Be fair, who DOESN'T like homemade jam?

Mmm, apple butter and homemade strawberry jam...

As if we needed any more proof that the TSA is worthless.

You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

After experiencing the horrors of Space Jam I understand their precaution.

Wellon Dowd: You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

Mid-September, 2001.

Knows a little something something about being in peril. Great peril actually.

"Please remove your shoes so we may check for Toejam."

Poorboytech2000: "Please remove your shoes so we may check for Toejam."

Oh, sure, leave Earl to fend for himself...

carrion_luggage: Let me tell you, when the TSA goes looking for jam, they look everywhere. I still can't sit down.

Damn you for the visual.

\ew

FTA: "...if this is potentially 'bomb material,' why do they just discard it in a trash can off to the side?"

While she should have known better, this is an interesting question.

Wellon Dowd: You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

I get it. We all get it. The TSA's rules are stupid. Now can we stop having stories about the TSA? For fark's sake, does TSA take over Fark every year like this? Every other thread the last couple of days has been about airport security it seems like.

Don't be a moron and hold up the line.

Liquids are against the rules.

If you don't like the rules, take the Amtrak.

OccamsWhiskers: You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

Bingo. It's all theater.

Non-issue, she's a dumbass for trying to get it on board in her carryon. The rules while stupid have been in place for long enough all flyers should know them. And yes it is a GEL it is a semi-liquid which conforms to the container it is in.

My real interest in this is why did they just not say, No glass? I mean honestly they take away my nail file, but but i can have a nice chunk o'glass to get all slashy slashy with?

Wellon Dowd: You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

I have made a few trips flying but seen people carry water bottles or cups of coffee/beverage and they didn't get busted so what gives with this no liquid crap?

Zagloba: OccamsWhiskers: You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

Bingo. It's all theater.

The idea is to prevent unapproved liquids on the plane, not liquids in general.

Had to fly twice in the last couple weeks on military orders. Damn glad the whole "military bypass TSA" thing has taken effect at alot of airports... was a biatch to take off the boots, belt, and tags on top of everything else the TSA makes people do.

/size 14 feet makes for a lot of laces

Arctic Phoenix: I get it. We all get it. The TSA's rules are stupid. Now can we stop having stories about the TSA? For fark's sake, does TSA take over Fark every year like this? Every other thread the last couple of days has been about airport security it seems like.

No, you don't get it
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PizzaJedi81: Wellon Dowd: You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

Mid-September, 2001.

Actually, it was Mid-August, 2006

When TSA encounters potentially explosive jam and toothpaste they just throw it out, rather than safely disposing of it as a potential explosive. They have explained that deadly jam bombs generally require a blend of multiple fruits, and the individual jams aren't deadly - which is why they can safely throw the individual components in the trash.

Apparently the TSA originally tried donating such things to homeless shelters, but they wouldn't accept this since they were items flagged as potentially explosive. :)

LandOfChocolate: PizzaJedi81: Wellon Dowd: You can't bring liquid or semi-liquid material on board an airliner? When did that happen?

Mid-September, 2001.

Actually, it was Mid-August, 2006

Huh...dunno why I remembered it earlier than that. I do remember taking a transcontinental flight in mid-2003 that had rules I thought were the same, but may have been merely similar.

We need to keep bringing up the fact they throw the fluids and gels they confiscate into a single giant batch. If there was any real concern some of those things could explode would they be treated in such a manner?

This will force them to deal with every item as a potential explosive and will add so much weight to the bureaucracy it will collapse.

/one of the things anyway

Walker: Zagloba: OccamsWhiskers: You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

Bingo. It's all theater.

You can also get a big steak knife from any restaurant in the "secure zone". Box cutters too. How do you think all the shops and restaurant open their boxes?

You can actually buy products that the TSA will not allow through the checkpoints inside the 'secure zone'. That nail file they make you toss? Yep, you can buy it in the little shop. The nail cutters? Yep, little shop. Scissors? Little shop.

It's really hard to take any security theater the TSA puts on seriously when you can go and buy those items twenty feet away. It's ridiculous.

/made me toss my embroidery scissors because they were 'weapons'
//bought a sharper, nicer pair inside the airport
/just glad I've never had to toss knitting needles

Rich Cream: We need to keep bringing up the fact they throw the fluids and gels they confiscate into a single giant batch. If there was any real concern some of those things could explode would they be treated in such a manner?

This will force them to deal with every item as a potential explosive and will add so much weight to the bureaucracy it will collapse.

/one of the things anyway


Or they'll have to admit mixing materials to make potent explosives isn't all that simple to do.

