Apparently Bose State won a bowl game last night against some team with a losing record.

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jake_lex: The reason we don't have a real playoff in college football isn't to protect the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl or any of those bowls. it's to protect piece of crap bowls like this one.

With a playoff, Arizona State's season ends at 6-6, and the alumni biatch about missing the playoffs. In the current system, they go to something called the "MAACO Bowl" and the AD gets to charter a private plane to take some alumni down to get shiatfaced drunk and sign over huge checks to the program. The fact that they're 6-6 and suck ass gets lost in the haze of it. After all, they made the MAACO Bowl, biatches!

This week had one of the best: "The San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl."

Locally-sponsored bowls? WE GOT 'EM.

What state?

Proof the BCS is farked when the #8 ranked team cannot get an invite to one of the top 4 bowl games.

/It's not Boise State, it's Bozo U

GAT_00: Is that headline really necessary?

Very.

GAT_00: Is that headline really necessary?

was this bowl game really necessary?

rufus-t-firefly: This week had one of the best: "The San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl."

Locally-sponsored bowls? WE GOT 'EM.

Too bad the Galleryfurniture.com Bowl doesn't exist anymore.

in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

LSU beat two of those teams in one year, not 4. That is why, while Boise isn't a bad team they aren't championship-game caliber. They did deserve a better bowl game opponent than ASU, though.

If Boise had a big traveling fanbase that would have put asses in seats they would have gotten a bigger bowl. Just look at all of the years that Notre Dame went to the Cotton Bowl in the 90's despite finishing the season at .500. The bowl committees don't only look at TV audiences, because if they did Boise would get invited to larger bowls because people would tune in to watch them, they also look at what teams will fill the stadiums. And Boise isn't going to have a lot of people traveling to watch them. These bowls don't want people to tune in and watch their bowls and see a stadium that isn't filled to capacity because if that happens they are afraid that their bowl will lose prestige.

A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

They average about 1 quality win per year. Not very impressive.

Smeggy Smurf: Proof the BCS is farked when the #8 ranked team cannot get an invite to one of the top 4 bowl games.

/It's not Boise State, it's Bozo U

Ooh, I went to the UofI and learned some lingo... Congratulations for graduating at the top of the class. First place in the Special Olympics.

jake_lex: The reason we don't have a real playoff in college football isn't to protect the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl or any of those bowls. it's to protect piece of crap bowls like this one.

With a playoff, Arizona State's season ends at 6-6, and the alumni biatch about missing the playoffs. In the current system, they go to something called the "MAACO Bowl" and the AD gets to charter a private plane to take some alumni down to get shiatfaced drunk and sign over huge checks to the program. The fact that they're 6-6 and suck ass gets lost in the haze of it. After all, they made the MAACO Bowl, biatches!

You were right until you said the part about huge checks to the program. Most schools lose money on minor bowl games by the time the conference takes their split, the school pays the bowl for unsold allocated tickets, and the travel costs for those chartered planes, 5star hotels and private parties.

AdmirableSnackbar: A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

LSU beat two of those teams in one year, not 4. That is why, while Boise isn't a bad team they aren't championship-game caliber. They did deserve a better bowl game opponent than ASU, though.

I will agree with this.

GAT_00: Is that headline really necessary?

The #7 team in the nation had to play a 6-6 ASU team. Yes, it's necessary.

MtnByker: A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

They average about 1 quality win per year. Not very impressive.

Michigan can't say that

Quiefenburger: The Dennis Erickson Era At Arizona State, Encapsulated In One Play
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The Todd Graham era isn't going to be much better for you I am afraid.

ongbok: If Boise had a big traveling fanbase that would have put asses in seats they would have gotten a bigger bowl. Just look at all of the years that Notre Dame went to the Cotton Bowl in the 90's despite finishing the season at .500. The bowl committees don't only look at TV audiences, because if they did Boise would get invited to larger bowls because people would tune in to watch them, they also look at what teams will fill the stadiums. And Boise isn't going to have a lot of people traveling to watch them. These bowls don't want people to tune in and watch their bowls and see a stadium that isn't filled to capacity because if that happens they are afraid that their bowl will lose prestige.

i have a strong feeling that boise vs michigan in the sugar bowl would have been both a hot ticket and produced ratings. hell, michigan can sellout the sugar bowl without boise, and they have been down, and any reason to leave michigan in dec/jan is a good one. the reason the bcs didn't want them is that the bcs wants the money to stay in house.

of course missing that 18mil payout was actually probably good for boise. they might have even quietly lobbied to be skipped. if i recall correctly their buyout to leave the mountain west it is based on a flat fee plus previous year's bowl money. so missing the bcs dropped the buyout from ~20mil to 5-7mil. now that's a savings.

