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2011-12-22 08:07:12 PM
If you don't like it, shop somewhere else*!

*yeah, we own them too
 
2011-12-22 08:36:11 PM
Thank you for advancing the "MegaCorp" meme.
 
2011-12-22 08:37:04 PM
MegaCorp loves you.
 
2011-12-22 09:06:52 PM
Nestles bought Ovaltine and changed the Ovaltine formula so that now it tastes like Nestles.

I wrote and complained.

They sent me a coupon for a free jar... of the new Ovaltine.
 
2011-12-22 09:15:22 PM
DarthBrooks: Nestles bought Ovaltine and changed the Ovaltine formula so that now it tastes like Nestles.

I wrote and complained.

They sent me a coupon for a free jar... of the new Ovaltine.


Not too different then when Wheaties went less flavor/malt.

Want deeply generic? Vote MegaCorp.
 
2011-12-22 09:25:31 PM
His name was Robert Paulson.
 
2011-12-22 10:50:17 PM
pro tip: For better results, always press "0" even if it is not presented as an option.
 
2011-12-22 11:03:25 PM
FTFA: In the age of pepper-sprayed Black Friday shoppers, stores clearly no longer care what their customers think

When did they ever care?
 
2011-12-23 12:02:03 AM
sno man: pro tip: For better results, always press "0" even if it is not presented as an option.

Yeah, honestly... I've dealt with every major insurance firm. Slamming down 0 for a while will get you a person. However, how you handle that person? Totally up to you, dude.
 
2011-12-23 12:19:14 AM
Maybe corporations are making it harder to complain because there are a lot more customers out there who feel they should get something for nothing. The customer is not always right. At least these days they aren't . Shame that it also punishes those with legit complaints. This guy sounds like the former...for example, griping because Starbucks ran out of an additive for their eggnog drink . Get over it. Walk down the street to the other Starbucks and get your drink, or better yet, come back the next day.

/hated my last year working retail
 
2011-12-23 12:32:39 AM
I WANT MY WALDORF SALAD.

/the customer is far from always right, these days.
 
2011-12-23 12:53:59 AM
CayceP: I WANT MY WALDORF SALAD.

I'm sorry. We're fresh out of waldorf.
 
2011-12-23 01:42:02 AM
Ed Finnerty: CayceP: I WANT MY WALDORF SALAD.

I'm sorry. We're fresh out of waldorf.


But we can get you a side of farty owls.
 
2011-12-23 01:42:52 AM
It used to be that taking care of your customers was the most important thing in business. Be nice to go back to that.
 
2011-12-23 02:27:33 AM
Semi-related note: I'm not a huge fan of Domino's Pizza, and don't order from them much. They're kind of meh, but there isn't much choice around here and it's something easy for me to get if I'm at work and can't really go anywhere/forgot to bring something. Used their website recently to order a pizza and a couple of 20oz sodas for us. Everything was fine except that I got 12oz cans.

I didn't really care much, except that it wasn't what I ordered and I paid too much for the cans. I didn't really want to biatch out the delivery girl, because it wasn't her fault. So I left a little note in the 'feedback' area of their website.

I got a call from the manager within 5 minutes with an apology and a reasonable explanation, and an offer to have more sodas or gift certificates brought out to us. I didn't really need 'em, and the food was.. again.. meh, but I did like the quick response.
 
2011-12-23 03:53:57 AM
Have you by any chance ever tried a Ritz salad?
 
2011-12-23 04:12:16 AM
He sounds kinda douchey.
 
2011-12-23 04:15:45 AM
Customers nowadays are a bunch of entitled assholes who repeat that "customer is always right" mantra like its part of the US Constitution.

I'm glad to see retailers telling them to get bent.
 
2011-12-23 04:19:34 AM
I thought I was going to be reading examples of current companies' customer service. Instead I get to listen to several paragraphs of his boasting about how cool he is in writing complaints and how much better he was as a child groing up than his friends. All of this was followed by a chaser of not so veiled swipes at the 1%ers.

