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2011-12-23 03:27:09 PM
I DNRTA because it was just
 
2011-12-23 04:43:43 PM
That and fibromyalgia - they are diagnoses for overweight old women with depression.
 
2011-12-23 04:46:50 PM
moops: That and fibromyalgia - they are diagnoses for overweight old women with depression.

Huh, the three women I know with fibromyalgia are all slim, fit, and fairly active.

The two people I know with chronic fatigue are the same.

Weird.
 
2011-12-23 04:47:52 PM
Chronic fatigue? As in, always tired? Log off if fark and reddit and go to bed earlier.
 
2011-12-23 04:48:02 PM
Really? Judy Miskowitz is pretty much a woo-nut on the par with Andrew Wakefield for falsified, inaccurate, and sensationalized research.

Why does anything involving her dissmissal, arrest, and retraction of her XMRV = CFS paper not suprise me?
 
2011-12-23 04:48:08 PM
I thought chronic fatigue was just being stoned...
 
2011-12-23 04:50:14 PM
Feeling tired and have an irritable bowel? You might have colitis. So head on down to your local medical center and get that camera shoved up your butt hole to confirm or deny.

/And you get a cookie and juice too afterwards.
//Please fart before release from clinic.
 
2011-12-23 04:50:17 PM
I wish they'd rename it to womanitis,
 
2011-12-23 04:51:28 PM
I thought CFS and fibromyalgia were "we don't have specialists in the area--or you can't afford them" diagnosis by Doctors who want to move on to the next billing cycle/patient.
 
2011-12-23 04:56:00 PM
xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus

virus.
 
2011-12-23 05:00:12 PM
moops: That and fibromyalgia - they are diagnoses for overweight old women with depression.

Diseases with constituencies, but no pathology.

/ex claims to have both
 
2011-12-23 05:00:13 PM
My legs! They're just so restless.
 
2011-12-23 05:02:00 PM
I got diagnosed with both CFS and FM before they figured out "narcolepsy".

Funny how 1 of those 3 actually could be tested for (okay, I got the pressure-point fibromyalgia thing but in retrospect I doubt it was performed properly) yet they went for the no-test-but-here's-a-script ones first.

/memories

BronyMedic: Really? Judy Miskowitz is pretty much a woo-nut on the par with Andrew Wakefield for falsified, inaccurate, and sensationalized research.

Why does anything involving her dissmissal, arrest, and retraction of her XMRV = CFS paper not suprise me?


The Ars Technica article on that was pretty damn good.
 
2011-12-23 05:02:59 PM
Doesn't Chronic Obama Syndrome look tired?
 
2011-12-23 05:05:35 PM
I was diagnosed with CFS and Fibromyalgia almost 20 years ago as a teenager. Almost a year ago they took out my barely functioning gallbladder (no stones), and it all went away. I suspect there's probably some such underlying cause for everyone who has been diagnosed (yes, there may be some fakers, but I've been on the accused side of the fence... please give people the benefit of the doubt). I think I had every test except that back then; at that time I was considered too young to have gallbladder problems, but they now know even kids can have issues.
 
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2011-12-23 05:10:26 PM
If my chronic fatigue gets any worse I'll need a ventilator.

©
 
2011-12-23 05:11:30 PM
Anyone else tired of hearing about chronic fatigue syndrome?

Sick and tired...
 
2011-12-23 05:13:16 PM
"Fibromyalgia-affecting approximately five percent of the American population, mostly women-is characterized primarily by widespread pain, tender spots, decreased pain threshold, sleep disturbance, fatigue, and psychological distress."

That's called DEPRESSION - it's just the people with depression don't want to hear it, they want an explanation with which they can rationalize their problems away.

Why do I know this? I've been there. I finally acknowledged the depression. The pain's been gone for a while, and the depression gets less severe with each passing day.
 
2011-12-23 05:13:31 PM
I thought this was called "morbid obesity"
 
2011-12-23 05:14:39 PM
I thought I CFS and fibromylogia but since I know now that it's a "woman's" disease I have to find what else is wrong with me other than panic and anxiety disorder.
 
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2011-12-23 05:18:45 PM
I now know of a couple of people (one in my extended family) who were diagnosed with fibromyalgia years ago, but have recently had that diagnosis revised to Lyme disease.

It's kinda cool they now have an actual physiological cause to point to, but untreated Lyme disease is kind of a bastard.
 
2011-12-23 05:19:40 PM
moops: That and fibromyalgia - they are diagnoses for overweight old women with depression.

Also two of the basket of diseases that makes Gulf War Syndrome. Don't get me started about how insulting I find this.
 