This game you don't get to harp on Boise St. over. They didn't ask to be insulted with an assignment against Arizona St.

I guess Kellen Moore will just have to start beating people in the NFL now. Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

Hillbilly Jim: Quiefenburger: The Dennis Erickson Era At Arizona State, Encapsulated In One Play
Link (new window)

The Todd Graham era isn't going to be much better for you I am afraid.

If Graham stays longer than a year.

Gosling:
I guess Kellen Moore will just have to start beating people in the NFL now. Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

It was hilarious to watch What's-His-Hair Jr. on ESPN try and say that Moore is a poor man's Dalton and try and go through as many mental hoops as possible to try and make the argument sound credible.

But, hey, he's made millions fleecing NFL front offices, so why not pay attention now?

AdmirableSnackbar: A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

LSU beat two of those teams in one year, not 4. That is why, while Boise isn't a bad team they aren't championship-game caliber. They did deserve a better bowl game opponent than ASU, though.

LSU also ducked Boise St., as did Nebraska.

Poison: Hillbilly Jim: Quiefenburger: The Dennis Erickson Era At Arizona State, Encapsulated In One Play
Link (new window)

The Todd Graham era isn't going to be much better for you I am afraid.

If Graham stays longer than a year.

They'll be lucky if he is only there a year.

jake_lex: it's to protect piece of crap bowls like this one.

You could still have a ton of bowl games and have a play off.

SharkTrager: AdmirableSnackbar: A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

LSU beat two of those teams in one year, not 4. That is why, while Boise isn't a bad team they aren't championship-game caliber. They did deserve a better bowl game opponent than ASU, though.

LSU also ducked Boise St., as did Nebraska.

SharkTrager: AdmirableSnackbar: A Fark Handle: in 4 seasons kellen moore has also only lost 3 games by a total of 5 points and in those losses the boise state kickers have missed 5 field goals. that's some tough luck.

/and of course there are the wins over virginia tech, georiga, oregon, etc
//but as we know boise state sucks

LSU beat two of those teams in one year, not 4. That is why, while Boise isn't a bad team they aren't championship-game caliber. They did deserve a better bowl game opponent than ASU, though.

LSU also ducked Boise St., as did Nebraska.

LSU "ducked" Boise State? In order to play a better Oregon team? That's not ducking, that's passing. And there's still the fact that those teams don't want to play Boise State on BSU's terms. I've said it before and I'll say it again, BSU's motto should be "anyone, anywhere, anytime" instead of "anyone on the terms we want to set"

Gosling: Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

On the flip side, what makes you think he should be drafted high? He's the same type as Ty Detmer (barely 6'0 and skinny), with the same apparent skill set (accurate, "smart", below-average NFL arm strength).

I don't think Moore sucks or anything, but I also don't see where or how he's a first day draft selection.

ongbok: If Boise had a big traveling fanbase that would have put asses in seats they would have gotten a bigger bowl. Just look at all of the years that Notre Dame went to the Cotton Bowl in the 90's despite finishing the season at .500. The bowl committees don't only look at TV audiences, because if they did Boise would get invited to larger bowls because people would tune in to watch them, they also look at what teams will fill the stadiums. And Boise isn't going to have a lot of people traveling to watch them. These bowls don't want people to tune in and watch their bowls and see a stadium that isn't filled to capacity because if that happens they are afraid that their bowl will lose prestige.

They do travel. Link (new window). The fans just buy their tickets from places other than BSU because they do a shiat job of selling them, so the school ends up losing money.

Killer Cars: Gosling: Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

On the flip side, what makes you think he should be drafted high? He's the same type as Ty Detmer (barely 6'0 and skinny), with the same apparent skill set (accurate, "smart", below-average NFL arm strength).

I don't think Moore sucks or anything, but I also don't see where or how he's a first day draft selection.

Yeah, I don't think he's an early pick. Any team with a stable, veteran quarterback would be wise to take a 5th round flier on him, IMHO.

Also, that headline should start a new award for "Most Butt-hurt Headline of the Year"

regindyn: Killer Cars: Gosling: Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

On the flip side, what makes you think he should be drafted high? He's the same type as Ty Detmer (barely 6'0 and skinny), with the same apparent skill set (accurate, "smart", below-average NFL arm strength).