I dont care if this is what you talk about just dont be misleading about it in your headline. A better headline would have been: "Here's an article about why Im a better 99%er than you by boasting about my past and swiping at the 1%".
 
2011-12-23 04:22:43 AM
Here's a question: "Why does every opinion these days have to be so farking tied to politics?"
 
2011-12-23 04:24:21 AM
That author really really really likes to hear himself talk. Like, holy crap.
 
2011-12-23 04:25:21 AM
coco ebert: He sounds kinda douchey.

More than kinda.

1nsanilicious: Here's a question: "Why does every opinion these days have to be so farking tied to politics?"

Fo' real.
 
2011-12-23 05:19:31 AM
NewportBarGuy: sno man: pro tip: For better results, always press "0" even if it is not presented as an option.

Yeah, honestly... I've dealt with every major insurance firm. Slamming down 0 for a while will get you a person. However, how you handle that person? Totally up to you, dude.


They've been onto that trick for years at a number of places. It simply says "Unrecognized option" or something like that.
 
2011-12-23 05:20:40 AM
Man: I want to complain.

Complainer: You want to complain! Look at these shoes. I've only had them three weeks and the heels are worn right through.

Man: No, I want to complain about...

Complainer: If you complain nothing happens, you might as well not bother.

Man: Oh!

Complainer: Oh my back hurts, it's not a very fine day and I'm sick and tired of this office.
 
2011-12-23 05:25:13 AM
There is nothing I hate more than a whiner.
This guy sounds like a dick.
 
2011-12-23 05:41:31 AM
TsarTom: Have you by any chance ever tried a Ritz salad?

Ed Finnerty: I'm sorry. We're fresh out of waldorf.

I internet heart you both right now.
 
2011-12-23 06:02:17 AM
Relatively Obscure: Semi-related note: I'm not a huge fan of Domino's Pizza, and don't order from them much. They're kind of meh, but there isn't much choice around here and it's something easy for me to get if I'm at work and can't really go anywhere/forgot to bring something. Used their website recently to order a pizza and a couple of 20oz sodas for us. Everything was fine except that I got 12oz cans.

I didn't really care much, except that it wasn't what I ordered and I paid too much for the cans. I didn't really want to biatch out the delivery girl, because it wasn't her fault. So I left a little note in the 'feedback' area of their website.

I got a call from the manager within 5 minutes with an apology and a reasonable explanation, and an offer to have more sodas or gift certificates brought out to us. I didn't really need 'em, and the food was.. again.. meh, but I did like the quick response.


Dominos has suffered years of word of mouth bad pizza and bad customer service. They recently launched a new version of their pizza and is focusing on getting back customers they lost, so they are in a unique position to actually pretend to care because corporate is slamming them to fix things. Consumer choice worked in this instance, but it seems to fail more and more today. Companies don't care because even if their products suck and their customer service is atrocious people still continue to buy their shiat.
 
2011-12-23 06:22:13 AM
Your blog sucks.
 
2011-12-23 06:28:33 AM
The one legitimate time I had to complain, my concerns were positively responded to in a timely fashion. Basically, the hotel room for chain '6' I stayed in was crap. I checked out the next morning, literally walked around the corner, and get a VERY nice room (relatively speaking) for only $27 more at chain 'Q'.

Anyway, had a link sent to my email about a week later asking for customer feedback. So I took them to task. Wasn't a douche about it, though...I outlined the differences in the rooms, the amenities that were not included, even the missing bottles of shampoo I noted.

Within a few days I had email contact with their customer service rep and was ultimately able to get a refund for the night I stayed. And I won't be staying with them for a long time, if ever.

/the article writer sounds like a douche
 
2011-12-23 06:40:40 AM
Happy Hours: NewportBarGuy: sno man: pro tip: For better results, always press "0" even if it is not presented as an option.