2011-12-23 05:20:10 PM
Does this mean fibromyagia is an "unremarkable" disease?

vitamind3blog.com
 
2011-12-23 05:20:33 PM
I love these threads. CFS, ADHD and climate change always bring together fat conservative neck beards and the stereotypical Starbucks hipster-douches in a circle jerk of ignorance. It's like watching Archie Bunker and Cooper fellate each other.
 
2011-12-23 05:22:06 PM
moops: "Fibromyalgia-affecting approximately five percent of the American population, mostly women-is characterized primarily by widespread pain, tender spots, decreased pain threshold, sleep disturbance, fatigue, and psychological distress."

That's called DEPRESSION - it's just the people with depression don't want to hear it, they want an explanation with which they can rationalize their problems away.

Why do I know this? I've been there. I finally acknowledged the depression. The pain's been gone for a while, and the depression gets less severe with each passing day.


You know what? IT ISN'T ALWAYS.

/yeah, also misdiagnosed with depression instead of narcolepsy. Misdiagnoses are fun.
//yeah, I was situationally depressed because I kept passing the f--k out, but that misdiagnosis and subsequent treatment f--ked me up more than the narcolepsy had by that point
 
2011-12-23 05:24:06 PM
That should have been "Sheldon Cooper". That was such an abhorrent image my subconscious vetoed typing it out fully.
 
2011-12-23 05:24:35 PM
BigLuca: CFS, ADHD and climate change always bring together fat conservative neck beards and the stereotypical Starbucks hipster-douches in a circle jerk of ignorance.

Actually, fat people who consume buckets of sugar should know more about chronic fatigue syndrome than your average doctor.
 
2011-12-23 05:25:03 PM
moops: That's called DEPRESSION - it's just the people with depression don't want to hear it, they want an explanation with which they can rationalize their problems away.


No shiat. My ex claims to have both CFS and FM, but drinks like a frat boy. Doesn't stop McMedicine from throwing expensive drugs at her based on nothing more than a 5 minute conversation. Mix Cymbalta with a 1500ml/night Pinot Grigio habit and enjoy the show.

All I hear doctors biatch about is malpractice insurance, yet all I see them doing (even in my case) is pushing dope and procedures based on scant information.
 
2011-12-23 05:31:20 PM
No diseases exist unless I personally suffer from them. I may know people that have some other diseases, and I'll acknowledge their existence because I'm nice. Anything else is just fat people not wanting to work hard in order to help my 401K. These folks should all be jailed.
 
2011-12-23 05:34:24 PM
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 2003, and even then was told it's a default diagnosis for when they can't figure out why someone is in pain. I got a new doctor last year at the VA, who ran a blood test, and found out I have very low vitamin D. Very low vitamin D can cause widespread muscular/skeletal pain.

50,000 IU of vitamin D once a month, and my pain and fatigue are negligible.

Fibromyalgia, IMHO, isn't a disease, it's a cluster of symptoms caused by underlying conditions (trauma, illness, depression, etc).
 
2011-12-23 05:35:08 PM
r1niceboy: No diseases exist unless I personally suffer from them.

Diseases don't exist without an actual PATHOLOGY.
 
2011-12-23 05:40:26 PM
There are radio ads here in Philly for something called "Shift Work Disorder". I shiat you not. You apparently have it if you work long and different hours.
 
2011-12-23 05:46:39 PM
What, people are fatigued of me? But I'm scintillating and hilarious!
 
2011-12-23 05:47:17 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: All I hear doctors biatch about is malpractice insurance, yet all I see them doing (even in my case) is pushing dope and procedures based on scant information.

If they told you the real way to getting well (eating real food including animal products, omitting grains and other processed "foods" created in a lab) then they'd get fewer kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies.
 
2011-12-23 05:49:17 PM
altinos: Captain_Ballbeard: All I hear doctors biatch about is malpractice insurance, yet all I see them doing (even in my case) is pushing dope and procedures based on scant information.

If they told you the real way to getting well (eating real food including animal products, omitting grains and other processed "foods" created in a lab) then they'd get fewer kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies.


THIS SO MUCH.

/Went "paleo" 10 months ago, no more sleep apnea for me
//CSB
 
2011-12-23 05:55:15 PM
i shaved all over. now suffering from bear ball syndrome.
 
2011-12-23 06:08:59 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: r1niceboy: No diseases exist unless I personally suffer from them.

Diseases don't exist without an actual PATHOLOGY.


Always treat these "diseases" with leeches; at the very least it will better balance the humors. No disease has an pathology without discovery of an etiology, idiot.

I have tinnitus. It's all in my head (quite literally), but the only thing no pathology means is that there's no treatment. My hearing is slowly going. It sucks.