Iron Felix: Don't be a moron and hold up the line.

Liquids are against the rules.

If you don't like the rules, take the Amtrak.

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We all know the TSA is worthless. Yet when I travel I know the rules and I follow them. I want to get from A to B without hassle or bullshiat. Why is this so difficult for people? It says no farking liquid or gel. So don't bring farking liquid or jell. If you bring liquid and they fark with you, don't farking complain.

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: You can actually buy products that the TSA will not allow through the checkpoints inside the 'secure zone'. That nail file they make you toss? Yep, you can buy it in the little shop. The nail cutters? Yep, little shop. Scissors? Little shop.

Scissors and files are allowed. See Prohibited Items

Ten jam jars with 2.5 oz each is OK.

Also not every jam maker believes her/his jam is a liquid.

LandOfChocolate: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: You can actually buy products that the TSA will not allow through the checkpoints inside the 'secure zone'. That nail file they make you toss? Yep, you can buy it in the little shop. The nail cutters? Yep, little shop. Scissors? Little shop.

Scissors and files are allowed. See Prohibited Items

I had my scissors confiscated twice within the last year (both times the same, tiny little embroidery scissors that the TSA website said were fine). TSA workers are allowed to make 'decisions' at the airport, even if the list says they're fine. And TSA workers are assholes.

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: I had my scissors confiscated twice within the last year (both times the same, tiny little embroidery scissors that the TSA website said were fine). TSA workers are allowed to make 'decisions' at the airport, even if the list says they're fine. And TSA workers are assholes.

What did the supervisor say when you complained?

9/11 was an "inside job," so to speak. Why do we even have the TSA?

Shanksville mayor saying there were no bodies and no plane:

Link (new window)

You did notice the Twin Towers falling looked liked a controlled demolition, right? That's because it was.

There are those who are true victims and there are those who intentionally cause an issue and claim to be a victim.

Meh, I'm more worried that the TSA farkers are going to get cancer from those back scatter machines and then the tax payers will be on the hook for their treatment, not to mention the millions they will win in lawsuits. You know something is very, very wrong when they won't let those farkers have a dosimeter nor are those machines regulated, by well anybody.

"What? Oh, that. That's just my grandmother's to-die-for nitroglycerine marmalade. Whoa, whoa! Careful with that! This stuff packs quite a punch."

Attention Citizens. Although you may no longer travel about your country freely you are free to travel safely.

_{/yeah right}

Walker: Zagloba: OccamsWhiskers: You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

Bingo. It's all theater.

You can also get a big steak knife from any restaurant in the "secure zone". Box cutters too. How do you think all the shops and restaurant open their boxes?

I just envisioned a great scam involving a requirement that vendors in the secure area have special packaging for goods entering which does not require box cutters...

Cajnik: I'm surprised she didn't take her whinefest to the Consumerist.

"Best Buy overcharged me 7 cents!"

Or "They gave me free food and I didn't ask for it!"

Some poor TSA goon is going to have a lot of fun with my checked baggage come Sunday... I'm flying out to visit a friend and I offered to repair her laptop and do some home improvement work, so my bag is going to be full of sharp hand tools, a full soldering kit including a tin of flux, a few zillion techno-gadgets and whatnot. I had to weigh it to make sure it came in under the limit.

Of course, my carryon is only going to have my laptop and phone and some spare clothes. That will undoubtedly be what causes me to be delayed.

Rich Cream: Arctic Phoenix: I get it. We all get it. The TSA's rules are stupid. Now can we stop having stories about the TSA? For fark's sake, does TSA take over Fark every year like this? Every other thread the last couple of days has been about airport security it seems like.

No, you don't get it
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Do too.

LandOfChocolate: Zagloba: OccamsWhiskers: You can, you just can't bring them through TSA checkpoints if they find it. Later, there are liquids all over the place.

Bingo. It's all theater.

The idea is to prevent unapproved liquids on the plane, not liquids in general.

No, I think the evidence shows that the idea is to reinforce the claim that passenger aircraft are under sufficient threat to justify spending billions per year and suspending constitutional rights. It's a tough job, since there's pretty scarce direct evidence of such threats. Let alone that the way the money is spent now and the suspension of rights are the best or even an effective way to deal with that.

TSA policies suggest that while someone saw a movie once where liquids were used to create a bomb, no one actually thinks there's a remote chance that anyone bringing liquid through a checkpoint is any threat at all. They don't handle the liquid with the slightest concern. They don't make a record of who brought the liquid. If it is a threat, the imaginary attacker just tries again.