him, and grabbed him, and cut his neck. I still remember the sounds he made as i lowered him gently to the ground. The gurgling, the slowing struggles of his body to stay alive and breathe. My head wasn't on right for the next few weeks, until the Sgt. called me into the office and slugged me in the face. He told me as I lay on the floor, "you had better pull your head out of your ass or you're gonna get yourself killed, or get me killed, and i ain't gonna let that happen, so unfark yourself, or I'll stomp your ass up and down the street." So, he told me it was easier then, to just grab someone, and cut them lethally. You have to harden yourself son, or you are gonna die, or worse..get one of your men killed.

Jerry passed away a few years ago, and i find myself shamefully wishing that he was my real father, instead of my step father. He didn't want a military funeral, and didn't want a big deal made. He was a quiet polite man, who gave so much, and even in his death, didn't ask for anything more than a hole in the ground, and a few family members to remember he existed.

Thank you Jerry, would that there were more men like you in the world, it would be a better place. i will miss your laugh, and your huge heart, even after all you had been through, and your government shiatting on you after they were done using you, you still had the capacity to love, and give my mother a good life, and make her happy. I will always remember you, and this Christmas, i raise a glass of stiff burbon to your memory. I hope you woke up in whatever heaven you believed in, and are running through the fields with both legs chasing scantily clad girls. I loved you Pop.

/Salute'
//Sorry farkers, for the book.


Great story, sounds like a real bad ass. Thanks for sharing.
 
2011-12-23 08:44:12 PM  

URAPNIS: Indubitably: You will?

Seriously?

We haven't met.

I am honored.

And so are you...


Yep.

Yep.

Nope.

Indeed I am honored! If you would have me.


*salute*

*bow*

;)
 
2011-12-23 08:48:37 PM  
Patton was right.

We should have kept pushing East after defeating Germany and taken out the Soviets.

But think of the fun we would have missed?
 
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