I don't think Moore sucks or anything, but I also don't see where or how he's a first day draft selection.

Yeah, I don't think he's an early pick. Any team with a stable, veteran quarterback would be wise to take a 5th round flier on him, IMHO.

He'll be a second day pick, eventually outperform his draft position, but won't be a superstar QB, but he'll be serviceable.

iron_city_ap: regindyn: Killer Cars: Gosling: Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

On the flip side, what makes you think he should be drafted high? He's the same type as Ty Detmer (barely 6'0 and skinny), with the same apparent skill set (accurate, "smart", below-average NFL arm strength).

I don't think Moore sucks or anything, but I also don't see where or how he's a first day draft selection.

Yeah, I don't think he's an early pick. Any team with a stable, veteran quarterback would be wise to take a 5th round flier on him, IMHO.

He'll be a second day pick, eventually outperform his draft position, but won't be a superstar QB, but he'll be serviceable.

Flutie 2.0!

I wonder if there is any reason why they wouldn't get invited to a premier bowl.

I don't have a dog in the fight, but damn Boise sure puts on a great show.

wow just wow: Smeggy Smurf: Proof the BCS is farked when the #8 ranked team cannot get an invite to one of the top 4 bowl games.

/It's not Boise State, it's Bozo U

Ooh, I went to the UofI and learned some lingo... Congratulations for graduating at the top of the class. First place in the Special Olympics.

My ex-wife graduated top of her CNA class from BSU. If that doesn't scream low academic standards then nothing will.

I'm sorry, but a bullshiat bowl like this is further evidence to me of why we need a playoff system for the national championship. I'm not sure that Boise deserved a BCS bowl berth, but they deserved better competition than what they received.

/Not a Boise fan, just a fan of quality college football.

Why do we have a whole thread about one community college beating another community college? Did something spectacular happen last night?

jake_lex: The reason we don't have a real playoff in college football isn't to protect the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl or any of those bowls. it's to protect piece of crap bowls like this one.

With a playoff, Arizona State's season ends at 6-6, and the alumni biatch about missing the playoffs. In the current system, they go to something called the "MAACO Bowl" and the AD gets to charter a private plane to take some alumni down to get shiatfaced drunk and sign over huge checks to the program. The fact that they're 6-6 and suck ass gets lost in the haze of it. After all, they made the MAACO Bowl, biatches!

They can still have their piece of shiat bowls with, say, an 8 team playoff of conference champions.

Smeggy Smurf: Proof the BCS is farked when the #8 ranked team cannot get an invite to one of the top 4 bowl games.

/It's not Boise State, it's Bozo U

Eh, it's nothing compared to the 3rd place team in the SEC making the BCS Championship Game.

Killer Cars: Gosling: Or is nobody going to draft him because they don't know if he's any good because OMG Boise St. sucks?

On the flip side, what makes you think he should be drafted high? He's the same type as Ty DetmerTom Brady (barely 6'0 and skinny), with the same apparent skill set (accurate, "smart", below-average NFL arm strength).

I don't think Moore sucks or anything, but I also don't see where or how he's a first day draft selection.

A Fark Handle: ongbok: If Boise had a big traveling fanbase that would have put asses in seats they would have gotten a bigger bowl. Just look at all of the years that Notre Dame went to the Cotton Bowl in the 90's despite finishing the season at .500. The bowl committees don't only look at TV audiences, because if they did Boise would get invited to larger bowls because people would tune in to watch them, they also look at what teams will fill the stadiums. And Boise isn't going to have a lot of people traveling to watch them. These bowls don't want people to tune in and watch their bowls and see a stadium that isn't filled to capacity because if that happens they are afraid that their bowl will lose prestige.

i have a strong feeling that boise vs michigan in the sugar bowl would have been both a hot ticket and produced ratings. hell, michigan can sellout the sugar bowl without boise, and they have been down, and any reason to leave michigan in dec/jan is a good one. the reason the bcs didn't want them is that the bcs wants the money to stay in house.

of course missing that 18mil payout was actually probably good for boise. they might have even quietly lobbied to be skipped. if i recall correctly their buyout to leave the mountain west it is based on a flat fee plus previous year's bowl money. so missing the bcs dropped the buyout from ~20mil to 5-7mil. now that's a savings.

The BCS doesn't choose who goes to the Sugar Bowl. The Sugar Bowl decides, based on criteria given to it by the BCS. They had the option of Boise State or Virginia Tech and chose to go with Virginia Tech.