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They are truly withholding food from a person who is awake, alert, and can eat and swallow. ~ Dr. William Hammesfahr

To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

nekom: The weird things that the human brain do never cease to amaze me.

Agreed.

I'll just leave this here:

FTA: "I tell everyone, if they want to call it a modern-day miracle, this is a miracle," said Regan, 59, and a Catholic. "I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"

// They weren't really atheists.

"Someone get me a tooth brush"

Drew got cheated out of a new liver.

I remember the Terri Schaivo debacle. I also remember getting a relatively lengthly ban for saying "just kill the biatch".

Bevets: [suewidemark.com image 444x325]

They are truly withholding food from a person who is awake, alert, and can eat and swallow. ~ Dr. William Hammesfahr

To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

For days Schmid didn't seem to be responding, but what puzzled his doctor was that he did not see fatal injuries on the MRI scan. So he decided to keep Schmid on life support longer.

"There was plenty wrong -- he had a hemorrhage, an aneurysm and a stroke from the part of the aneurysm," Spetzler said. "But he didn't have a blood clot in the most vital part of his brain, which we know he can't recover from. And he didn't have a massive stroke that would predict no chance of a useful existence."

So while the family was given a realistic picture of Schmid's poor chances for survival, Spetzler ordered one more MRI to see if the critical areas of the brain had turned dark, indicating brain death.

"If not, we would hang on and keep him on support," he said. "But I didn't want to give the family false hope."

Schmid's mother said no one "specifically" asked if her son would be a donor, but they "subtly talk to you about quality of life."

"At some point, I knew we had to make some sort of decision, and I kept praying," said Regan.

The MRI came back with encouraging news during the day and by evening Schmid "inexplicably" followed the doctors' commands, holding up two fingers. ~Susan Donaldson James

In other words, Schiavo was brain dead. This kid wasn't. MRIs confirmed.

If God wanted this man alive, it means he wanted others to die from bad organs for christmas.

Just in time fot catscanurday!!!

Humean_Nature: vpb: Of course during the autopsy, it turned out that 70% or her cortex was gone so we know now that those quote were BS.

Get out of here with your facts facty mcfacterson. If you love your facts so much, why don't you marry them?

/nyaaah

If we allow him to marry the facts, then people will want to marry their dogs! And their can openers!

/Hey there, can opener, how YOU doin?

Sybarite: Just lie there, sir. It won't take a minute.

I'll put pennies on your eyes
And it will gooooo away
See?

Peter von Nostrand: litespeed74: "Someone get me a tooth brush"

Alright... what movie is this from? Well, I'm pretty sure it's from a movie..

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's from The Human Centipede

Christian and atheist wharrrgarble is imminent. One sec while I get prepared.



K, go!


/hot like fresh buttered popcorn.

I thought Bevets was retired. You folks DO realize that he is a bot and an alt used by the moderators right?

Bevets: They are truly withholding food from a person who is awake, alert, and can eat and swallow. ~ Dr. William Hammesfahr

To enter the room of Terri Schiavo is nothing like entering the room of a patient who is comatose or brain-dead or in some neurological sense no longer there. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

As I looked at Terri, and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself whether, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold life-sustaining nutrition and hydration from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others. ~ Dr. William Polk Cheshire Jr.

Interesting since it is a medical fact that she was a brainless vegetable.
You know what facts are, right ? here's another example: the existence of cumulative changes in the relative frequencies of variant genetic alleles in a gene pool which occurs over the course of generations, AKA Evolution.

This is a common mistake. Everyone assumes that people from Arizona are brain dead until proved otherwise.

So while the family was given a realistic picture of Schmid's poor chances for survival, Spetzler ordered one more MRI to see if the critical areas of the brain had turned dark, indicating brain death.
"If not, we would hang on and keep him on support," he said. "But I didn't want to give the family false hope."