Yeah, honestly... I've dealt with every major insurance firm. Slamming down 0 for a while will get you a person. However, how you handle that person? Totally up to you, dude.

They've been onto that trick for years at a number of places. It simply says "Unrecognized option" or something like that.


Get Human (new window) It doesn't always work, but it's a pretty good website. As much as I detest "Press 1 for this, Press 2 for that," it's the voice response systems that get my blood pressure up VERY fast. You don't know how or whether the system will react to/recognize "person," "representative," "operator," or "human".

"I didn't understand."
"Of course you didn't, you're a computer."
"I didn't understand."

I've taking to mumbling unintelligibly, which sometimes gets the system to hand me off to a person.
 
2011-12-23 07:37:25 AM
Unobtanium: Happy Hours: NewportBarGuy: sno man: pro tip: For better results, always press "0" even if it is not presented as an option.

Yeah, honestly... I've dealt with every major insurance firm. Slamming down 0 for a while will get you a person. However, how you handle that person? Totally up to you, dude.

They've been onto that trick for years at a number of places. It simply says "Unrecognized option" or something like that.

Get Human (new window) It doesn't always work, but it's a pretty good website. As much as I detest "Press 1 for this, Press 2 for that," it's the voice response systems that get my blood pressure up VERY fast. You don't know how or whether the system will react to/recognize "person," "representative," "operator," or "human".

"I didn't understand."
"Of course you didn't, you're a computer."
"I didn't understand."

I've taking to mumbling unintelligibly, which sometimes gets the system to hand me off to a person.


I've used the mumbling technique occasionally.

On the flip side if I'm calling to make a payment I've found some places actually connect you too quickly to an agent. Either I screwed up entering my account # or entered it faster than they can interpret it and blammo, I'm talking to a real person. What's worse is some of these places like to charge extra for making a payment with an agent.

Anyway, thanks for the link.
 
2011-12-23 08:36:26 AM
Samsung has some of the worst customer service reps I've dealt with. I had to send my cellphone in for repair, and talking to these people on the phone was like pulling teeth. One CSR was so bad I asked for his supervisor. He spent two minutes refusing to get him.

Even though Samsung makes good product I don't think I'll buy anymore of their stuff due to their customer service people. I never had this problem dealing with Asus or Acer.
 
2011-12-23 08:57:03 AM
People often complain in an attempt to gain something from the situation. People took advantage of 'customer is always right' and now we all suffer.

I had a neighbor who always took advantage of new restaurants to get free meals by complaining.

Worked in a restaurant where the manager told a customer: This is the 3rd time you've been in and the 3rd time you've complained. You obviously don't like the food here, so please do not come back.
 
2011-12-23 08:59:34 AM
Unobtanium: Get Human (new window) It doesn't always work, but it's a pretty good website. As much as I detest "Press 1 for this, Press 2 for that," it's the voice response systems that get my blood pressure up VERY fast. You don't know how or whether the system will react to/recognize "person," "representative," "operator," or "human".

I don't know why companies think it's good to have you speaking your account number outloud to a computer.. which never can understand the different letters or numbers.

But just from a security point of view, it's a lot safer to enter the numbers on your keypad. I wonder why the change. I assume it cost money to 'upgrade' the systems to the voice-response ones.

In general I don't mind the menus, unless there's no escape for the obligitory time what you're calling for isn't an option.
 
2011-12-23 09:09:06 AM
I think my worst customer service experience was Hampton/Hilton. For our honeymoon the first night was in San Juan, so I booked a room at the Hampton Inn since it was a good price and secured. For an extra $100 you could upgrade to the romance package which on their website included roses, chocolates, a bottle of champagne, and two souvenir glasses on your arrival. I thought it sounded fun, so I splurged a bit. After a ten hour day of flying/airports" we got to San Juan and there was nothing in our room at all. I called and asked about it to which the hotel people said they would remedy it right away. The knocked on our room and kicked us out for ten minutes while they spread rose petals, gave us three chocolates, the champagne, and two flutes. We were both exhausted and just wanted to sleep, but thanks them anyway. I go to open the champagne and see it has like beer bottle top which I hadn't seen before. Then I realized it was sparkling apple cider and not champagne, but we had no bottle opener anyway, so I wandered back down to ask for champagne. They said they weren't an alcoholic hotel (even though there was a bar in the pool area) and didn't have champagne. At that point I was too tired to argue, so I took the cider upstairs and we drank it. I washed the glasses and we took them with us on the rest of our trip.

