"Technically?"

Others had their property split in half by the fence, after the government seized portions of their land. At least 200 people in Cameron County had some of their land seized for the fence.

I'm sure every Republican candidate would decry this violation of peoples' fundamental property rights / civil liberties.

I wonder how many more Americans the "fence ALL the border!" retards want to displace.

Your Republican controlled tax dollars, hard at work.

Sock Ruh Tease: I wonder how many more Americans the "fence ALL the border!" retards want to displace.

Well, they aren't fencing the border now are they?

bhcompy: Sock Ruh Tease: I wonder how many more Americans the "fence ALL the border!" retards want to displace.

Well, they aren't fencing the border now are they?

I don't know, a fence around Texas' border might not be such a bad idea...

We should just have abrogated the treaty regarding the flood plain.

Mexico is the enemy, and is actively trying to destroy our way of life.

The plans DHS has for the keypads is farking horrifying. There is literally no way this implementation is a good idea.

FTA: " A few years later, she found 40 kilos of marijuana hidden in her bougainvilleas."

This is why we should legalize marijuana. She coulda made a lot of money off that (if she didn't smoke it).

Now way in farking hell would I live even within a 100 miles of Borderlands.

Maybe we can just move all the anti-immigrant Americans into one area and build a fence around them? You know... so they feel safe.

Before you d-bags start to dog on Texas: Laredo, Brownsville et al are more Mexican than Texan

redmid17: This is why we should legalize marijuana. She coulda made a lot of money off that (if she didn't smoke it).

88 pounds would take a while to smoke.

moothemagiccow: Before you d-bags start to dog on Texas: Laredo, Brownsville et al are more Mexican than Texan

So what are you trying to say, exactly?

Outside, the Christmas spirit is less visible, amid repeated warnings to KEEP OUT-though a "Merry Christmas!" sign hangs next to a warning to would-be trespassers that they're being filmed by a surveillance system. Written outside the front gate is the message: "Don't even think about parking here."

It's important to keep Christ in Christmas!

potterydove: We should just have abrogated the treaty regarding the flood plain.

Mexico is the enemy, and is actively trying to destroy our way of life.

Or we could just annex Chihuahua and Sonora and turn them into no-man's lands.

TheSopwithTurtle: "Technically?"

Well, if the story about the border agents lining up at the fence and just kinda watching a running gun battle take place is true, it is hard to say they are "in" the US if the guys charged with protecting the border aren't actually going to protect the border, but only a mile-offset fence - "We will collect your taxes, but forget getting any 'insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare' crap, cause our reach extends all the way to not-the-border". The US is making a de-facto border that doesn't include these people.

Fences are for cattle not people. It's a ridiculous undertaking.

Technically, we're in the United States


Some US Americans don't have maps, and like such as.

Sock Ruh Tease: I wonder how many more Americans the "fence ALL the border!" retards want to displace.

We need something to keep those filthy Canadians out. Something thick, tall and electrified. Dirty Canucks.

let me get this straight. they offered to buy her property. she refuse. they built the fence anyway. So technically the fence is hers and she can bulldoze it if she wants?

Ah. The border fence. I hope the Mexicans don't ever develop some form of ladder technology; that would make a $6.2m/mile fence look awfully silly.

moothemagiccow: Before you d-bags start to dog on Texas: Laredo, Brownsville et al are more Mexican than Texan

Ummmm no. Border towns are not "Mexican".

Stupid Texans have no idea what I mean...

Civil Discourse: Ah. The border fence. I hope the Mexicans don't ever develop some form of ladder technology; that would make a $6.2m/mile fence look awfully silly.



They'll just knock it down for lulz

Taylor says she had to work hard to get her citizenship when she married an American soldier and moved to Texas from England after World War II. She doesn't think illegal immigrants should get a chance to become citizens. "If anything comes really easy, it's not appreciated," she said.

In other words "I got mine"

I don't get part of that article. What is an illegal immigrant supposed to be?

potterydove: We should just have abrogated the treaty regarding the flood plain.

Mexico is the enemy, and is actively trying to destroy our way of life.