If I'm reading this right, they weren't about to "turn him into spare parts" until and unless "the critical areas of the brain had turned dark, indicating brain death".

hailin: FTFA
"I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"

Then they weren't true atheists. It isn't a divine miracle. It is the power of the human body and how clueless we are regarding it.

THANK YOU...so much this. That quote annoyed me upon reading it.

Do they seriously just... not even test to see if there's brain function these days with anything beyond 'well, we poked him and nothing happened'?

Reason I ask: my dad in law recently passed, but several months before he did, he'd gone into a coma. They got him to a hospital, where the doctors immediately started trying to convince my mom in law he was braindead and they should be pulling the plug. She asked if there was any brain function - they said no. She asked how they knew - they said they'd tried to stick him with a needle and he didn't respond. She asked if they would be doing any sort of scans and they insisted it wasn't necessary - he was gone.

She was completely torn apart, freaking out and calling family and trying to decide what to do when he woke up... literally less than an hour after they insisted he was a vegetable. He was talking and walking and eating like nothing had ever happened shortly after. He said he even vaguely remembered hearing everyone talking and just being unable to respond and being so frustrated he finally just broke through the fog through shear force of will.

He slipped away again some months later and we kept him around for weeks and weeks, not trusting what the doctors said about him being gone. The doctors had given up on him though, and to this day I fear he may well have been completely aware until mom in law finally made the decision to let him go, and he was just slipping farther because the doctors wouldn't do anything beyond the most basic stuff to keep him breathing. :/

And people wonder why so many don't trust the medical field...

"I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"

Buuuuuuullshiat.

In other news:
Man who was in coma and about to save 5 peoples with his organs, regains consciousness. Police then arrested the man for attempted murder of 5 peoples. Charges may be upgraded to murder if one of the five peoples dies.

/Embalming: The only way to ensure the person you are burying is dead.......
//Other than ripping out their organs by the Repo man.

This is so frustrating to the people teat were waiting for the spare parts. Perhaps others will drink and drive this Holiday season and make their organs available.

/why isn't there a cocktail named the "Organ Donor"?

Dammit

Oh well, I guess I'll have to go hobo hunting to get that new kidney

hailin: @rdu_voyager: Ah you beat me to it! I should refresh before posting.

Yes. Yes, you should, dammit! I'll forgive you this time, but don't go makin' a habit of it.



// Meh, it was only a couple of minutes. No big deal. Both just stating the obvious.

PlasticMoby: "I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"

Buuuuuuullshiat.


Indeed. Everyone knows atheists don't have any friends.

Teen Wolf Blitzer: lites

Ha...not really a "movie". From Seinfeld..."The other side of darkeness"

PlasticMoby: "I have friends who are atheists who have called me and said, 'I am going back to church.'"

Buuuuuuullshiat.

But think of the coffee and cookies in the church hall after services? Won't someone think of the snacks!?!

wambu: This is so frustrating to the people teat were waiting for the spare parts. Perhaps others will drink and drive this Holiday season and make their organs available.

/why isn't there a cocktail named the "Organ Donor"?

Apparently there is:

Organ Donor (new window)

vpb: Of course during the autopsy, it turned out that 70% or her cortex was gone so we know now that those quote were BS.

Which is still more brain matter than that held by the average contributor to the YouTube comments section.

I donated my organ to my wife last night. She was very appreciative and gave it back to me in betters shape that when she got it. It was so angry! But she soon took care of that.

rdu_voyager: // They weren't really atheists.
hailin: Then they weren't true atheists.

Or she was lying, either about them being atheists or about them rediscovering faith.

Dinjiin: rdu_voyager: // They weren't really atheists.
hailin: Then they weren't true atheists.

Or she was lying, either about them being atheists or about them rediscovering faith.

Agreed. Most likely they were agnostic who don't understand probability.

Terri Schiavo's Brain Cavity: vpb: Of course during the autopsy, it turned out that 70% or her cortex was gone so we know now that those quote were BS.

Which is still more brain matter than that held by the average contributor to the YouTube comments section.