When I got home I noticed they charged me for the champagne glasses! I finally had enough and complained about the whole thing to corporate. A representative from that Hampton called, apologized, and assured me they would change their website. For my trouble they were sending me a voucher for a one-night stay at any Hilton-owned property which I thought was nice, but they wouldn't refund me for paying $35 for the champagne flutes. I ended up never getting the voucher. I waited three months and then decided to call back (since we were going to Florida and needed to stay a night in a hotel, so I wanted my voucher). Apparently they had undergone "new management" and that manager refused to send me a voucher since it didn't happen while he was managing the hotel. WTF? I complained to corporate again who told me I had to work it out with the manager of the hotel.

I see they did change their website to sparkling cider instead of champagne, so at least another couple won't be scammed by the "romance package". I will never stay at any Hilton-affiliated hotel again though.
 
2011-12-23 09:09:47 AM
I filed a BBB complaint last week. I don't expect much to be done about it, although if any of us had done what the company in my situation has done, we would be arrested for theft.

/ avoid selling used phones to celltradein.com
// no, I didn't check reviews first
 
2011-12-23 09:14:13 AM
skinink: Samsung has some of the worst customer service reps I've dealt with. I had to send my cellphone in for repair, and talking to these people on the phone was like pulling teeth. One CSR was so bad I asked for his supervisor. He spent two minutes refusing to get him.

Even though Samsung makes good product I don't think I'll buy anymore of their stuff due to their customer service people. I never had this problem dealing with Asus or Acer.


I had similar a experience with Samsung. I bought an mp3 player and it didn't work when plugged in to the USB port in my cars. It would play for 30 seconds and reboot. I sent it in and after 3 months of telling me it was being repaired they decided to tell me they never received it. I had to prove that they did receive it. Then it still took a week of trying to get them to admit they lost it and talking to the head guy to get a replacement.
When I got the replacement it had the same problem. I assume it's the product shortcoming, not a problem.
Though to be fair I have recently had a good experience with them dealing with a poorly designed dishwasher part.
 
2011-12-23 09:16:05 AM
phoenixdan: Maybe corporations are making it harder to complain because there are a lot more customers out there who feel they should get something for nothing.

b-b-b-b-but I've got 6 coupons for one item! Why won't you let me use all 6 of them?
 
2011-12-23 09:19:40 AM
I had a problem with Panera making my sandwich wrong multiple times, and it kept happening when I was grabbing lunch to go before I had to go to a meeting somewhere (so I didn't have time to go back and get it fixed).

I put in a complaint on their website. Panera sent me a gift card that covered a little more than the cost of the sandwich (sandwich was $6 and the gift card was for $8) and sent it with a handwritten note. I thought this handwritten note was really nice.


On the other hand, my husband had a problem with Chipotle and got a different response. He went in to get a burrito, but he says that the person who served him gave him half the normal amount of everything so that his burrito was half the size of normal (given how big their burritos are, this is a big deal). He said the person serving him gave the person behind him the normal amount, so it sounded like he was being singled out.

Given my good experience with Panera, I suggested he file a complaint on Chipotle's website. Chipotle's response was a non-apolgy along the lines of "We're sorry you feel that way."

The way he was shrugged off makes him not want to eat here anymore (at least not at this location). The way Panera treated me made me a much happier customer and I still eat there a lot.
 
2011-12-23 09:25:12 AM
Aquadyne: Customers nowadays are a bunch of entitled assholes who repeat that "customer is always right" mantra like its part of the US Constitution.