I don't know if you're trolling, and I don't consider the entire nation of Mexico to be an actual enemy...

But I do think we should have tried to renegotiate the treaty, and if that failed, said fark it and built the fence on the actual border anyways. American citizens are more important than the Mexican government's feelings.

We also have deals and treaties with Mexico that says they will do their part to secure the border, which they are surely not doing. So at this point, treaties are kind of irrelevant. The fence should be completed, but it should have been right on the border with all American property on the north side.

evil saltine: Taylor says she had to work hard to get her citizenship when she married an American soldier and moved to Texas from England after World War II. She doesn't think illegal immigrants should get a chance to become citizens. "If anything comes really easy, it's not appreciated," she said.

In other words "I got mine legally"

FTFY. And you're right she did. Good for her.

StoPPeRmobile:
It's important to keep Christ in Christmas!

Gotta keep the Christ in, and keep Jesus out... with a fence!

taurusowner: evil saltine: Taylor says she had to work hard to get her citizenship when she married an American soldier and moved to Texas from England after World War II. She doesn't think illegal immigrants should get a chance to become citizens. "If anything comes really easy, it's not appreciated," she said.

In other words "I got mine legally"

FTFY. And you're right she did. Good for her.

I'm sure prospective Mexican immigrants have just the same opportunity as she did.

Riche: That's just.... Farking insane!

By building a border fence where they did the feds pretty much destroyed the value of the property south of it. Why the FARK did they not buy out the homeowners at a fair price, as the constitution requires them to?

Ugh. Of course, if the government was acting rationally, there would be no drug war and far less "need" for the fence anyway.

The government only has to pay for the portion of the land that they actually take, not the whole property. A subsequent decline in the value of the land is also not considered, and if the taking would actually increase the value of the land, that is not considered either. The price is determined as the value of the land at its "best and highest use," at the moment the takings plan was announced.

It's a crappy thing they did here, but they didn't 'technically' have to buy the homeowners out in the entirety.

taurusowner: potterydove: We should just have abrogated the treaty regarding the flood plain.

Mexico is the enemy, and is actively trying to destroy our way of life.

I don't know if you're trolling, and I don't consider the entire nation of Mexico to be an actual enemy...

But I do think we should have tried to renegotiate the treaty, and if that failed, said fark it and built the fence on the actual border anyways. American citizens are more important than the Mexican government's feelings.

We also have deals and treaties with Mexico that says they will do their part to secure the border, which they are surely not doing. So at this point, treaties are kind of irrelevant. The fence should be completed, but it should have been right on the border with all American property on the north side.

The only thing missing from this post is a spitoon...

biohazard76: StoPPeRmobile:
It's important to keep Christ in Christmas!

Gotta keep the Christ in, and keep Jesus out... with a fence!


Winning!!

The All-Powerful Atheismo: I'm sure every Republican candidate would decry this violation of peoples' fundamental property rights / civil liberties.

That assumes that Republican libertarianism wins out over deep south Republican racism. It is a lot easier to embrace racism when it is somebody else's property being messed with.


/border fences do little more than stimulate the ladder industry

scottydoesntknow: redmid17: The plans DHS has for the keypads is farking horrifying. There is literally no way this implementation is a good idea.

FTA: " A few years later, she found 40 kilos of marijuana hidden in her bougainvilleas."

This is why we should legalize marijuana. She coulda made a lot of money off that (if she didn't smoke it).

40 kilos of mexican ditch weed? She'd spend more on gas trying to sell it.

shiat son. Just put it in some dessert foods. I hear that's what the consumers of shiatty marijuana are doing these days, despite it's illegal status in this country.

JohnnyC: redmid17: This is why we should legalize marijuana. She coulda made a lot of money off that (if she didn't smoke it).

88 pounds would take a while to smoke.

Yes it would. I'm sure Nate Newton would help out. It IS Texas.

The Great Wall of China didn't keep out the Mongols; Hadrian's Wall didn't keep out the picts; the Maginot Line didn't keep out the germans, and the Berlin Wall couldn't keep them in. I'm starting to sense a pattern here...