I hope you get Gay Cancer and die.

I don't really hope that, sadly; I'm not a bastard.
 
2011-12-23 06:09:42 PM
I am suffering from Lonely Penis Syndrome.
 
2011-12-23 06:11:01 PM
One of my neighbors committed suicide by running her car in her garage.

She was exhausted....
 
2011-12-23 06:19:09 PM
As someone whose slim, active, hard working mother suffers from both chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia as well as degenerative arthritis, no, I'm not at all.
 
2011-12-23 06:19:22 PM
As someone who just woke up from a two hour nap, I'm getting a kick out of the article and this thread.
/don't really have CFS
//Anytime I see a patient with CFS or Fibromyalgia, I know they'll be a handful to deal with.
 
2011-12-23 06:21:28 PM
My sister was diagnosed with FM and put on FM medication, heavy pain medications, and sleep medications or and also a depression medication because the FM caused depression. Of course it has NOTHING TO DO with the fact she gain 150 pounds in about a year, sits on her ass all day long, has a shiatty diet, and is naturally depressed because she hates her life but refuses therapy.

Nope, has to be FM because her pain is just totally unexplainable.

/I had an achy back and joints twenty pounds ago too
//Feel much better these days
///Exercise daily at least 40 minutes
 
2011-12-23 06:29:03 PM
FTA: The 2009 report suggested that xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV) was the probable culprit behind chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), which causes crippling fatigue, aching joints, headaches and other symptoms in about 1 percent of the world's population of first-world depressed women with psychological issues.

Fixed
 
2011-12-23 06:29:48 PM
too tired to post....
 
2011-12-23 06:34:36 PM
patuljka: I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 2003, and even then was told it's a default diagnosis for when they can't figure out why someone is in pain. I got a new doctor last year at the VA, who ran a blood test, and found out I have very low vitamin D. Very low vitamin D can cause widespread muscular/skeletal pain.

50,000 IU of vitamin D once a month, and my pain and fatigue are negligible.

Fibromyalgia, IMHO, isn't a disease, it's a cluster of symptoms caused by underlying conditions (trauma, illness, depression, etc).


So the solution was essentially the drug version of "go the fark outside once in a while and get some sunshine"?
 
2011-12-23 06:38:31 PM
Get Lost: Feeling tired and have an irritable bowel? You might have colitis. So head on down to your local medical center and get that camera shoved up your butt hole to confirm or deny.

/And you get a cookie and juice too afterwards.
//Please fart before release from clinic.


Medical center? No, no, colon cleanse boutique to eliminate the toxins!

/My toxins all come from the liquor shelf.
 
2011-12-23 06:42:08 PM
Captain_ballbeard: r1niceboy: No diseases exist unless I personally suffer from them.

Diseases don't exist without an actual PATHOLOGY.


Hey Captain_Neckbeard, just because the pathology hasn't been found doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Oh, but I forgot, some coont diagnosed herself with it, you undiagnosed her, then she left you. Therefore everyone who has that disease is also a lying coont. QED. Excellent reasoning you have.
 
2011-12-23 06:45:51 PM
Every time I hear someone has one of these types of "diseases" or "syndroms", the first thing I think is, "slacker"


/and I'm usually right.

/chronic fatigue is BS.
 
2011-12-23 06:57:14 PM
moops: That and fibromyalgia - they are diagnoses for overweight old women with depression.

This is easily discerned by checking whether someone tries to hide it and get their work done, or won't stop telling people about it every time they get within earshot.

Shocktopus: patuljka: I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 2003, and even then was told it's a default diagnosis for when they can't figure out why someone is in pain. I got a new doctor last year at the VA, who ran a blood test, and found out I have very low vitamin D. Very low vitamin D can cause widespread muscular/skeletal pain.

50,000 IU of vitamin D once a month, and my pain and fatigue are negligible.

Fibromyalgia, IMHO, isn't a disease, it's a cluster of symptoms caused by underlying conditions (trauma, illness, depression, etc).

So the solution was essentially the drug version of "go the fark outside once in a while and get some sunshine"?


You would normally get that way in the first place by having a malfunctioning UV->VitD system, so it's unlikely that would help. I mean, a normally functioning body can get 50,000 UI from 45 minutes in the sun, it's difficult not to get that in a month unless you work graveyard.
 
2011-12-23 07:12:19 PM
Propain_az: Every time I hear someone has one of these types of "diseases" or "syndroms", the first thing I think is, "slacker"


/and I'm usually right.

/chronic fatigue is BS.


First thing I think of is "desert storm vet", since they were the first ones diagnosed with it.

/fark you very much and the slashie you rode in on
//don't mention it. Never mind, you didn't
 
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