No, silly. They wouldn't expect it to get respected if it was part of that. Don't you know that only terrorists want their rights?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-23 09:27:15 AM
Typing into a web form is easier than writing a letter. More people do it. Each complaint is taken that much less seriously as a result.
 
2011-12-23 09:31:36 AM
Roukzeptea23: I had a problem with Panera making my sandwich wrong multiple times, and it kept happening when I was grabbing lunch to go before I had to go to a meeting somewhere (so I didn't have time to go back and get it fixed).

I put in a complaint on their website. Panera sent me a gift card that covered a little more than the cost of the sandwich (sandwich was $6 and the gift card was for $8) and sent it with a handwritten note. I thought this handwritten note was really nice.


On the other hand, my husband had a problem with Chipotle and got a different response. He went in to get a burrito, but he says that the person who served him gave him half the normal amount of everything so that his burrito was half the size of normal (given how big their burritos are, this is a big deal). He said the person serving him gave the person behind him the normal amount, so it sounded like he was being singled out.

Given my good experience with Panera, I suggested he file a complaint on Chipotle's website. Chipotle's response was a non-apolgy along the lines of "We're sorry you feel that way."

The way he was shrugged off makes him not want to eat here anymore (at least not at this location). The way Panera treated me made me a much happier customer and I still eat there a lot.


Food places are always better with just offering a free sandwich or burrito. Their food margin is so low and the amount of people that actually complain over those that just suck it up is also low. I never understood when restaurants throw a fit for obviously getting an order wrong. My husband and I use to eat breakfast every Friday morning at Cracker Barrel since we both have the day off and enjoyed their food. We did this for almost a year, enough that we were regulars and knew all the servers that worked. We got a new lady and put in our usual order (the wholesome sampler for me, my husband got eggs over medium with toast and pancakes). When his eggs came out they were runny and hardly cooked, obviously eggs over easy. I called the waitress over to get the right order since he wasn't going to eat his meal with gross runny eggs (I don't blame him). She proceeded to argue with me how she was a professional chef (yet somehow is now waitresses at CB) and knows what eggs over medium are, that they were eggs over medium, and it isn't her fault he ordered the wrong thing. I got so pissed off I called over the manager-on-duty (he was newish too) who just shrugged and said he had no idea what egg over medium look like, but if the waitress knew then she was right. We left right then leaving our food, paid the tab without leaving a tip, and have never been back since. I didn't however complain to corporate however since I thought it should have been handled then and there.

We found a little mom-and-pop shop to eat breakfast at now. The food is awesome, cheaper, and the staff is very friendly with little turnover. Better all the way around.
 
2011-12-23 09:31:42 AM
my new favorite way to complain is through my congressman. Considering most of my problems seem to be with financial institutions, its about the only way to get them to pay attention.

Mostly I try to only send complaints if there's a concrete way for the company to solve them.
 
2011-12-23 09:36:56 AM
Since this is in the business section, I'll give my story. At a different point in my life, I was an internal auditor for a fortune 150 company. We had a 6 month job in Indianapolis. I negotiated with several hotel chains for 1000 room nights for my team but had the stipulation that any time I need a room for my boss, I could get one for my boss when he came to town at the negotiated rate. Hyatt won the job.

Fast forward 6 months, over 1000 nights paid for and my boss comes to town. Call the manager to secure room and he informs me they are sold out. (Rolling Stones in town across the street in football stadium).

I hung up phone and called Corporate VP of Marketing for Hyatt in Chicago. "Hi my name is Buffalo77 and I work for Fortune 150 company, I just spent 1000 room nights in Indy Hyatt and it was a great Hotel and here is the deal I made for room any time I wanted. I just read an article in WSJ where you said you were focusing your marketing on your corporate customers, people such as my company. Your manager is not agreeing to stick to agreement we negotiated."

5 minutes later, manager calls and says " Hello Mr. Buffalo77, how may I help you".