Civil Discourse: Riche: That's just.... Farking insane!

By building a border fence where they did the feds pretty much destroyed the value of the property south of it. Why the FARK did they not buy out the homeowners at a fair price, as the constitution requires them to?

Ugh. Of course, if the government was acting rationally, there would be no drug war and far less "need" for the fence anyway.

The government only has to pay for the portion of the land that they actually take, not the whole property. A subsequent decline in the value of the land is also not considered, and if the taking would actually increase the value of the land, that is not considered either. The price is determined as the value of the land at its "best and highest use," at the moment the takings plan was announced.

It's a crappy thing they did here, but they didn't 'technically' have to buy the homeowners out in the entirety.

Six point two million dollars.

Per mile.

For just Texas, that's $7,774,800,000.00 (7.7 billion dollars) to build. For the entire border, it's $11,780,000,000.00 (11.7 billion dollars).

Now factor in costs to maintain, repair and man it, because a fence without guards is useless. How much will this boondoggle cost the US taxpayer, and who thinks this is a proper investment of money? 7 billion dollars would be enough to cover what Texas claims it spends on health care for illegal immigrants for five years.

And in the end, it will not work. Fences, walls, guards and barriers simply don't pencil out in a cost-benefit analysis. They cost more to build and maintain than they save- and they sure as hell aren't a net positive for any economy.

evil saltine: Taylor says she had to work hard to get her citizenship when she married an American soldier and moved to Texas from England after World War II. She doesn't think illegal immigrants should get a chance to become citizens. "If anything comes really easy, it's not appreciated," she said.

In other words "I got mine"

In other words, she followed the rules and was rewarded.

The people who sneak in are breaking the rules, and should be punished. Giving them free plane rides home isn't really punishment.

Karac: The Great Wall of China didn't keep out the Mongols; Hadrian's Wall didn't keep out the picts; the Maginot Line didn't keep out the germans, and the Berlin Wall couldn't keep them in. I'm starting to sense a pattern here...

Karac: The Great Wall of China didn't keep out the Mongols; Hadrian's Wall didn't keep out the picts; the Maginot Line didn't keep out the germans, and the Berlin Wall couldn't keep them in. I'm starting to sense a pattern here...

No is saying we just throw up a fence and the problem will be solved. Of course some will still get through. But it will be fewer, and far more difficult for those who do. It's just part of a plan to keep illegals out, not the whole plan entirely. Just as police don't keep all crime from happening, and doctors will never cure all diseases, it doesn't mean they don't try. The wall will not solve the problem on it's own. But it will help, and we should try.

potterydove: evil saltine: Taylor says she had to work hard to get her citizenship when she married an American soldier and moved to Texas from England after World War II. She doesn't think illegal immigrants should get a chance to become citizens. "If anything comes really easy, it's not appreciated," she said.

In other words "I got mine"

In other words, she followed the rules and was rewarded.

Except back then, and for her, there was a much simpler rule set which much less hoops to jump through and didn't get women who married US citizens Us citizenship more or less automatically? Even that "short cut" is complicated, takes years and thousands of $$$ and is by no means assured either nowadays.

The people who sneak in are breaking the rules, and should be punished. Giving them free plane rides home isn't really punishment.

The river is the border right?

StoPPeRmobile: Civil Discourse: Riche: That's just.... Farking insane!

By building a border fence where they did the feds pretty much destroyed the value of the property south of it. Why the FARK did they not buy out the homeowners at a fair price, as the constitution requires them to?

Ugh. Of course, if the government was acting rationally, there would be no drug war and far less "need" for the fence anyway.

The government only has to pay for the portion of the land that they actually take, not the whole property. A subsequent decline in the value of the land is also not considered, and if the taking would actually increase the value of the land, that is not considered either. The price is determined as the value of the land at its "best and highest use," at the moment the takings plan was announced.

It's a crappy thing they did here, but they didn't 'technically' have to buy the homeowners out in the entirety.

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I have no idea what that is. Did a town take land to build a movie set on it?

Texans must be the demographic that doesn't have maps and such as.