I can't wait for the insane media flurry over Goldman's death as well. Just like when Dennis Ritchie died.

RIP Oscar Goldman

serial_crusher: Well done subby

Well done, subby.

/see, I copied it but changed it slightly

Repeat.

Saborlas: Ironic. Apple copied Xerox's GUI concept.

+1

Mister Peejay: serial_crusher: Well done subby

Well done, subby.

/see, I copied it but changed it slightly

ditto.

ChubbyTiger: Mister Peejay: serial_crusher: Well done subby

Well done, subby.

/see, I copied it but changed it slightly

ditto.

ditto.

Saborlas: Ironic. Apple copied Xerox's GUI concept.

/yeah, I know Microsoft did it too
//doesn't change the fact that Apple did it

It would be closer to say they paid for the concept. Xerox received stock in Apple for the technology. And it was rather basic concepts. Xerox hadn't developed the concept of overlapping windows, scrollbars that didn't suck, and numerous other inventions to make it - ya know - usable.

/and many of the Xerox researchers eventually went to work for Apple as Xerox didn't have a clue what to do with it

DarwiOdrade: Saborlas: Ironic. Apple copied Xerox's GUI concept.

/yeah, I know Microsoft did it too
//doesn't change the fact that Apple did it

I'm pretty sure Microsoft was/is copying Apple, but whatever.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever.

bravian: Saborlas: Ironic. Apple copied Xerox's GUI concept.

/yeah, I know Microsoft did it too
//doesn't change the fact that Apple did it

It would be closer to say they paid for the concept. Xerox received stock in Apple for the technology. And it was rather basic concepts. Xerox hadn't developed the concept of overlapping windows, scrollbars that didn't suck, and numerous other inventions to make it - ya know - usable.

/and many of the Xerox researchers eventually went to work for Apple as Xerox didn't have a clue what to do with it

To be fair, it took Apple a long time to develop scrollbars that didn't suck

Oh wow.

This beautiful headline has already produced a fantastic thread.

Cthulu bless you, subby.

First, Well done, Subby. That works on many levels.

Second, people who think that Apple copied the Alto interface that they were shown by Xerox (in return for being allowed to purchase Apple stock before the IPO) have never even seen the Alto interface.

It had a command line, people. It never even showed graphics until you were inside a program that supported graphics. Even then you still frequently used keyboard commands to drive the software when you were inside it.



Here, download the Alto manual and look it over yourself.

Apple's interface was definitely inspired by the Alto's advancements over what had existed before (SRI's NLS was the first machine with a mouse and menus and such) however it was anything but a direct copy.