My boss had penthouse suite for $69 and I became known as the guy who could get things done.

Take your complaints to the top if the events are truly egregious.
 
2011-12-23 09:41:48 AM
AnubisMan: Dominos has suffered years of word of mouth bad pizza and bad customer service. They recently launched a new version of their pizza and is focusing on getting back customers they lost, so they are in a unique position to actually pretend to care because corporate is slamming them to fix things. Consumer choice worked in this instance, but it seems to fail more and more today. Companies don't care because even if their products suck and their customer service is atrocious people still continue to buy their shiat.

I recently switched from AT&T to Verizon. I told AT&T in advance that I was switching and I received nothing but annoying phone calls and e-mails that utterly failed to understand why I was switching or remotely attempt to fix the issues I was having (for example frequent errors in the billing). A simple "we fark'd up" would of gone a long way in keeping me with AT&T. But they refused.

The cutover didn't go all smoothly due to a glitch in Verizon's system. But when I called Verizon - I got a real person who explained to me exactly what was going on and when it would be fixed. The next day I received a call to validate that the service was operating as I expected.

/real customer service still exists
//its rare but still exists
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-23 09:43:38 AM
Katie98_KT

Years ago, I got the cable TV company to respond by writing to the state agency that regulates telephone and cable.
 
2011-12-23 09:45:00 AM
Stockholder value > your service
 
2011-12-23 09:50:13 AM
MugzyBrown: Unobtanium: Get Human (new window) It doesn't always work, but it's a pretty good website. As much as I detest "Press 1 for this, Press 2 for that," it's the voice response systems that get my blood pressure up VERY fast. You don't know how or whether the system will react to/recognize "person," "representative," "operator," or "human".

I don't know why companies think it's good to have you speaking your account number outloud to a computer.. which never can understand the different letters or numbers.

But just from a security point of view, it's a lot safer to enter the numbers on your keypad. I wonder why the change. I assume it cost money to 'upgrade' the systems to the voice-response ones.

In general I don't mind the menus, unless there's no escape for the obligitory time what you're calling for isn't an option.


I work at a company which provides speech recognition systems. I'd never design a system that asks you to speak your account details out loud. Why would you want to do that in a public area? Speech rec is good at a lot of things but it doesn't improve upon pushing buttons for numeric strings like account numbers.
 
2011-12-23 09:50:54 AM
Buffalo77: Since this is in the business section, I'll give my story. At a different point in my life, I was an internal auditor for a fortune 150 company. We had a 6 month job in Indianapolis. I negotiated with several hotel chains for 1000 room nights for my team but had the stipulation that any time I need a room for my boss, I could get one for my boss when he came to town at the negotiated rate. Hyatt won the job.

Fast forward 6 months, over 1000 nights paid for and my boss comes to town. Call the manager to secure room and he informs me they are sold out. (Rolling Stones in town across the street in football stadium).

I hung up phone and called Corporate VP of Marketing for Hyatt in Chicago. "Hi my name is Buffalo77 and I work for Fortune 150 company, I just spent 1000 room nights in Indy Hyatt and it was a great Hotel and here is the deal I made for room any time I wanted. I just read an article in WSJ where you said you were focusing your marketing on your corporate customers, people such as my company. Your manager is not agreeing to stick to agreement we negotiated."

5 minutes later, manager calls and says " Hello Mr. Buffalo77, how may I help you".

My boss had penthouse suite for $69 and I became known as the guy who could get things done.

Take your complaints to the top if the events are truly egregious.


I think the real trick here is that your company (which is also probably a well-known and wealthy company) was spending a large amount of money at the hotel. This plan wouldn't work for smaller groups of people or companies, or shorter stays.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-23 09:51:25 AM
Impasse: Stockholder value > your service

I repeat my recommendation of the book Fixing the Game, which discusses this point at length. The author gives examples of companies that did well in the long term by maximizing customer satisfaction; this part, however, is anecdotal rather than statistically significant.
 
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